Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18

[shinobar]

ANNOUNCE:
Now the lang_pack_cjk-lupq-0.2.sfs supports Luci-242 thanks to the '*.UTF-8' locale name.
The language packages are available here.

Of course the language support is limited.
Desktops and the menus are not translated as for Luci.
(LupQ has desktop/menu translations.)

[playdayz]

I don't know what kind of changes were made between 239 and 242,

The main thing was a new Woof with luci-240.

[playdayz]

aqualung-0.9b11-Lucid (needed libmpcdec3_1.2.2)
It still did?

[James C]

Should Geweled that ttuuxxx made replace one or two of the games already in the iso? Which ones?

The only games I play are Geweled and Solitaire.........

[playdayz]

Barry has recently made a great deal of modification in woof regarding loading the main sfs and saving/loading pupsave.
It has some improvement such as warning upgrading pupsave, etc.

Yes. It was a month between Woof's--with a lot of development. We're doing nothing much from now on except fixing bugs, so if there are some from Woof I hope we get them. Barry is also working on them--he sent me one today for PPM.

[playdayz]

i686-ffmpeg-libraries-5.2_lucid

tubeguy, The ffmpeg libraries in luci-242 are better than these (or the same ones)--they are now included in the iso again.

[shinobar]

I don't know what's going on. Everything is fine, no errors come up, it copies to RAM and then the graphical desktop appears for a split second before dying. I've tried multiple times -- one time I even heard a "woof!" but it dropped right back to the prompt and NOTHING the xorgwizard could do to fix it.

It seems special case, but i had a similar experience with Qemu virtual machine.
It seems dying at the firstrun coming up.

Check the md5sum first.

1. Try 'pfix=nox'.
2. Type: xorgwizard
3. choose vesa.
4. xwin

See what happens?

If it does not show any change,

1. again 'pfix=nox'.
2. Type: poweroff
3. Create lucisave.
4. again 'pfix=nox'.
5. Type:xorgwizard
6. choose vesa.
7. xwin

[gabe]

I got it to install by repeatedly booting up until it finally worked. One thing that helped was creating a pupsave file after it crashed.

My suspicion: the USB is temporarily unmounted or remounted, and during the time it isn't mounted the system tries to read from it and fails right after reaching the graphical desktop.

The new woof: I hate to say this (and I'll be quite happy if I'm wrong [edit]It appears I am--Woof is fresh from the development phase and hasn't even hit the bugfix stage yet[/edit]), but the woofs have been getting progressively worse in nearly all noticeable respects. I thought that puppy was trying to cater to general-case end-users, but it seems either this is not the case anymore or BarryK has fallen far out-of-touch with the userbase. It's already useless to most users that there is "binary compatibility with Ubuntu" because the package manager doesn't use it anyway. Not only that, the huge ISO size caused problems with low-ram computers, the sfs had to be split in two (this might be causing the boot problem I mentioned -- the 21MB sfs32948y23942343297.sfs or whatever can't be read because the system unmounts the usb stick), and bugs are not only diminishing but are actually accumulating!

JWM (the only alternative for low-ram computers like my 256MB) is getting worse at responding to any con

[Computer just quit to prompt. I rebooted and started Firefox, and all the above remained in the window.]

...configuration attempts. If I understood how the menu configuration was established, I'd love to help fix it. Does BarryK know about this?

There are a lot of random reboots -- is there a log file I can check to see what happened when X failed? I'd love to do something like "nano /etc/X11/xorg.log.0 or whatnot, but I can't find it. In that vain, where's the kernel log stored?

But the above appears to be my problem. The general problems are the bundling all these random programs with the system that simply do not work. Fbpanel config, JWM configuration, etc are the main culprits.

Now that we're in feature freeze, let's get cracking. Let me know what I can do, and how (e.g. provide such and such log, such and such dump, test such and such, use this pet, etc).

Thanks for the release! It took a lot of frustrating attempts to get running on the Inspiron 2400. If it helps any to stir developer interest, I do believe this is among the most common systems sold on ebay (and elsewhere) in the "cheap desktop" category, so mine is no corner case. It's a clean setup too, so my config probably isn't at fault.

[Lobster]

I'd like to express congrats to Playdayz, all the developers and testers coming up to this stage. Luci-242 has big progress from the Lucu-511

ain't it the truth? (that means yes!)
In 242, updated wiki, running from DVD

It asks me about
'utf encoding' on first set up . . .
What is that? Do I need it? Do I need a help file (yes please)?
I can not remember what that is - something to do with locales
OK I clicked it anyway

ethernet not auto - wot? Have to click a button to connect to Ethernet?
OK managed that

Firewall not on? Why would I not want the firewall on as default?

Crystal graphics ATI driver in Quickpet
giving scribus, blender and other weird options?
Que?

