Fatdog64-700 beta1

[Bindee]

You might consider disabling backing store by default.

Thanks LateAdopter, we will try that. For those who don't know, to disable backing store, edit /etc/X11/xserverrc and add "-bs" to the command looks like this: exec X "$@" -bs -nolisten tcp > /tmp/xerrs.$USER.log 2>&1.

You and Kirk should write a long check list so you don't have to remember all these things now you build from scratch.

For those who needs to use another network manager, here is the tip on how to "disable" the built-in ones:
a) remove (or rename) /etc/rc.d/rc.network
b) remove (or rename or chmod -x) /etc/init.d/50-Wpagui
c) remove (or rename or chmod -x) /etc/xdg/Startup/WpaGui
Then you can happily install alternative network managers.

Can the same be done for sound for users that wish to install the Realtek Linux Proprietary drivers?

[jamesbond]

@JustGreg - I've uploaded wine sfs 1.7.23 and removed 1.7.26. 1.7.23 seems to work a wee bit better.

As for my-applications/bin - it's not coming back. It's a relic from puppy 1.x days (the proper location for those scripts are in /usr/local/bin). But if you have many legacy scripts, you can re-create functionality like this: create the /root/my-applications/bin/ yourself, then create a /root/.profile script and add this inside:

export PATH=$PATH:/root/my-applications/bin

and you should have the same functionality as before.

peasyprint is *already* inside, it's just that its menu entry is hidden. You need to install ghostscript in order to use it.

@rcrsn51 thanks. I agree with your sentiment (on PeasyWifi).

@bindee - huh, sound? what's network got to with sound?

[Bindee]

@bindee - huh, sound? what's network got to with sound?

LOL , nothing.

I meant is installing sound device Proprietary drivers as easy as removing a few folders before install or is it more complex and integrated.

Not sure if that makes sense as i'm not the most intelligent of people and often confuse myself.

[grump]

All went well until I tried to configure the BC_wl driver.

It's not in there yet, maybe with the next kernel build we'll put it in. Does the open source one still not work for you? I keep hoping we won't need wl.

Well, I don't what I did right - I booted 700b (I run it live from a USB stick with save and fd64.sfs on HDD), looked in user/share/broadcom and renamed the wl.ko that was there, uncompressed the one supplied a few posts above and copied into user/share/broadcom, then loaded wpa-gui-wpa and saw that I had an ip already. Everything works so far, including Iron and LibreOffice. Now for a reboot to see if it sticks.

Thanks guys - I like this FatDog.

btw is it my imagination or do my MP3s sound better in FD?

EDIT - rebooted and all is well!
Running on a HP Pavilion dm1 4108au lappy.

[JustGreg]

Thanks, JamesBond for the information on adding a directory to the PATH. Being a relic myself, you can understand my liking of the old Puppy 1.0 feature

I have tried the wpa-gui to make a wifi connection. I have two wifi networks in the house. The second one is to support my wife's Ipad, which appears to be a bit deaf, like me. The second one is an extension of the primary wifi network. I found that wpa-gui made a proper connection to primary one without any problems. However, with the second one, the extension, wpa-gui failed to make a connection. The failure was due to authorization failure. I use different passwords for each of the networks as a security measure. The extension network still relies on the primary one for DHCP services. I wonder if that may be an issue. I am open to trying something to help improve wpa-gui standard tool.

[Billtoo]

After using beta 1 for a couple of days and adding xfce4 + quite a few
other applications I ran the remaster live cd.
I burned the remaster.iso to a dvd.

It's working fine so far.

EDIT: I moved the remaster dvd to another pc with nvidia graphics.
When it booted it showed errors about not finding the
devx,kernelsource,and qt sfs files.
Smplayer needs qt and it's working fine.

Edit2: I moved the remaster dvd to another desktop pc which has intel
graphics.
It gave the errors about devx,kernelsourc,and qt sfs not found.
It didn't go straight to the desktop, ran xorgwizard and chose newer
intel, when finished xwin to the desktop.

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU 540 @ 3.07GHz
Memory 5975MB (334MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Fatdog64 [700b1]
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Fri Sep 19 12:52:16 2014
Display
Resolution 1920x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation

[Puppus Dogfellow]

Fatdog64-700b1.iso and fd64-devx_700b1.sfs mirrored.

