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Re: One solution to Ubuntu dual-booting

#21 Post by mawebb88 »

benali72 wrote:About Ubuntu dual-booting and grub....

I just define the Ubuntu install partition as ext2. The pop-up panel Ubuntu gives you when defining partitions allows you to create the Ubuntu partition as any of several filesystems (eg: ext2, ext3, ext4, rfs).

If you pick ext2 for the Ubuntu partition, you have no problem using Puppy's grub to boot into it.

I did this for Ubuntu 8.04 and 9.04 and it worked fine. I haven't tried 9.10 yet but unless they changed the Ubuntu pop-up's it should work just like before.
I defined my Ubuntu part ion as ext3 so that all my pups would see it. Works now fine once the new GRUB2 was conquered. See other thread on this forum:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45961

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#22 Post by craftybear »

jason.b.c wrote:So my advise to anyone reading this thread ........ DO NOT DO THE ONLINE UPGRADE , Just download a new CD iso and upgrade via CD , your system would need to download all that info anyway....
Oops! Too late! Just did the online upgrade and it worked fine. Took about 4 hours on my DSL connection though.

I'm posting from KK now using Firefox 3.5.4 so I'm pretty sure everything is copa ...copa ... alright. :wink:
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#23 Post by Lobster »

I have been using Ubuntu for 4 days now
I installed virtualbox OSE
and can run Puppy full screen from CD
from Ubuntu
I can record Puppy screens using gtk_recordmydesktop, istanbulor or xvidcap
but the sound recording part is not working

I can record sound with Mhedit or Audacity
So next working on combining the two

My feeling if I was using my previous computer
Ubuntu would be too slow
BUT with a SATA drive Athlon 64 dual core and 1 Gig of memory (not the latest hardware - but very affordable) I am running Ubuntu very easily and speedily.

The biggest Ubuntu attraction is without a doubt
loading and unloading software.
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#24 Post by gposil »

Lobster, have you seen Dpup's own desktop recorder, you'll find 2 videos made with it on wiki...http://www.puppylinux.org/wikka/Dpup

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#25 Post by Lobster »

Looking good Guy :)

I noticed the wbar :)
as used in the much lamented SimplePup [sob]

I will try it out the first link worked OK
- second not so

Now to try out the latest dpup
pincers and fingers crossed :)
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#26 Post by gposil »

Lobster, you need to install this http://dpup.org/test/dpup482beta4-2.6.3 ... ec-1.0.pet and this http://dpup.org/test/dpup482beta4-2.6.3 ... pgrade.pet as Drec is part of beta5 which is not out yet....
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#27 Post by Lobster »

OK downloaded the beta 4
and ran the drec

Usual probs with my sound (visuals records very nicely - great potential for teaching there - must sort out sound)
but first - I am in the UK - time for a cup of tea :)

looking forward to beta 5
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#28 Post by Sylvander »

Downloaded and installed drec [to a conventional BoxPup 4.1.3], and it looks OK.
Haven't tried recording yet.
Is it possible to specify a different save folder for the video file?
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#29 Post by gposil »

Sylvander wrote:Downloaded and installed drec [to a conventional BoxPup 4.1.3], and it looks OK.
Haven't tried recording yet.
Is it possible to specify a different save folder for the video file?
It is hard coded in version 1.0 but you can change that if you want to, next version will offer choice of save folder...

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#30 Post by Sylvander »

1. "next version will offer choice of save folder"
Good! :D
Will that new version be announced in a new thread or what?
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#31 Post by gposil »

Yes, i'll announce it in new thread and it will be in the dpup482 testing thread...
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#32 Post by jason.b.c »

craftybear wrote:
jason.b.c wrote:So my advise to anyone reading this thread ........ DO NOT DO THE ONLINE UPGRADE , Just download a new CD iso and upgrade via CD , your system would need to download all that info anyway....
Oops! Too late! Just did the online upgrade and it worked fine. Took about 4 hours on my DSL connection though.