Downloaded Firefox beta 7
and found it uses some weird 'synch bookmarks'
which is bookmarks in cloud - no thank you - I control my bookmarks not Firefox management - I at least want the option - removed Firefox
Using the beta of Seamonkey

sound seem ok

Did this ppm improvement pet get into this version or should I install?
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 750#473966

thanks guys

Puppy Linux
Owned by Users

[playdayz]

Did this ppm improvement pet get into this version or should I install?

No, it did not. I saw the message right after I finished posting luci-242 ;-(

ethernet not auto - wot? Have to click a button to connect to Ethernet?
OK managed that Shocked

Wired ethernet should have been automatic. For wireless the Simple Network setup should pop up. Did SNS popup with wired Ethernet?

[gabe]

Another issue:

System becomes very unresponsive and shows this (see screenshot) after installing VLC and others. After about 3 minutes of stalling like this, I finally get the report that a dependency check has found no missing dependencies for this statically-compiled program!

[shinobar]

I got it to install by repeatedly booting up until it finally worked. One thing that helped was creating a pupsave file after it crashed.

You may have RAM size problem.
What size of RAM your PC has?
You are right if you are saying Puppy-5.x are not friendly with 256MB RAM PC.

As you know running Puppy on PC with RAM less than 256MB has some difficulty.
You may wonder to here 'the PC with RAM equal to 256MB has more difficulty', but it is true.

Do you have swap partitions?
If not, make a swapfile.
512MB is better for Puppy-5.x:
Assuming /mnt/home has enough room.
After saving pupsave, on the terminal(virtual or real console):

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dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/home/pupswap.swp bs=1048576 count=512
mkswap /mnt/home/pupswap.swp

EDIT: It isn't enabled as the swap for me. What happens?
EDIT2: mkswap command needed.

[gabe]

I got it to install by repeatedly booting up until it finally worked. One thing that helped was creating a pupsave file after it crashed.

You may have RAM size problem.
What size of RAM your PC has?
You are right if you are saying Puppy-5.x are not friendly with 256MB RAM PC.

As you know running Puppy on PC with RAM less than 256MB has some difficulty.
You may wonder to here 'the PC with RAM equal to 256MB has more difficulty', but it is true.

Do you have swap partitions?
If not, make a swapfile.
512MB is better for Puppy-5.x:
Recommend booting with 'pfix=ram' boot option, and use stable Puppy.
Assuming sda1 has enough room.

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dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/sda1/pupswap.swp bs=1048576 count=512

It has 256MB. htop shows about 240MB. I have intel graphics with shared RAM I think (maybe that's why htop shows only 240MB?).

I have a 998MB swap partition at /dev/sda3, but it is never used. I've never seen puppy write a single byte to the swapfile, even though it says "Using swap at /dev/sda3" at bootup. Should I make a pupswap.swp anyway?

[shinobar]

I have a 998MB swap partition at /dev/sda3, but it is never used. I've never seen puppy write a single byte to the swapfile, even though it says "Using swap at /dev/sda3" at bootup.

The message seems alright.
But type the 'free' command to confirm:

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free

Or 'Htop' may show...
It is strange if the swap is not used on a 256MB RAM PC.

[Lobster]

Did SNS popup with wired Ethernet?

Yes it did - used that

Just been using pidgin that seems OK
Bacon now available in devx - hooray
Changed to JWM - is Openbox gonna be dropped or not?
installed wbar, GoogleEarth
Can not report on Seamonkey yet - but went for the latest



Puppy Linux
The Best a Penguin can get

[DaveS]

242, acer laptop, HDA Intel sound. 242 boots with sound muted. But then, so do all the other Lucid versions

[gabe]

I have a 998MB swap partition at /dev/sda3, but it is never used. I've never seen puppy write a single byte to the swapfile, even though it says "Using swap at /dev/sda3" at bootup.

The message seems alright.
But type the 'free' command to confirm:

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free

Or 'Htop' may show...
It is strange if the swap is not used on a 256MB RAM PC.

Htop shows 0/998MB used in the swap. It also shows RAM filling up rapidly.

[Brown Mouse]

Could the heading of this thread be changed to reflect which Luci is currently in test please-it's getting confusing unless one is following all the posts.

Sound still muted at every boot here.

[sm6lod]

Booted with pfix=ram with adsl connection.
Works OK. Still red cross on sound icon, but sound OK.
There is no browser in the menu, unless you download one. So no Welcome message as in Midori before.
Tried 242 on the laptop. Same result as with main pc.
But still no wireless connection.
I had it working working with 237 for a couple of weeks, but when I upgraded to 240 using the old pupsave file on the harddisk it fails to connect.
I had the same problem with 511, but then it suddenly started to work. I have no idea what I did, except restarted the dlink wireless router a few times.
It recognises that I have Atheros wireless built into the laptop, but cannot find the network. I have tried installing ath5k and pwireless2 to no avail.
I do get a wireless connection if I run in Virtual Box.

[tubeguy]

aqualung-0.9b11-Lucid (needed libmpcdec3_1.2.2)
It still did?

Yeah, I think mpcdec6 was present already but Aqualung wants 3. No biggie, I don't think anyone cares about Aqualung.