[JustGreg]

I have some good news and some not so good news.

I did try the command export PATH="$PATH:added directory" command it worked. However, you have to do it everytime you open a terminal window. I want a permanent change. I did some research with old books and the web. To set the PATH at the startup, one either uses /root/.bash_profile or /etc/profile according to various sources. Try this, I found neither worked for new terminal window. By reading /etc/profile, I found a reference to /etc/shinit file. Reading /etc/shinit, I found it was the file that initializes the terminal window. I added an entry for my desired PATH and it worked. The file /etc/shinit will allows you to customize the terminal window.

I am using the old version (1.7.23) of Wine. It works well. The program Iexplore (web browser) still bombs badly. I think Iexplore is just fouled up. I copied my .wine directory from Fatdog 631 and ran the 1.7.23 winecfg on it. The program winecfg updated the directory. The good news is Quicken (32 bit) which I have been using since 1994 worked perfectly without a problem. For me this is very good news.

I did some more testing with wpa-gui. I, first disabled wpa-gui. I used some scripts from 2008 time frame (Puppy version 4) for connecting to wireless networks. I found they worked without a problem for both of my wireless networks (primary and secondary extension). Tempestuous has excellent explanation of the process here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22469
I also found some old notes and testing it is still best to reboot between each wifi configuration tested (script versus wpa-gui).

I enabled wpa-gui, disconnected the ethernet connection and rebooted. I found wpa-gui worked without a problem with the secondary extension of the primary wireless network. With the primary network, wpa-gui would connect and then take a long time to get an IP address from DHCP. After awhile, wpa-gui would disconnect and start the process to reconnect. I found there was a good connection (i.e. web browser could reach Google) sometimes when wpa-gui notified the connection was down. The primary wireless network is much weaker than the secondary one, Once again, I am open to suggestions for testing wpa-gui.

20 Sept. Edit: I did some further testing will only the primary network available. I found I could reproduce the problem (connect/disconnect/reconnect) with wpa-gui on an android netbook. The wifi management program on the android netbook did the exact same process. The problem is probably due to low signal. I have also monitor signal strength with the tablet. It showed the primary network would fade as people and dogs moved around the house. My suggestion if you are having a problem with wifi connections then move closer to the wifi router.

[solex]

I downloaded the latest 64 bit ica client as an rpm and was surprised that the puparchiver just unpacked it. RPM and DEB were the only options they used to have an installer

I placed the Citrix folder under /opt but am having no luck getting it to execute an ica file from the browser

[Billtoo]

I'm trying out windowmaker + razor panel, it's working okay but it's
time consuming to figure out and set up, for an old fellow like me
anyways

WindowMaker-0.95.6.tar.gz, got the source code here:

http://windowmaker.org/

[JustGreg]

I have used thunderbird for a long time and would desire to continue to use. I did notice there is no package for thunderbird at this time. I did a search on "thunderbird gslapt package" and found a post about thunderbird and Fatdog 64 700.

The suggestion was to download the official package (comes in tar.bz2 format) and expand it. I did that in a test directory and found that thunderbird would open up. I did not try anything else. I know the files are in the incorrect place. Also thunderbird should be run as user spot.

Where should I move the files (/usr/lib64 maybe?) and should I copy from version 631 the thunderbird-spot script file?

If this works for me then the next question will be how does one make gslapt package. Thanks in advance for any help.

[kirk]

I placed the Citrix folder under /opt but am having no luck getting it to execute an ica file from the browser

I don't know anything about ica, but this could be a permissions problem. To test, open a terminal and type firefox. This will run Firefox as the root user. Then try your ica stuff. If that works you can change the owner of the ica folder to spot. The browser runs as user spot by default. If you put the ica folder in the Downloads folder this will be done automatically. Or you can run the browser as root.

The suggestion was to download the official package (comes in tar.bz2 format) and expand it. I did that in a test directory and found that thunderbird would open up. I did not try anything else. I know the files are in the incorrect place. Also thunderbird should be run as user spot.

Where should I move the files (/usr/lib64 maybe?) and should I copy from version 631 the thunderbird-spot script file?

If this works for me then the next question will be how does one make gslapt package. Thanks in advance for any help.

