Puppy Squeeze 009 Development

[Iguleder]

I noticed this in 003, I could report this but the fact I'm an idiot and total failure makes my reports not so reliable

For some reason Seamonkey is really really fast and all the traditional XUL quirks are gone for some reason. They interface is really smooth and no tearing.

So ... should we make an Opera pet and switch or we keep Seamonkey? My vote goes to Seamonkey.

[Lobster]

I have been watching video and happily surfing
and using Seamonkey . . .

thumbs up from me too

[DaveS]

I installed Opera 10.62 as I find it usually faster and more responsive than other browsers. Not in squeeze, Monkey is blowing its' socks off. I hated to say that as I really like speed dial and other aspects of Opera. That could just be due to familiarity but has anyone else noticed a difference?

For what is worth, I recently switched from Firefox to Seamonkey in Lucid as it runs faster. Maybe they have found more performance but kept it quiet...........

[don570]

version 004 still has problem with Abiword so I decided to make
a pet package using alien2puppy.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... db9e35527e

I took two files

abiword_2.8.6-0u1~ppa1_i386.deb
libabiword-2.8_2.8.6-0u1~ppa1_i386.deb

and dragged to a empty folder.
Then I proceeded with the command...

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alien2puppy -p abiword-lupu-2.8.6

I made the smallest abiword that I have ever made at 3.8 meg .
Most of the features work including spell check.

Note: I named the desktop file Abiword-wordprocessor.desktop
to duplicate the one in Squeeze.

download here
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-0d097d05.html



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[Iguleder]

No need for a PET, but I really appreciate that, I really really do

I'll just make Woof pull the latest abiword and libabiword from the Debian repos each time it builds a dpup and the problem is solved. Let's hope it doesn't pull in any extra dependencies or bloat...

[Iguleder]

*idiotic double post*

[DaveS]

Check out Seamonkey 2.1 alfa. Very solid, incredibly fast, bit of a question mark over Flash performance. I feel even at this early stage it out performs 2.0.8.

[Billtoo]

Billtoo: to make pet. From seamonkey source dir:

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mkdir /root/seamonkey-208
make install DESTDIR=/root/seamonkey-208
cd /root
dir2pet seamonkey-208

I created a tar file with all the files and directories in it
"seamonkey-2.0.8.tar.gz" and you need to create a directory to expand
it in and after the files are extracted to the directory that you
created you enter the directory and click on the seamonkey file to start seamonkey.
Or drag the seamonkey file to the desktop and click on it.

That's not according to hoyle I know, but it works.

The seamonkey-2.0.8.tar.gz is 19 mb and once it's expanded the new
directory size is 44 mb.

I tried creating a pet the other ways and I made one that would work
on lucid and not 004 and I gave up for now anyway.

edit: I found a nice icon for seamonkey on the google

[DaveS]

2.1 comes in at 44mb too.

[dr-kart]

On my ~2 years old laptop I tried:
Mint 9 isadora liveCD
Ubuntu 10.04 liveCD
Puppy 5.1 and 5.1.1

All of it FREEZED (in 1-10 seconds after X started) while working on battery. On AC power worked ok.

But dpup-004 is working normal even on battery!
That's why I still use dpup-004. The only problem - no sound. (I got HDA intel ATi SB)

[ttuuxxx]

For the people finding dpup faster with Seamonkey / Firefox, This relates back to the First Dpup put together by tronkel, Also when Barry decided to go with development of UpupJ for his main woof build, I noticed the Dpup was way faster with Firefox response times and tried to push for Dpup to be the main woof build but it went on deaf ears. Now Dpup is back and once again the mozilla base browser are out performing the other woof builds once again. Great news for Dpup. and good job!
ttuuxxx

[dejan555]

@ dr-kart
Thats good news then dpup has something magical

Have you tried alsa sound wizard from setup menu yet?

[Stripe]

Hi all

Its looking very good indeed and you have given me a new must have program "DeadBeef" the sound quality with my old SBlive card is unbelivable.
I even made my first pet out of it for lucid (compiled from src, 59mb installed and all the menu entries had to be enterd manualy, but its a start)
Keep up the good work everybody,

Stripe

[stu90]

Tried the lupu wbar.pet but it doesn't work on squeeze soi made a .pet of the .deb version in PPM - there is no GUI like the puppy version so you have to edit the configuration manually.

icons go in:
/usr/share/wbar/iconpack/wbar.osx

application / icon config file:
/usr/share/wbar/dot.wbar

Position / zoom / icon size etc config:
/root/wbar.on

i added on / off scripts in:
/root.



http://www.mediafire.com/file/wdbuuzzpw ... _1.3.3.pet

[chrismt]

@ stu90

You should create a blog or something and link all your pets there because I have a hard time finding those great pets

[Iguleder]

Got some good news:
- The Quirky ffmpeg isn't quirky as the 004 ffmpeg, I think we can switch to it, we'll keep our home-made xine
- dejan555 proposed to make a PET from the static binaries provided on the Seamonkey site; should make Seamonkey even snappier, but could be a 'lil bigger. In 2010 a web browser is almost an independent operating system, so I think it's worth it
Also, we can roll back to the Quirky Seamonkey 2.0.6. It worked just fine ... but I still think we're better try the static Seamonkey approach before we make a decision ... so 005 will probably have a static Seamonkey and if we don't like it we'll roll back to the Quirky one.
- With the information provided in this topic we can figure out how to get a working wbar... let's do it, sounds like a fun experiment to me. I have no idea how wbar works but I'm sure I can learn.

EDIT: forgot something - we need just the browser and mail client and optionally the address book. The Quirky and static PETs will come with the HTML editor, all-in-one. I found out that Geany isn't very good with markup languages, so maybe we have a use for the html editor after all.

[chrismt]

I would love to have Xfce4 on Dpup

[dejan555]

I'm still trying to compile 208 sm though, I think I figured out where the problem is. chrismt maybe you can try 462 xfce pet i made for dpup 484

[Iguleder]

That reminds me an idea I had in mind.

We can replace JWM with xfwm (Xfce's window manager) and fbpanel or lxpanel (the Xfce panels are way heavier, I see a big difference on my netbook). If we do that, we must include the Xfce libraries, that's not justified to include a library (a shared library) if it isn't shared between applications.

If we go for this approach we can replace Pburn with Xfburn and add some Xfce applications ... Orage can replace minixcal and Xfce's control center can be launched through the desktop icon that normally starts the wizard wizard.

Think about it ... it's a good opportunity to solve all JWM bugs and incompatibilities and get rid of the last big gtkdialog application left, Pburn. Pmusic, Pbackup and Pprocess are out already.

[dejan555]

Want me to recompile xfce too or divide dpup build into separate pets for libs and modules?