Puppy for Intel Pentium MMX 200Mhz

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MatthewBrian
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Puppy for Intel Pentium MMX 200Mhz

#1 Post by MatthewBrian »

Hi,

I had a PC with Pentium MMX 200Mhz, 64MB RAM (maximum), 1.2GB HDD, 2MB S3 Trio64v+ VGA card.

What version of Puppy could be installed to this machine?
Is 1.2GB HDD still enough to be dual-booted with Windows 2000? (Windows 2000 consumes +- 400MB. I put my data on another USB drive)

Thank you very much.
Dewbie

#2 Post by Dewbie »

Your best bet is to download and burn several different Puppies to CD, then boot and run from live CD to see which ones will work.

I wouldn't try anything newer than Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and its two retro versions, and even this might be pushing it on a computer that old.

Another suggestion is this: http://www.wisdom-seekers.com/puppy214x.html which is relatively new, but designed to run on older hardware.

Here are some instructions that should be helpful:
http://puppylinux.org/main/Manual-English.htm

The Preparing the Hard Disk section should answer questions about HDD size.

If everything works out OK there, then given your computer's limitations, I would choose the Installation-Full method.
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#3 Post by MatthewBrian »

I had ever tried Puppy 2 from USB, and it is awfully slow. Somehow this PC can't use 2 IDE drives (it has only one IDE slot on the motherboard which supports only 1 IDE device rather than two).

So, is there any alternative method like network booting?
Thank you.
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#4 Post by looseSCREWorTWO »

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see my post below
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#5 Post by James C »

Concerning the size of Linux swap read here......
http://www.linux.com/news/software/appl ... swap-space

A quote from the above link...

The key question is how much? Older versions of Unix-type operating systems (such as Sun OS and Ultrix) demanded a swap space of two to three times that of physical memory. Modern implementations (such as Linux) don't require that much, but they can use it if you configure it. A rule of thumb is as follows: 1) for a desktop system, use a swap space of double system memory, as it will allow you to run a large number of applications (many of which may will be idle and easily swapped), making more RAM available for the active applications; 2) for a server, have a smaller amount of swap available (say half of physical memory) so that you have some flexibility for swapping when needed, but monitor the amount of swap space used and upgrade your RAM if necessary; 3) for older desktop machines (with say only 128MB), use as much swap space as you can spare, even up to 1GB.
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#6 Post by looseSCREWorTWO »

Like Dewbie says, try ttuuxxx's Puppy 214:
http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... 06c40aeab8

Or Puppy 412 Retro:
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... monkey.iso
md5sum bf25e4e91f1cac3265e0f9c620e48389 puppy-4.1.2retro-k2.6.21.7-seamonkey.iso

To run these versions of Puppy you only need 512mb of Total Memory (which is RAM+Swap) so I would use Gparted to create a Linux-Swap Partition on the HDD of 448mb. Puppy should use it automatically when you reboot. If it runs really . . . S . . . L . . . O . . . W . . . try James C's idea of increasing Swap up to 1gb and see if it makes any difference. You need to have Puppy installed to the HDD if possible, cos you'll have USB 1 ports, which are 40 times slower than USB 2.

If you're into Dumpster-Diving like I am, keep an eye out for any old PCs that are being thrown by neighbours or at work, as they might have USB 2 ports on a PCI Card which you could use on your PC.

then again, if you see an old PC being thrown out by someone, you might be able to grab it, take it home and use it. Just make sure you have it plugged in to a Surge Protected powerboard , so you don't burn the house down when you switch it on :lol:

For a Web browser I'd suggest Dillo.

Keep us posted on how it all goes.
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#7 Post by MatthewBrian »

I just need this PC to do some light browsing and as a print server for my local network (it is connected to wireless LAN and provides printing to my two USB and Parallel printers), so I'd better just install Windows 2000 and DSL.

Thank you for all your kind support.
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#8 Post by looseSCREWorTWO »

you might have more luck with Windows 98, but it will probably drive you nuts every time you plug in a new USB device . . .
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#9 Post by Burn_IT »

There are PlugnPlay divers available for Win98 USB.
I use ones for 98se and seldom have to find drivers.
I have an old P233 mmx that runs Puppy 4.something. It does have 96mb memory though.
I have some sdram pc133 256Mb and some old ddr 8mb sticks if they are any good? for youl
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Puppy for Intel Pentium MMX 200 mhz

#10 Post by ndujoe1 »

I would recommend Puppylinux 2.15CE. It is an older version but works on older machines like yours.
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#11 Post by racepres »

That box will be just fine with 214X r5 from TTuuxxx!
I run machines with much slower processors than that on it.
Or even "Mean Puppy"
Need some ram tho.... What ram does it use? and how many slots??
I may have some I can send to you.
RP

BTW win 2k can co-exist w/ puppy on that drive!
Mine do!!!
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