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[d4p]

Nothing special, just boot slitaz-4.0-RC1 directly from iso with grub4dos.
No problem booting on NTFS external/internal HDD in multiboot.

At least 60% of linux lives (my multiboot) can boot from NTFS.
Defragmenter tool is important for multiboot no matter what type of partitions.

[amigo]

"To sum it up - tiny size means nothing. The best way to achieve this is removal of crucial features and separation of crucial components into add-on packages.

I see this as a bad idea, since it confuses users and makes installation harder. Moreover, it is nothing but lying to users. That's simply cruel."

Well said, iguleder. I think too many Puppy devs/contribs are too fixated on making everything as tiny as possible. As you say, the end result is always semi-cripple applications.

[nooby]

Nothing special, just boot slitaz-4.0-RC1 directly from iso with grub4dos.
No problem booting on NTFS external/internal HDD in multiboot.

At least 60% of linux lives (my multiboot) can boot from NTFS.
Defragmenter tool is important for multiboot no matter what type of partitions.

I would not mind if you share what code you used on NTFS.

On reboot pro they suggest this for the 4.0 version

title Slitaz 4 RC Live
find --set-root /slitaz-4.0-RC1.iso
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /slitaz-4.0-RC1.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
chainloader /boot/isolinux/isolinux.bin

But that is on usb and not on internal hd AFAIK.

Here is another reporting having trouble too
http://forum.slitaz.org/topic/40-rc1-cr ... panic-help
but got solved in the end. I fail to find the code they used through?

[linuxbear]

So, this brings the possibility that when installing a linux system to ntfs that it could be all over the place unless you defragment your windows partition

I had trouble back in the way-back with a puppy install on a FAT 32 drive because, well, I don't rightly remember just WHAT was going through my head at the time. I was fixin-ta-git-ready-ta reboot Puppy when I got it into my head to defrag under windows. Result" Puppy refused to boot. From that point on, I kept them on separate partitions

...Glen

[linuxbear]

.....grub4dos.

I absolutely refuse to grub around in DOS except for 20 percent of the time when absolutely I have to........

[Bert]

I'm unable to remain silent much longer. For the last week or so, I've been using a new Linux distribution, based on Debian Stable, called Solus OS. ('Solus' is old Irish for 'light'.)

This distro is created by Ikey*, a well known Linux Mint developer and it is a truely amazing. I would have never thought to ever use a Gnome distro again, as Gnome had become, in my experience on low power hardware, the definition of a snail struggling through molasses.

Not so with Solus OS. Imagine a full colour, luxurious Gnome desktop, using about 119mb of Ram at bootup... Everything working out-of-the-box and amazingly fast!

Based on Debian stable usually means, well.. stable, but also boring...not here!
SolusOS comes as a (now) traditional live-cd, with the 'install' button on the desktop.

One thing I find difficult to cope with, after all these years in Puppy, is the constant nagging to 'authenticate' as the administrator, typing the password again and again, even to just drag a simple text file from /downloads to my data file system on another partition. I have been running several 'buntus as user root for months without any problem, but Debian does not accept the 'buntu root password trick.

But how I love this combination of speed and stability!
From what I understood, this is just the beginning. Gnome 2 will eventually disappear, but that will not hinder Ikey and his developer friends to come up with a unique combination of low resource usage and user friendliness.

Just don't expect to run SolusOS frugally from NTFS...

* Ikey Doherty
website: http://solusos.com/

[nooby]

Writing from Slitaz. Found a way to boot using google.

First thanks to d4p for mentioning that one should try iso boot
So I googled and came up with this try on NTFS internal HD.


title Slitaz 4.0 RC Live
find --set-root /slitaz-4.0-RC1.iso
kernel /boot/bzImage
initrd /boot/rootfs4.gz /boot/rootfs3.gz /boot/rootfs2.gz /boot/rootfs1.gz

why it failed for me latest try could be the , comma that I left there.
That is code for isolinux so maybe grub4dos can not handle commas

This time I did manage to get internet as you can see.

I have to test again without the commas.

Edit and it where the commas that made it fail. now without them it boots
Here is the code I use now after a reboot

title Slitaz 4RC username root password root
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /boot/bzimage
kernel /boot/bzImage rw root=/dev/null home=sda2 lang=en_US kmap=fi-latin1 vga=791 screen=1024x768x24
initrd /boot/rootfs4.gz /boot/rootfs3.gz /boot/rootfs2.gz /boot/rootfs1.gz

home=sda2 maybe should not be there. Try without first

So one don't need the iso on the HD only the boot directory extracted out
of the iso and placed on the /mnt/home/ if one see it from puppy perspective.

The fi thing is to get swedish chars. Finland are using both languages due to a Swedish minority that have been there for some 600 years.
I am going to bed now so thanks for teaching me how to boot

[smokey01]

Bert I'm still downloading it but it's rather large at 839M.

[nooby]

Much Thanks to d4p this is the second time you tell me things
that makes me able to boot a linux distro that I failed to boot.

But why not give your code. Can not be that hard is it?

I mean if even I manage to give the boot code. What can stop you from doing it?

[Bert]

Bert I'm still downloading it but it's rather large at 839M.

Yes, It's a big download... I think this is because of the way Debian includes all locales in the initial download. On the other hand, most of the big Linux dogs seem to be over 1GB nowadays..

[smokey01]

I guess size is part of the reason that I like puppy so much. Two minutes to download, one minute to install and you're operational.

Anyway I'm at 40% download and will have a look soon. It's going to have to be burned to a DVD as it won't fit on a CD.

Cheers

Bert I'm still downloading it but it's rather large at 839M.

