PHATSlacko - March 2013

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tlchost · #41 Post by **tlchost** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 17:31

Minnesota wrote: I believe that problem is solved if you format to FAT32 instead of recommended Linux ext2.

Did not solve the problem here.

gcmartin · #42 Post by **gcmartin** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 18:21

There seems to be a problem with this distro's SAMBA.

Edit2: this problem seemingly is linked, somehow, to DNS/WINS registration. One of the Live PCs has magically appeared with its server name and workgroup names showing as well as a MASTER name (workgroup line) as well. Its information fields are filled when viewed from on all 3 PCs, while the other 2 PCs fields remain with empty fields no matter where the smbclient's query is run for them.. (SEE BELOW in "More Additional Information")

Edit1: Warning, this problem is showing up in FATDOG620 which also ships with a current SAMBA for system startup. (SEE BELOW in "Additonal findings", as well)

What is occurring is that the PC is being statted with SAMBA which doesn't display a hostname. And nothing appears to be working to get it to product its Netbios hostname. This is observed soon after FirstRun completes by pening a terminal and doing the following

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# smbclient -U% -L localhost
Domain=[Workgroup] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.0.0]

	Sharename       Type      Comment
	---------       ----      -------
	Dowbkiads       Disk      
	IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (Puppy Samba Server)
	CUPS-PDF        Printer   CUPS-PDF
Domain=[Workgroup] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.0.0]

	Server               Comment
	---------            -------

	Workgroup            Master
	---------            -------
#

Am wondering if the latest security releases of SAMBA will alleviate this problem in PhatSlacko.

Confusing, is my KVM virtual machine version is NOT exhibiting this problem for it sees the hostname and the workgroup name appropriately displayed. But the problem is found on the Live booted laptop and desktops, thus far.

Further, doing a save-session and reboot, the same problem exist on reboot as before....And retrying with a boot where "pfix=ram" yields same error.

The PC's desktop start procedure can be observed by the steps outlined in this Beginner's Guide document.

Additional findings
This exist on my current FATDOG-620 system as well running SAMBA 3.6.12. This may NOT be a simple SAMBA version problem but maybe something else in the distros.

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# smbd restart
# smbclient -U% -L localhost
WARNING: The security=share option is deprecated
Failed to load upcase.dat, will use lame ASCII-only case sensitivity rules
Failed to load lowcase.dat, will use lame ASCII-only case sensitivity rules
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.6.12]

	Sharename       Type      Comment
	---------       ----      -------
	data            Disk      Downloads
	IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (FATDOG620beta2-SMB)
	CUPS-PDF        Printer   CUPS-PDF
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.6.12]

	Server               Comment
	---------            -------

	Workgroup            Master
	---------            -------
#

Ideas....anyone on why the Server and Workgroup fields are showing up blank? NO firewalls are active.

More Additional Information
Cannot explain why this suddenly has info and others dont. This view is run from FATDOG looking out at one of the PhatSlacko's on the LAN. That PC's server and workgroup fields were shown like the above consoles show.

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# smbclient -U% -L 192.168.1.6
WARNING: The security=share option is deprecated
Failed to load upcase.dat, will use lame ASCII-only case sensitivity rules
Failed to load lowcase.dat, will use lame ASCII-only case sensitivity rules
Domain=[Workgroup] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.0.0]

	Sharename       Type      Comment
	---------       ----      -------
	Downloads       Disk      A Central Download folder for all to use
	Downloads2      Disk      A Central Download folder for all to use
	IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (Samba Server)
	CUPS-PDF        Printer   CUPS-PDF
Domain=[Workgroup] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.0.0]

	Server               Comment
	---------            -------
	PHATSLACKO-ONX2      Samba Server
	UPSTREAM             Lure/Record IP address

	Workgroup            Master
	---------            -------
	Workgroup            UPSTREAM
#

This PC had blank fields when viewed 1 hour ago when trying to get to the bottom of this problem. But, the other PCs have same blank fields as before.

in case anyone is wondering, Iff the IP addresses are used, all shared resources can be accessed.

