Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18

[Lobster]

In 239

I go to big town to buy a statue of Guan Yin? Amida Buddha female counter part.

Wow. I have a statue from my grandmother. Chanting the Amida Buddha mantra is one of the quickest ways of getting to a euphoric state, without using Puppy or unauthorised medication . . .
Make sure you do a puja for me - I need all the help I can get . . .
Kwan Yin is a development of Tara and Chenrezig or the earlier Durga and Avalokiteshvara.
Getting a statue is as much use as getting a chicken without praying to it.
Churches in England often have chicken ('roosters') on them as they supplanted an earlier Colonel Sanders type cult.
Amida is one of the simplest practices - you can just chant the name
and find improvements
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amit%C4%81bha
Good luck Nooby.
I will start a thread on Buddhism in the totally off topic section to offer further insight on chicken worshiping . . .
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 929#470929

Larry - why not use CD-RW or the faster DVD-RW if your machine has the option?
You should get 100 rewrites out of one disk . . .

Pidgin: My proposal is that we configure pidgin with a generic login to IRC #puppylinux--say, newpuppyuser, so that when people on the channel see that logon they will be on their best behavior.

Sounds good to me

Have updated wiki to 239 (hope there are no mistakes)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy52

[01micko]

bigpup

This patch should fix your nvidia detection issue.. I just hope it doesn't break the test for anyone else.

Cheers

[playdayz]

In Menu>system
You have both versions of Grub bootloader config.
Grub bootloader config
Grub4dos bootloader config

If Grub4dos is working so well do you need to have Grub bootloader config?

I think we do yes. Grub bootloader config is well-tried and tested. Grub4dos is still under what I would call initial development; for instance, it has been changed in last two luci versions. I should not say initial development, rather just development. Version 1.6.3 is on the way.

[bigpup]

bigpup

This patch should fix your nvidia detection issue.. I just hope it doesn't break the test for anyone else.

Cheers

Installed patch. no change. Still recommends xorg-high driver.

[bigpup]

In Menu>system
You have both versions of Grub bootloader config.
Grub bootloader config
Grub4dos bootloader config

If Grub4dos is working so well do you need to have Grub bootloader config?

I think we do yes. Grub bootloader config is well-tried and tested. Grub4dos is still under what I would call initial development; for instance, it has been changed in last two luci versions.

What problems are people having with Grub4dos? Seems to be working fine now.
Anyone try it and not getting good results?

[James C]

Fresh frugal install of Luci-239 on the old P3 test box.evrything good on initial boot.......only had to change the time zone.Installed Xorg_High and Firefox 4.0 b7, did a bit of testing then installed VLC.

Ran all of my audio and video formats through MPlayer.......no problems, even fullscreen was fine on this old box. Only problem here is that I ate too much today.......

Back in a few from KDE.....

[shinobar]

I believe the Grub4DosConfig is already the killer over Grub legacy.
But as you know, still stable is Grub4DosConfig v1.5.3, and the v1.6.x series is on going with Puppy 5.x era.

Current v1.6.2 does not detect most recent Quirky's simple file names. Other than that it works well.
The new version v1.6.3, which supports simple file names and more improved, is now in my PC.
Wait for a couple of days before the release. I am proceeding local test.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

[James C]

In Menu>system
You have both versions of Grub bootloader config.
Grub bootloader config
Grub4dos bootloader config

If Grub4dos is working so well do you need to have Grub bootloader config?

I think we do yes. Grub bootloader config is well-tried and tested. Grub4dos is still under what I would call initial development; for instance, it has been changed in last two luci versions.

FWIW, I agree.Already several problems reported here in the forum and Barry's blog.No sense replacing something that works with something still in development.Legacy grub works so.....
By the way, I'd prefer Grub4dos over Grub 2........ Grub 2 is an adventure.....you never have any idea whether and given install will boot...

[01micko]

bigpup

thanks for bearing with me,

try this and please post output of the terminal (copy > middle click to paste to term, for those who don't know )

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 VIDEODETAILS="`lspci -nn -m | grep 'VGA compatible controller'`";  DEVICEID="`echo -n "$VIDEODETAILS" |cut -f 6 -d '"' | rev | cut -f 2 -d ']' | cut -f 1 -d '[' | rev`" ; echo $DEVICEID

Cheers

[James C]

A second frugal install on the old test box, this one with Trinity/KDE.

WM Switcher changes between Openbox,JWM and KDE without incident.As far as I can tell, all of the Luci apps operate fine while in KDE too.

[bigpup]

In Menu>system
You have both versions of Grub bootloader config.
Grub bootloader config
Grub4dos bootloader config

If Grub4dos is working so well do you need to have Grub bootloader config?

I think we do yes. Grub bootloader config is well-tried and tested. Grub4dos is still under what I would call initial development; for instance, it has been changed in last two luci versions.

FWIW, I agree.Already several problems reported here in the forum and Barry's blog.No sense replacing something that works with something still in development.Legacy grub works so.....
By the way, I'd prefer Grub4dos over Grub 2........ Grub 2 is an adventure.....you never have any idea whether and given install will boot...

