4.3.2-SCSI 2.6.30.5 full older modem support

[ttuuxxx]

Hi guys V2 brings a new GTK2 to 4 series:) but first the bad


first up I updated Seamonkey1 to the latest Seamonkey 2 with the latest gtk2 , but Its been sometime that I've updated Seamonkey from series 1 to and I forgot it no longer uses gtkmoz so the printing is broken and the Help Browser is broken, but below there is a pet to fix it. , I'll fix it for the next release its almost 5am Christmas eve and I haven't slept, I've been at it all night. (week also)
This is a partial list of updates
seamonkey-2.0.11
atk-1.32.0-i386
gdk-pixbuf-2.22.1-i386 <--new to 4 series
glib-2.26.1-i386
gtk+-2.22.1-i386
hunspell-1.2.11-i386 <-- new to 4 series
jpeg-7-i386 <-- new to 4 series
libXcomposite-16ae68-i386 <-- new to 4 series
pcre-8.11-i386
net_setnet_setup.up.
pburn.
pcd.
pmusic.
powerapplet.
pschedule.
usb-modeswitch.
This release was difficult because other woof releases I just added or edit files in the rootfs-complete folder, which is a lazy way and you can't give the updated files to rebuild on another pc. This time I did it the correct woof method by editing all the files, man that takes some learning.
anyways enjoy and Merry Christmas
and I'll upload the devx later on. Too tired now
ttuuxxx

Main iso
md5sum 80cf8c3fcf7f2ccb38275ee7964a681e
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/4.3/002 ... SI-002.iso

DevX
md5sum 2fd2e3e83415de669bd14d0e66ae731c
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/4.3/002/devx.sfs



V1 <--- First Release
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/4.3/pup ... SI-001.iso
md5sum 13fac6628135ccc0189df1c0fe9e54ca

DevX
http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/4.3/devx_432.sfs
md5sum 68846fb1590391d3baed032fe7213f31

Well this is the default 4.3.2 build, I used barry's latest compile of 2.6.30.5 date sept4,2010 http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01796

Known issues
trayapplet package wasn't found
flash block and seamonkey_addon_user_agent_switcher wasn't included either.

everything else looks like it runs fine
ttuuxxx

LVM
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 667#483667

[tlchost]

Known issues
xvesa doesn't work
ttuuxxx

Well, ya did the testing for me....as with the last effort, Xyesa not working is a deal breaker. Based on your previous posts, I thought you said Xvesa would be one of the first things fixed.

Thom

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Thom boy your quick to jump, lol Listen Its just a first release of a default woof puppy4, Thats the way it comes, now with some help from the masses we can get this version working properly, also the NV and ATI drivers are working fine which is also nice
still needs more testing and lots of updates, so lets get to it shall we?
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

also Seamonkey is a lot quicker on this version than the last one.

[ttuuxxx]

added the devx to the main post

[ttuuxxx]

Vesa works but Xvesa doesn't, I've compiled Xvesa now but its the gui which isn't loading now, when selected. Still working on it
ttuuxxx

[scsijon]

Vesa works but Xvesa doesn't, I've compiled Xvesa now but its the gui which isn't loading now, when selected. Still working on it
ttuuxxx

I prefer true vesa actually, a number of old box/monitor combinations of mine won't xvesa easily and only give 800x600@60hz with xorg while true vesa (60hz only) will allow 1280x1024.

downloading now

first level of testing (video and the like; and basic install) tomorrow am. see what I can break. 4 boxes with 4 different config's. Will report late pm.

Anything special to test or look out for ttuuxxx?

Also can you consider a bones version when you finally release please.

regards
scsijon

[ttuuxxx]

Hmmm I just rebooted fresh and Xvesa worked, I wonder why it wouldn't work earlier, maybe it was loading a pupsave, well That's a good thing, too bad I just spent 2 hr compiling Xserver grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Also can you consider a bones version when you finally release please.

regards
scsijon

How about I just make pet packages and post links
I usually build woof the lazy way,
First make a release
Second make changes in the /woof-tree/woof-tree/rootfs-skeleton folder just add the new files and delete the old ones in the pet folders.
I should do it the right way, I'll think about it.
I don't have a clue what needs checking, it all runs nicely.
any ideas of what apps you would like to see in it?
lxtask,gaculator,htop etc
ttuuxxx

[tlchost]

Also can you consider a bones version when you finally release please.

regards
scsijon

How about I just make pet packages and post links

Downloading now....and the bones version with your offer of pets would go a long ways towards keeping the bloat down.

Thom

[ttuuxxx]

hmmm I don't see flashplayer anywhere either, that's strange it didn't complain about it being missing during the build, I'll check the build files.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

nope no flash, that bites, It'll increase the iso size by 2-3MB alone. grrr
ttuuxxx

[scsijon]

wierd, duplicate post 30 min apart?