Any ideas

simargl · #43 Post by **simargl** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 18:52

ally · #44 Post by **ally** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 19:58

hey micko

gvfs fixed transmission/audacious errors

@simargl

curious to know more

01micko · #45 Post by **01micko** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 20:20

@ally.. good gvfs fixed it.

<ot>
simargl is just peeved because of this. Never mind his bagging of puppy in general and alienating his major adrive developer.

He'll either get over it one day or fight to the bitter end. Doesn't matter.

</ot>

peebee · #46 Post by **peebee** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 20:38

Hi Mick

PhatSlacko doesn't include the Broadcom wl.ko wifi driver.

Tried to compile it but loading the Slacko5.5 devx with sfs-load-on-the-fly kills PhatSlacko stone dead....

Have checked all md5sums are correct, plus loading the devx in Slack5.5 is fine.

Loading via the bootmanager does seem to work and wl.ko is compiled but a modpost error occurs during compiling.

The delta file for k3.8,2 and the multi-kernel wl driver pets can be found:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 468#691468

Cheers
Peebee

01micko · #47 Post by **01micko** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 21:08

gcmartin wrote:There seems to be a problem with this distro's SAMBA.

I don't think it's time to panic just yet! I think if running live there is a minor bug that sets the share to /mnt/home, which doesn't yet exist. This can be easily rectified with samba simple management. Also, samba needs to be restarted after changing the hostname, this is what may have caused your problem.

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peebee, I didn't have a problem loading the devx. Anyone else experience this?

rcrsn51 · #48 Post by **rcrsn51** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 22:03

Mick: Both Samba and devx loading look fine to me. Although I don't agree with having the Samba server turned ON by default.

peebee · #49 Post by **peebee** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 22:17

01micko wrote:peebee, I didn't have a problem loading the devx. Anyone else experience this?

Hi Mick

I think I know the answer.....

My usual method of compiling is to boot a pristine frugal install with no savefile and then load the devx and kernel souces with sfs load on the fly and then make - i.e all in ram.

I guess PhatSlacko with the adrv loaded may use a lot more ram and therefore the above method will not work - will test by having no adrv loaded....

[edit] - nope still crashes even without the adrv

Precise 5.4.93 with the k3.8.0 kernel behaved in exactly the same way:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00142

Sorry if I've raised a red herring.
Cheers
peebee

01micko · #50 Post by **01micko** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 22:40

No problems peebee... if you want to compile in RAM use /tmp but if it was just to be faster, that is without installing then yes, RAM crash is the culprit.

You can also make and mount a RAM disk, Bruce B has the code in one of his stickies at the top of the forum, I forget off hand

01micko · #51 Post by **01micko** » Tue 12 Mar 2013, 22:43

rcrsn51 wrote:Although I don't agree with having the Samba server turned ON by default.

Yes, should be off. Next time I build an adrive I'll do that.

rcrsn51 · #52 Post by **rcrsn51** » Wed 13 Mar 2013, 02:44

The 3.8.2 kernel has the same problem with the cifs module as appeared in one of BarryK's bleeding edge releases. - it cannot mount Samba-TNG shares unless the "sec=ntlm" option is used.

Unfortunately, there were several people who claimed that they could not mount their Windows shares either, and no variation of the above option helped.

01micko · #53 Post by **01micko** » Wed 13 Mar 2013, 06:01

rcrsn51 wrote:The 3.8.2 kernel has the same problem with the cifs module as appeared in one of BarryK's bleeding edge releases. - it cannot mount Samba-TNG shares unless the "sec=ntlm" option is used.

Unfortunately, there were several people who claimed that they could not mount their Windows shares either, and no variation of the above option helped.

Hmmm.. I just tried with network_roxapp to mount a vista share and a win7 share and it works fine, however, password protection seems it must be enabled, but this is true of slacko-5.5 as well, which would imply userspace rather than the kernel, in my case anyway. (neither, see below)

Actually, might be a bug in the roxapp (which I thought I fixed).