Yes, It's a big download... I think this is because of the way Debian includes all locales in the initial download. On the other hand, most of the big Linux dogs seem to be over 1GB nowadays..

[Bert]

I guess size is part of the reason that I like puppy so much. Two minutes to download, one minute to install and you're operational.

I agree totally! (make that 10 minutes on my 'dsl' connection )

[smokey01]

I'm posting from SolusOS now. It does look quite nice but it doesn't have that nippiness that most of the Puppies have.

Connected to internet OOB and also straight to desktop, so far so good.

[Bert]

I'm posting from SolusOS now. It does look quite nice but it doesn't have that nippiness that most of the Puppies have.

Connected to internet OOB and also straight to desktop, so far so good.

Two things: I installed Solus OS on a fanless Atom D525 with 2GB of ram and a ssd HD.. Many would call this a low-power box, but it is of course very modern. Especially the ssd disk makes things fly.. Second: did you run from live-dvd or from a HD install?

But I agree, some of Puppy's snappiness is lost, but not much in my experience.

[smokey01]

Two things: I installed Solus OS on a fanless Atom D525 with 2GB of ram and a ssd HD.. Many would call this a low-power box, but it is of course very modern. Especially the ssd disk makes things fly.. Second: did you run from live-dvd or from a HD install?

But I agree, some of Puppy's snappiness is lost, but not much in my experience.

Running from a live DVD.

It's quite nice. I tried to view a .MOV file but it didn't have the appropriate dependencies installed but it downloaded them without a hitch then worked as expected.

Getting sound recording to work is a bit of a problem. So far that's the only thing that doesn't work. Ah and Openshot, it didn't work either but that may be because I'm running live.

Being able to resize icons on the desktop is pretty cool.

All in all quite impressive. It won't replace Puppy though.

[nooby]

DistroWatch has DreamStudio 11.10 for download.
11.10 could refer to 2011 October
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distri ... reamstudio

Dream Studio is an Ubuntu-based distribution containing tools to create stunning graphics, captivating videos, inspiring music, and professional websites. Some of the included and pre-configured applications include Cinelerra (a powerful non-linear video editor), Ardour (a professional digital audio workstation), CinePaint (a tool for motion picture frame-by-frame retouching), Blender (a 3D graphics application), Inkscape (a vector graphics editor), Synfig Studio (a vector-based 2D animation software), Kompozer (a complete web authoring system), and many others.

I am using my simplified code that I got inspired to use
by d4p while he had a more complicated one that did not
work on my gear.

title dreamstudio_11.10
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /dreamstudio_11.10.iso
kernel /dreamstudio_11.10/casper/vmlinuz rw file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper iso-scan/filename=/dreamstudio_11.10.iso noeject noprompt
initrd /dreamstudio_11.10/casper/initrd.lz


Sadly DS use Unity? which is not so user friendly.
In System Tools I fail to find Terminal or Console
so they has renamed it to something else?

So I can not set Swedish keyboard map.

Due to the size of the program it is very slow to use
on my small 1GB Netbook. But everything seems to work.

The biggest surprise is that despite Ubuntu claim them have
plugged the ?Bug? that I thought I did find?

Maybe I misunderstood but I can still do things that
Ubuntu usually don\t want a noob to be able to do
without using sudo and su and whatever they fancy.

So that is a good thing for me.

So to all clever guys and girls out there.
What is the name for the Terminal Console CLI thing?
on DreamStudio?

[d4p]

"Just don't expect to run SolusOS frugally from NTFS..."

It works fine on NTFS, just I got a message "volume is dirty" while booting.

"Not so with Solus OS. Imagine a full colour, luxurious Gnome desktop, using about 119mb of Ram at bootup... Everything working out-of-the-box and amazingly fast!"

I guess Austrumi v2.4.8 is amazingly fast. It can boot even faster than slitaz.
The iso size is under 220 Mb, ram usage is 115Mb

[nooby]

"Just don't expect to run SolusOS frugally from NTFS..."

It works fine on NTFS, just I got a message "volume is dirty" while booting.

"Not so with Solus OS. Imagine a full colour, luxurious Gnome desktop, using about 119mb of Ram at bootup... Everything working out-of-the-box and amazingly fast!"

I guess Austrumi v2.4.8 is amazingly fast. It can boot even faster than slitaz.
The iso size is under 220 Mb, ram usage is 115Mb

Are we talking about the same thing?

As I vaguely remember you have the menu.lst on another partition than
where you have the iso that you boot with?

Even on USB? The usb may be in ntfs but the menu.lst may be on a ext2 formatted partition on same usb or on the hd?

My body tells me you even have three partitions?

While when most of us talk about using frugal install we talk about using the HD that is formatted in ntfs and having the menu.lst on same partition
as the iso is placed upon and boot from.

And why don't you give the code?

[nooby]

It works fine internal/external Hd

title Bodhi_1.2.1.iso
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /bodhi_1.2.1.iso
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /bodhi_1.2.1.iso (0xFF)
map --hook
root (0xFF)
kernel /casper/vmlinuz file=/cdrom/preseed/custom.seed boot=casper persistent iso-scan/filename=/bodhi_1.2.1.iso quiet splash --
initrd /casper/initrd.gz

So if one want to boot Solus what to put there instead?
from here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 565#573565

[nooby]

"I can sure try but my poor memory tells me that grub4dos can not do

this on internal ntfs hdd at all.

map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 /bodhi_1.2.1.iso (0xFF)
map --hook
root (0xFF)"


It Posted: Tue 04 Oct 2011, 23:17, how to do it.

okay I try to find that one then. Wait a minute

There is no post at this date in that thread
It Posted: Tue 04 Oct 2011, 23:17, how to do it.

Which post do your refer to? Can you quote it please!