I don't think it matters where you put thunderbird, but normally it would go in /usr/lib64 and then the executable would be symlinked into /usr/bin. To run as user spot take a look at the /usr/bin/firefox-spot script. To make a package, have a look at this: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... ckage.html and look at the makepkg instructions.

[LateAdopter]

Hello jamesbond & kirk

I'm trying to build mesa 10.3 in fd7 so that I can get a bit further with my VDPAU experiment.

configure tells me that libdrm_radeon is 2.4.54 and it wants 2.4.56 (which what is in Utopic.)

So I got the Utopic .deb and copied the file over the original, then did ldconfig, which is what the .deb control file does.

But configure still gives the same error.

EDIT

I think I've worked it out: it really wants the libdrm-dev package for 2.4.56.

[Billtoo]

I moved my remaster dvd to my Gateway desktop and it booted up
reporting the devx,kernel source,and qt sfs errors.
I rebooted and had it create a savefile in a fd64save folder on an external
usb 3.0 hard drive.
The pc has an PCIe card with two usb 3.0 ports but I can't boot from
any devices connected to either port from the bios boot menu.

USB controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03)

I did boot from a device on the card in the past by editing grub but
it's too complicated for me and fatdog searches and finds the savefile
when I boot from the dvd so that's good.
I downloaded and loaded the devx,kernel source,and qt sfs files then
rebooted, the sfs files loaded fine.

So I'll burn a couple more dvds of my remaster.iso to use on other
computers and leave this setup as is.
Booting from a remaster dvd with the savefile on a flash drive or usb hard drive
works well and doesn't disturb the main hard drive at all.

So that concludes my remaster.iso adventure, thanks.

[JustGreg]

Thanks for the reply, Kirk.

I don't think it matters where you put thunderbird, but normally it would go in /usr/lib64 and then the executable would be symlinked into /usr/bin. To run as user spot take a look at the /usr/bin/firefox-spot script.

I put the expanded package in /usr/lib64. I first created thunderbird-spot from the firefox-spot script by changing firefox to thunderbird. It did not work. Thunderbird wanted to create a new profile. I went through the steps, but, it failed. The error message give was a failure to write due to permissions.

I then tried the thunderbird-spot script from fatdog 64 version 631. When I attempt to run it, thunderbird wanted to create a new profile. I got the same failure to write error.

I ran thunderbird as root. Everything worked correctly. A new profile in /root/.thunderbird was created. I was able to copy my contents of my profile from fatdog64 version 631 to the new profile. Thunderbird when started when through the old profile data, updated it, and started correctly. I was able to access my email account, download new messages, and the addresses were present.

Any suggestions for running it as spot? is there a major security problem with running as root? At this point, running as root is very easy.

Fixed it! I checked the permissions on /root/spot/.thunderbird directory. For some reasons, only the owner could access it. Using chmod 777 on .thunderbird directory correct the problem. The code for the thunderbird-spot script is:

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#!/bin/dash
#{ chown spot /root/spot/Downloads;
#chown spot /aufs/devsave/Downloads; } 2> /dev/null
cd /root/spot/.thunderbird
exec /usr/bin/run-as-spot /usr/bin/thunderbird "$@"

Now to review the package making instructions.

[WillM]

What is the correct flags for makepkg? On Slackware Wiki it answers yes to -l. On the Fatdog64 FAQ page the flag is set to [n]o.

@Billtoo Looking good.

[Gobbi]

Billtoo , could you please share how do you put different backgrounds on two monitors ?

Using Catalyst I was only able to stretch the same image onto the pair of my monitors , or have identical backgrounds on them ...

[Billtoo]

Billtoo , could you please share how do you put different backgrounds on two monitors ?

Using Catalyst I was only able to stretch the same image onto the pair of my monitors , or have identical backgrounds on them ...

Xfce4 gives that option in the desktop settings.

[Gobbi]

Thank's a lot Billtoo

I use XFCE on LHP602 and on Carolina , but only on Fatdog it crossed my mind to try using 2 monitors (...it's my main distro ...). I understand you compiled XFCE4 from source code - or tried a pet from another pup eventually loading 32bit sfs ?

[stemsee]

@Jamesbond and Kirk

What is the size limit of fd64.sfs inside the initrd, so that it boots to ram without complaining? Where/why is this limit set?