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 mount.cifs //192.168.1.2/users cif-mount
Password:

Left password blank after turning off password protected sharing in vista.

rcrsn51 · #54 Post by **rcrsn51** » Wed 13 Mar 2013, 14:03

01micko wrote:Actually, might be a bug in the roxapp (which I thought I fixed).

No. This appears to be kernel-related. The users who reported a problem claimed that they could successfully connect with earlier kernels. However, other Puppy regulars had no problems with their Windows shares.

Some Googling reveals that there are issues with k3.8 and the cifs module. But "sec=ntlm" is the recommended solution.

Why this doesn't work for everyone is a mystery. It probably has something to do with how authentication is handled on the Windows host machine.

gcmartin · #55 Post by **gcmartin** » Wed 13 Mar 2013, 21:40

I had thought that SAMBA4 had a problem, initially. But, after further review, there is NO problem with SAMBA4 or its operations. The problem
as i have already shared is probably ENVIRONMENTAL (the LAN).

My LAN currently has a AP with built-in WiFi server built in. The WiFi feature is turned off, but DNSMASQ is part of its Linux fabrric.

Thus, when PCs enter the LAN, my 2 PhatSlacko have somehow found their way and became registered at the "Master" (See smbclient below)

Hope this phenomenon is understood. It seems a little odd that the SAMBA V4 is registering while the V3 of FATDOG is not getting same results.

Following is currently seen from PhatSlacko.

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# smbclient -L localhost
Enter root's password: 
Anonymous login successful
Domain=[OIC-CORP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.0.0]

	Sharename       Type      Comment
	---------       ----      -------
	Downloads       Disk      A Central Download folder for all to use
	Downloads2      Disk      A Central Download folder for all to use
	IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (Samba Server)
	CUPS-PDF        Printer   CUPS-PDF
Anonymous login successful
Domain=[OIC-CORP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.0.0]

	Server               Comment
	---------            -------
	PHATSLACKO-ONX2      Samba Server
	UPSTREAM             Lure/Record IP address

	Workgroup            Master
	---------            -------
	OIC-CORP             UPSTREAM
#

Here to help

umair · #56 Post by **umair** » Thu 14 Mar 2013, 07:49

01micko wrote:Hey umair,

No benefit (until proven to be stable) except for the fun of experimenting! f2fs is a new Flash file system developed by Samsung for Nand flash devices such as USB sticks, SD cards, Solid State drives. It is in it's infancy so for stability I recommend tried and true methods.
HTH

Thnx for the info Mick

Billtoo · #57 Post by **Billtoo** » Fri 15 Mar 2013, 03:24

Running from an 8gb SDHC card on an older HP desktop pc.
video-info-glx 1.5.1 Thu 14 Mar 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.5.00 Linux 3.8.2 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV530 [Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @2411 MHz
Memory 1553MB (201MB used)
Creative Technology Ltd Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro

It's working well.

James C · #58 Post by **James C** » Fri 15 Mar 2013, 03:51

Possibly related to my problems with the 3.8.x kernels.... some broken drivers in the 3.8.x kernels was reported in the Slackware changelog of March 12...
ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slac ... ngeLog.txt

For this kernel update I decided to go with 3.7.10. Yeah, the 3.7 series
is EOL, but I've heard about some broken drivers in 3.8.x that make me
hesitate to push forward.

tlchost · #59 Post by **tlchost** » Fri 15 Mar 2013, 12:49

When using desksetup templates to save changes in which icons and in which position they appear, the changes on last in the current session. When I reboot my USB, the icons have reverted to their original positions.

I can run the desksetup app everytime I reboot, but that's not very efficient.

Would appreciate a fix.

Thanks
Thom

BHINTZ · #60 Post by **BHINTZ** » Fri 22 Mar 2013, 19:56

When I first booted up phatslacko it mounted my sd card and even allowed me to reformat it. However, when I rebooted and created a save file, it was gone and I have not found a way to make it reappear. This is the first puppy that recognized this slot at all.

Any clues on how to make if work would be appreciated.

bob

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