I believe the Grub4DosConfig is already the killer over Grub legacy.
But as you know, still stable is Grub4DosConfig v1.5.3, and the v1.6.x series is on going with Puppy 5.x era.

Current v1.6.2 does not detect most recent Quirky's simple file names. Other than that it works well.
The new version v1.6.3, which supports simple file names and more improved, is now in my PC.
Wait for a couple of days before the release. I am proceeding local test.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

Quirky is cutting edge, bleeding, throw stuff out there, see what works.
I thought this was about what works with Lucid Puppy? Still not finished also.
For Lucid Puppy, Grub4dos seems to work fine. Is it suppose to work for any of the off the wall setups or just for what is in a normal install of Lucid Puppy?
Things to think about.

[bigpup]

bigpup

thanks for bearing with me,

try this and please post output of the terminal (copy > middle click to paste to term, for those who don't know )

Code: Select all

 VIDEODETAILS="`lspci -nn -m | grep 'VGA compatible controller'`";  DEVICEID="`echo -n "$VIDEODETAILS" |cut -f 6 -d '"' | rev | cut -f 2 -d ']' | cut -f 1 -d '[' | rev`" ; echo $DEVICEID

Cheers

# VIDEODETAILS="`lspci -nn -m | grep 'VGA compatible controller'`"; DEVICEID="`echo -n "$VIDEODETAILS" |cut -f 6 -d '"' | rev | cut -f 2 -d ']' | cut -f 1 -d '[' | rev`" ; echo $DEVICEID
00fd
#

[01micko]

A note..

Now that retrovol is fixed for transparency it probably should now be started in /root/Startup. James' trinity shot jogged my memory. All that ridiculous stuff in /usr/sbin/delayed run is conditional of the old retrovol pre version 0.10, and it was only for icewm and jwm,

eg

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#!/bin/sh
retrovol -hide &

That's it. No more '-bg' parameter. Fortunately pizzasgood thought ahead and the new retrovol just ignores that param instead of throwing an error. This could also significantly boost startup speeds on old clunky machines. It would also allow retrovol to run ok in kde.

Cheers

[01micko]

thanks again bigpup..

I got a database from nvidia site and your card is not in it!!!!

Can you just confirm (or deny) that you can use the 260 driver? (latest one). then I'll add it and it will be in the next version.

Cheers

[Lobster]

I did an upgrade from 238 and the boot up help was very useful.
It told me what it was doing - did I want to add new files to HD to boot up etc

Tried pidgin, worked very well with IRC
I tried opening 3 quickpets and installing 3 programs simultaneously
- ahem - do not try this at home.
One of the packages was the crystal ATI and I ended up with a black screen.

Barry seems near to Quirky 1.4 and Woof release so more likely to test stuff then.
One thing that always gets me . . .
In Openshot if you double click on a title bar the program does not maximise
I believe the settings can be altered but can they be set as default.?
The trick is to set the time from 200ms to 400ms in the openbox window mannager config in the menu - is there a corresponding config text file? - think I asked this already . . .
Just because of this small detail I change to JWM
Mind you JWM does have right click icons.

Is Openbox more stable for more users?
why is it the default?
Users on IRC are saying JWM is faster . . .

I am so pleased Ttuuxxx and so many others are helping with Lucid.
It has a good feel to it
but then it is our Puppy

Also do read and try Playdayz list of things to test
Feedback is key - sorry I have little to report.

It is getting good

Puppy Lucid
Tested on Geeks

[Sylvander]

TROUBLE with Luci-239!

1. Booted the new Luci-239-SCSI CD, and chose to use the lucisave in the partition on my USB Flash Drive.

2. Updating 238 to 239 took place and completed OK.

3. Once into the desktop, noticed the firewallstate icon showed the firewall OFF...
And also there was no connection to the internet.
Tried to connect, but Network Wizard was unable to see the NIC = ETH0 [normally it would].

4. Apparently...
/etc/modprobe.conf
Needed to be in...
/etc/modprobe.d
So I moved it there, and symlinked back.
But that didn't produce a fix.

5. /lib/modules/2.6.33.2/kernel/drivers/net/natsemi.ko
Couldn't be seen, after I'd chosen to load module:
natsemi dp8381x

6. Powered off to avoid saving the changes, and changes the SFS file back to the 238 version.
I'm about to try booting that.
Here's hoping there are no problems.

[Brown Mouse]

Something has been changed with regard to viewing .jpg files.
In previous versions,it was possible to see a preview of any .jpg before opening it.

[dejan555]

So I guess they changed automatic thumbnail previews option.
You can right click eye icon in rox or turn on thumbnails in rox options under thumbnails tab.

[ttuuxxx]

latest Asunder
ttuuxxx

[Brown Mouse]

So I guess they changed automatic thumbnail previews option.
You can right click eye icon in rox or turn on thumbnails in rox options under thumbnails tab.

Thanks dejan555,that was an easy fix from 'rox options'.
I think it might be a good idea if 'turn on thumbnails' was made default setting.