[scsijon]

nope no flash, that bites, It'll increase the iso size by 2-3MB alone. grrr
ttuuxxx

didn't I see a flashlite.pet out there somewhere today, should be smaller.

scsijon

[scsijon]

Easy, anything that can be a .pet, should be.

Exceptions would be in the desktop, system, setup, utility, filesystems, network and internet directories, but bare minimum of all.

Do you want an actual list or does the above give you enough?

scsijon

[tlchost]

Hmmm I just rebooted fresh and Xvesa worked, I wonder why it wouldn't work earlier, maybe it was loading a pupsave, well That's a good thing, too bad I just spent 2 hr compiling Xserver grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
ttuuxxx

Perhaps I should not be testing....here's what happens

xorg probe gives various choices....picking 12?? by 10?? gives me 16?? by ?? But then, I can use xvesa to chose something that works.

Seamonkey works once with shoutcast.com....subsequent tries result in no audio.

Will not shut down...

With that many problems, I didn't go any further

Thom

[ttuuxxx]

Hmmm I just rebooted fresh and Xvesa worked, I wonder why it wouldn't work earlier, maybe it was loading a pupsave, well That's a good thing, too bad I just spent 2 hr compiling Xserver grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
ttuuxxx

Perhaps I should not be testing....here's what happens

xorg probe gives various choices....picking 12?? by 10?? gives me 16?? by ?? But then, I can use xvesa to chose something that works.

Seamonkey works once with shoutcast.com....subsequent tries result in no audio.

Will not shut down...

With that many problems, I didn't go any further

Thom

The only thing that I find broken now is the audio, my pc shutdown fine with xorg and Xvesa, plus the choosing the resolution works fine on my pc also, which is the normal xorg driver you use? That could be the issue for both things shutdown and display. If I knew which driver regular puppies work for you, I could compile it.
I'll work on alsa for now
ttuuxxx

[Stripe]

Hi all

clean frugal install, no problem apart from the xvesa one that has been mentioned. I am getting top quality video and sound

Downloaded htop-0.8.1-i486-uj with ppm from the puppy 5 official list.
(did the same to 431 to make some comparisons)

432 will recognise and use a twin core chip, 431 just recognises it and uses it as a single chip.

Just got a few numbers to see how heavier 432 is on resources

using the free comand in terminal (memory used)

Action 431 432 change % rise
at rest 301168 325188 = 24020 = 7.9%
playing 8.7mb mp4 345308 379924 = 34616 = 10.0%
playing 103mb HDmp4 406172 450467 = 44295 = 10.9%

using Htop (mem)

Action 431 432 change % rise
at rest 35 44 = 9 = 25%
playing 8.7mb mp4 63 81 = 18 = 28%
playing 103mb HDmp4 76 94 = 18 = 23%

Edited to say: sorry about the figures it was a table when It was submited honest.

I am just trying to get an idea of the differences in changing the kernel.

More importantly how does 432 perform on older hardware that was happily using 431 (apart from the bugs)

Hope this helps
Stripe

[James C]

Just finished downloading and burning 4.5.2-scsi (2.6.30.5).........be doing some testing in a few....

[James C]

Hi all

clean frugal install, no problem apart from the xvesa one that has been mentioned. I am getting top quality video and sound

Downloaded htop-0.8.1-i486-uj with ppm from the puppy 5 official list.
(did the same to 431 to make some comparisons)

432 will recognise and use a twin core chip, 431 just recognises it and uses it as a single chip.

Just got a few numbers to see how heavier 432 is on resources

using the free comand in terminal (memory used)

Action 431 432 change % rise
at rest 301168 325188 = 24020 = 7.9%
playing 8.7mb mp4 345308 379924 = 34616 = 10.0%
playing 103mb HDmp4 406172 450467 = 44295 = 10.9%

using Htop (mem)

Action 431 432 change % rise
at rest 35 44 = 9 = 25%
playing 8.7mb mp4 63 81 = 18 = 28%
playing 103mb HDmp4 76 94 = 18 = 23%

Edited to say: sorry about the figures it was a table when It was submited honest.

I am just trying to get an idea of the differences in changing the kernel.

More importantly how does 432 perform on older hardware that was happily using 431 (apart from the bugs)

Hope this helps
Stripe

I'm not sure which version of 4.31 you're using for the comparison(4.30/4.31 had 3 or 4 different kernels available) but the default 4.31 kernel 2.6.30.5 was smp enabled and recognized and uses both cores of a dual-core.At least on my equipment.

Kernels available were.........pup-431-k2.6.21.7-scsi-intel_modems
pup-431-k2.6.25.16-intel_modems
pup-431-scsi-intel_modems.iso