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James C · #301 Post by **James C** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 05:34

Went ahead and did a quick frugal install.One little problem, the drive icon order is all jumbled.And yes, I've already refreshed the drive icons already.

All else good so far.

Sailor Enceladus · #302 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 05:42

I wonder what happens if you go beyond sdz (27+ physical drives), does sdaa show up before sdb?

lemmy999 · #303 Post by **lemmy999** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 06:46

This was looking really good. Wifi working OOTB. I went ahead and did a frugal install to a USB key but my laptop isn't seeing the key. I checked with Gparted and the boot flag does not appear to be set.

davids45 · #304 Post by **davids45** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 07:32

G'day 666philb,

I can corroborate James C's irregularly numbered drive icons.

In trying to capture the screenshot of my partition icons, I could not get the mtpaint screen capture on the Graphic menu to work. The one higher up the menu was OK. And re-sizing the image to fit the forum width (800 pixels?) has reduced the readability

.

I also had a vlc freeze watching a video (.avi) but haven't tried to replicate that yet, just in case it's another 'my fault' phenomenon.

Everything else is good, programs running well from boot-mounted sfs and from links to another partition, printer and scanner look OK, wine does its thing from another sfs with no problems.

Thanks for your time and patience.

David S.

ETP · #305 Post by **ETP** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 09:24

Initial test - Xenialpup CE 7.0.4 32-bit K 4.1.31 on 64-bit i5 with 4GB Ram

Hi 666philb,

Manual frugal install to fat32/f2fs USB-2 stick with Syslinux 4.04 boot.
I opted to upgrade the save folder from 7.0.3 but agree that is not a wise move to do so.
If any issues are encountered after doing that it is best to delete the save folder
and start afresh if the testing is to be valid. Happily I got lucky & only had to correct
a few desktop icons. Everything working fine but I took pity on the squirrel and fed him.

A couple of full sized screenshots follow showing it with FbBox-4.0_32Bit, Chrome 48.0.2564.116 and kodi_15.2+dfsg1.

(Press F11 to toggle in & out of full screen before clicking on each link)

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view ... nZWRHlTMnM

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view ... 1RoNVA5UEU

Keef · #306 Post by **Keef** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 09:31

@bigpup

Using the pre-installed version of Palemoon. Not updated anything.
This problem takes quite a while to appear - probably close to 2 hours.
After I closed Palemoon yesterday to reduce the CPU load, swap goes down to 186mb. Restarted Palemoon and all ok to start with, but eventually this starts to grow again.

[EDIT] I've downloaded the latest - 26.4.01.
Left it running on Tahr for a couple of hours, and there was no problem. Now trying it on Xenial.
[UPDATE]
After about an hour the swap partition filled up. The CPU then spiked at 100% - but then dropped back down to normal, so did not need to close Palemoon.
[UPDATE No.2] Well after about a further 20 minutes, it spiked again and stayed that way. Had to hit the power button.

lemmy999 · #307 Post by **lemmy999** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 10:14

All sorted now. I partitioned the USB stick with a standalone copy of Gparted and set the boot flag. Then installed xenialpup 7.04 frugally. All good apart from shutdown where I get a constant "xenialpup 7.0.4 is now shutting down" which it doesnt do. Not a showstopper but you always worry about hitting the one finger salute to kill the laptop completely.

Robin2 · #308 Post by **Robin2** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 16:29

James C wrote:the drive icon order is all jumbled

It looks like it is sorting according to the ascii characters rather than the integer values.

...R

bigpup · #309 Post by **bigpup** » Sun 28 Aug 2016, 20:36

lemmy999 wrote:All sorted now. I partitioned the USB stick with a standalone copy of Gparted and set the boot flag. Then installed xenialpup 7.04 frugally. All good apart from shutdown where I get a constant "xenialpup 7.0.4 is now shutting down" which it doesnt do. Not a showstopper but you always worry about hitting the one finger salute to kill the laptop completely.

I have seen a bad install cause this shutdown issue.
You could try a fresh new install.

What format did you use for the partition?

You say nothing about using a xenialsave file or folder.
Making a save and saving to a USB flash drive can take some time to complete at shutdown.

shutdown where I get a constant "xenialpup 7.0.4 is now shutting down" which it doesnt do.

Is this at the very first time you shutdown and it asks about making a save?

James C · #310 Post by **James C** » Mon 29 Aug 2016, 05:55

Thought I'd report no apparent problems using the latest stable version of Opera.

Overall haven't had time to test much but looking fairly solid so far.