I'm posting from KK now using Firefox 3.5.4 so I'm pretty sure everything is copa ...copa ... alright. :wink:

Well i'm glad it all worked out for you..... :shock:


shoulda .. coulda taken less time....
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Day 5

#33 Post by Lobster »

Day 5 in the big brother operating system

Still in Ubuntu
This morning it booted me to a command line (what am I meant to do with that?)
Why? Well I happily installed a utility and deleted empty files and locales, what harm could there be in deleting these unneeded files? :oops:

Reward for stupidity (aka average abuser/user) = command line
Now in Puppy this is a five minute boot from CD to get back online.
Ubuntu offered no simple recovery for the simple minded and I had to reinstall.
Boo Ubuntu - I am your potential clientèle, I am the next billion users.
There is no cure. I can not be fixed.

I think I know why I boot Puppy from DVD
- it is safe from that idiot hacker, taker down of systems, perpetual twiddler (oui c'est moi - it is me) :oops:

I managed to interfere with my netbooks inbuilt OS
maybe I could do the same with those robust phone operating systems . . .

Am I unreasonable? Count on it!
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#34 Post by DaveS »

LOL Lobster. A month or so back, I decided to delete the hated (by me) bloatware Evolution Mail from 9.04. Result? No desktop, Gnome totally borked. Command line. Back to Puppy. :)
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#35 Post by James C »

I hadn't even booted my Ubuntu box in about a month, so tonight I booted it and am in the process of doing the online upgrade......mainly just to see what happens.

I'm experiencing the 4+ hours of downloading packages on my dsl connection as well.

I'm reminded again why I prefer Puppy. :)
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#36 Post by Lobster »

LOL Lobster
:? The Puppys are laughing at me again.

Yes indeed. Why is it when we - dare I say it - decide to use an operating system - it collapses. Put it in hardware. Quirky as that may seem, some motherboards have started doing just that . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashtop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29

The job of an operating system is to provide an environment to run software on hardware.

Does someone have the facilities to build and boot 'Puppy on hardware' and save some basic settings on a self made BIOS?
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#37 Post by DaveS »

Lobster wrote:
LOL Lobster
:? The Puppys are laughing at me again.

Yes indeed. Why is it when we - dare I say it - decide to use an operating system - it collapses. Put it in hardware. Quirky as that may seem, some motherboards have started doing just that . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashtop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperSpace_%28software%29

The job of an operating system is to provide an environment to run software on hardware.

Does someone have the facilities to build and boot 'Puppy on hardware' and save some basic settings on a self made BIOS?
I guess that is what is happening in the mobile phone world just now. Probably not that far away for Netbooks, PCs to follow..............
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#38 Post by legendofthor »

G'day,
I have tries all the buntu's from 7.10 and have only been mildly interested. However, Karmic is working much better than I could have possibly imagined - highly impressed. It's faster, lighter and less intrusive than its predecessors.
IMO it is the Linux for extremely busy people who don't have the time or energy to think about tweaking their system - the no-brainer linux. Unfortunately I'm becoming one of those peeps with no-time so my involvement with Puppy has decreased.
Puppy is still the distro of choice for the Toowoomba Linux User Group's reconditioning computers for the disadvantaged but for promoting Linux to "no-brainer" public we are currently recommending Ubuntu 9.10. Our 'show-pony' is a 7yo AMD K7 which is working lightening fast on this karmic.
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#39 Post by Lobster »

Ubuntu have a huge base of users and full time paid staff.
They have made use of their resources.

My ability to use a mouse and install software has been tested to the limit.
No-brainer is my modus operandi.
Ubuntu have even managed to hide the command line pretty well. Bravo.

However - and it is a big however, when i first booted up, I got a message saying: 'Input for this monitor not supported'.

I am back in Ubuntu. It might be better to use Mint (has the missing commercial codec), though I can not confirm that.
It might also be worth consider using Xubuntu which requires less resources than the default Gnome.

I hope we will see a New Year II Puppy from Mark (MU) - maybe in january. Some new Wooflet emergees and an ability to use more software seamlessly - another woof trait.

When penguins do good, we all benefit.
Good luck to them.
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#40 Post by sfl7fl »

i tried out the kubuntu 9.10 , i am not happy, kde portion unstable.
kept trying to send error reports, then said there was not enough information imo, not happy. puppy , smaller, les processes running, happier pet
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