James C · #311 Post by **James C** » Mon 29 Aug 2016, 06:20

mcewanw · #312 Post by **mcewanw** » Mon 29 Aug 2016, 07:12

Keef wrote: After about an hour the swap partition filled up. The CPU then spiked at 100% - but then dropped back down to normal, so did not need to close Palemoon.
[UPDATE No.2] Well after about a further 20 minutes, it spiked again and stayed that way. Had to hit the power button.

I recall having a problem such as this with the Palemoon Fred installed by default in (I think) DebianDog64 Jessie. I reluctantly replaced Palemoon with Firefox. I've been using Firefox ever since on there, and it has been a while so I'm afraid I can't confirm that result, but certainly there was a Palemoon-related problem, and certainly for a while all seemed fine but later CPU shot up.

William

lemmy999 · #313 Post by **lemmy999** » Mon 29 Aug 2016, 07:19

@bigpup

The key was formatted to ext4 (IIRC)

I made two keys ( one for me and one for a co-worker) and I can't remember which key is which in terms of setup. Both keys seem to work well. IIRC my key is formatted to FAT32 with a EXT4 savefile, the other one I'm not so sure. I do remember that it took a while to create the savefile on my key.

melon688 · #314 Post by **melon688** » Tue 30 Aug 2016, 15:25

(7.0.4) Don't know why I got this fullscreen capture?
7.0.3 has no this problem.

Sailor Enceladus · #315 Post by **Sailor Enceladus** » Tue 30 Aug 2016, 17:57

melon688 wrote:(7.0.4) Don't know why I got this fullscreen capture?
7.0.3 has no this problem.

I get that too sometimes. Seem to be a known issue:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=907607#907607

Pelo · #316 Post by **Pelo** » Thu 01 Sep 2016, 13:33

melon688, Mtpaint is the reason, change the version, or screeny's one
My xenial is 7.0.7 (screenshot below is not updated). Some problems with freezing desktop. Waiting a stable version, in progress with our technicians.
Why back to Precise ? because FFmepg available.
Why tahrpup and Xenial ? because of libs QT and new applicationns in PMM Ubuntu, as Alexandra, jukebox for your videos, done with SSR Simple Screen Recorder, of course

Feed back for our deliverymen : Xenialpup installed without trouble on Medion Akoya P7624

gyro · #317 Post by **gyro** » Sat 03 Sep 2016, 08:42

FYI

I have successfuly ported the new init script from the 'rationalise' branch into xenialpup 7.0.4, using the following method:

1. In another puppy, remove the following files from xenialsave folder:
etc/rc.d/functions4puppy4, etc/rc.d/rc.country, etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown, etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and etc/rc.d/rc.update.
2. Add a ydrv that contians the following files from the 'rationalise' branch:
etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown, etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit. usr/sbin/bootmanager, usr/sbin/sfs_load and usr/sbin/shutdownconfig.
3. Merge the new init script into the xenialpup initrd.gz.
4.Boot it.

gyro

666philb · #318 Post by **666philb** » Sat 03 Sep 2016, 08:52

Keef wrote:@bigpup

Using the pre-installed version of Palemoon. Not updated anything.
This problem takes quite a while to appear - probably close to 2 hours.
After I closed Palemoon yesterday to reduce the CPU load, swap goes down to 186mb. Restarted Palemoon and all ok to start with, but eventually this starts to grow again.

[EDIT] I've downloaded the latest - 26.4.01.
Left it running on Tahr for a couple of hours, and there was no problem. Now trying it on Xenial.
[UPDATE]
After about an hour the swap partition filled up. The CPU then spiked at 100% - but then dropped back down to normal, so did not need to close Palemoon.
[UPDATE No.2] Well after about a further 20 minutes, it spiked again and stayed that way. Had to hit the power button.

hi keef,

i've had a few freezes happen to me also..although i hadn't realised it could be palemoon... i may use firefox for the next build to see if that stops the freezes

666philb · #319 Post by **666philb** » Sat 03 Sep 2016, 08:54

lemmy999 wrote:This was looking really good. Wifi working OOTB. I went ahead and did a frugal install to a USB key but my laptop isn't seeing the key. I checked with Gparted and the boot flag does not appear to be set.

just tick the boot flag box in gparted

666philb · #320 Post by **666philb** » Sat 03 Sep 2016, 08:56

melon688 wrote:(7.0.4) Don't know why I got this fullscreen capture?
7.0.3 has no this problem.

i think this is hardware related....screeny doesn't seem to like some setups.
the prtsc key should be set to use mtpaints screenshot so try that

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