Puppy Stardust 012

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zigbert · #21 Post by **zigbert** » Mon 01 Mar 2010, 09:34

ttuuxxx wrote:Maybe that I compiled it lol
I didn't check it, where did you get it from ?
ttuuxxx

It could very well be the compiler..... We have seen that before

I grabbed it somewhere on this forum a long time ago.......who knows where

I'll check it out

Thank you!
Sigmund

The Geffez · #22 Post by **The Geffez** » Mon 01 Mar 2010, 12:15

I have a broken hard dive in my MacBook, i cannot be bothered to fix it so i burn Puppy on to a disk and use that, i like to use Stardust (Because it's awesome) but there are many problems (i am using stardust 012 at the moment). a few are:

track pad does'nt work

stardust 012 does'nt like 1 partition on my external hard dive but it likes the other partition, stardust 006 does like both. when i try to open the partition it does'nt like it, the Pmount window opens, i try mounting it there but it just quits.

Stardust does'nt seem to want to be able to run some programs, such as Open Office but other .pets will be fine

If i close the lid to my MacBook whilst running Stardust, i will have to reboot because it does'nt wake from sleep

Stardust 012 always opens dvd's with Gxine but sometimes i need to open a dvd to look at the contents, Stardust 006 is able to open dvd's to see content

I always end up using Gxine to play my music because it has the option to go louder than Pmusic

You could add a keyboard layout for the MacBook (the only diffrance is the " and @ are swapped)

its very hard to know what's what in the Pprocess manager, having apps in a different section to system processes would be nice

You keep removing useful apps, try removing useless apps that dont work such as Pfind (right click - next click - Pfind)

Do you try to keep stardust under 100mb? you cant seem to get a OS to boot from USB, all disks are at least 700mb, dont keep removing apps please...

I love stardust, keep it coming!

p.s. why did you remove Glightoff?

01micko · #23 Post by **01micko** » Mon 01 Mar 2010, 13:17

zigbert wrote:Thank you Mick for the delta-file.

Sigmund

You have no need to thank me ... you already have the iso!

[edit: really thank gposil, and of course russoodle and caneri (and others) for continued hosting of Puppy files. For me, it's about 5 minutes work to make and upload the delta.. er.. a bit longer to create the iso ziggy, so thank you!]

DC · #24 Post by DC » Mon 01 Mar 2010, 17:36

Hi zigbert

This is what I use for numlock called with a script from startup folder

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=15708

look down to leon's post for how to

DC

stu90 · #25 Post by **stu90** » Mon 01 Mar 2010, 17:53

I have copied the files from USB and running Stardust12 frugal install on my HDD with other puppies. Other that wireless being picked up as eth0 (still works and connects ok though) not had any problem

cheers.

timremy · #26 Post by **timremy** » Mon 01 Mar 2010, 23:17

hello nooby

the statement :

Comments version 012
I will encourage all users to NOT use Puppy Stardust, but instead help tecnosaurus with Puppy 4.4

Thank you
Sigmund

does this clear it up for you.

timremy

DC · #27 Post by DC » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 00:36

Hi zigbert,

lameNFSxplorer failing due to "Dependency: rpcinfo unavailable."

this because of missing "nfs_common.tar.gz"

you can find them here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45090

DC

davids45 · #28 Post by **davids45** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 00:47

G'day ziggy,
Just upgraded via the delta to 012. After a short testing, two problems....

1) Desktop drive icons pile up in the right hand bottom corner after sdb5 - my dual hard-drive computer has about 30 drive icons, counting also usb and optical drives. This is instead of forming nice rows as in 4.3.1.

2) For my wine-pet programs, their .desktop files in /usr/share/applications are over-written with incorrect exec paths pointing to /usr/share/sbin. So although the wine programs (eg Excel97, Mailwasher, Legacy6) appear in the Menu, they do not run from the Menu. These programs do run if I drop the original .desktop file (with the correct paths for wine programs, eg exec=wine /root/.wine/c_drive/...etc) ) onto the desktop, but I was hoping to use the Menu as well, to start them up. By wine-pet programs, I mean a pet I have made of the latest wine plus the Windows programs I use in Puppy - it's a very big pet but saves me installing everything separately in new Pups or retroactively in frugals where I convert this pet to the required sfs files.

David S.

Jim1911 · #29 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 01:46

zigbert wrote:- What command/app turns on/off numlock?
- does not the numlock key (on keyboard) work?

Sorry, the command/app to turn NumLock on/off is above my skill level. I usually try to in install the attached .pet which sets NumLock on/off defaults. However, dposil has included in his dpup a First Start Wizard with an option to turn NumLock on that works great and a similar feature could probably be used with Stardust and Puppy 4.4CE.

NumLock key works fine, however, at my age, sometimes I forget to activate it, and it's messy when I use the number key pad. In my opinion, the default should always be on, however, that creates problems for laptop users, although there are probably more desktop users that have full keyboards and want NumLock on.

Thanks for considering this change,
Jim

zigbert · #30 Post by **zigbert** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:01

davids45 wrote:1) Desktop drive icons pile up in the right hand bottom corner after sdb5 - my dual hard-drive computer has about 30 drive icons, counting also usb and optical drives. This is instead of forming nice rows as in 4.3.1.

I think this is because Stardust has enabled grid/snap in the rox-pinboard. You can manually change this in the rox-options. Probably, you must also remove the drive-icons in the globicons file to get new icon-alignment. This problem is annoying. - drive-icons works mostly ok WITH snapping, but some gets misplaced icons. This will hopefully be fixed (some day).......

davids45 wrote:2) For my wine-pet programs, their .desktop files in /usr/share/applications are over-written with incorrect exec paths pointing to /usr/share/sbin.

Please confirm that this happened in Stardust 012 and not an earlier release. This should have been fixed by now, but I have not tested wine-apps in particular

Sigmund

zigbert · #31 Post by **zigbert** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:07

DC wrote:Hi zigbert,

lameNFSxplorer failing due to "Dependency: rpcinfo unavailable."

this because of missing "nfs_common.tar.gz"

you can find them here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45090

DC

I see......lameNFSxplorer has become somewhat fat, and I'm thinking of remove it from the iso. - at least until we see a stable release.
-lameNFSxplorer (23kb)
-nfs-rpc-utlis (188kb)
-nfs_common.tar.gz (158kb)

Sigmund

zigbert · #32 Post by **zigbert** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 08:33

Thank for numlock information

mawebb88 · #33 Post by **mawebb88** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 12:19

zigbert wrote:
DC wrote:Hi zigbert,

lameNFSxplorer failing due to "Dependency: rpcinfo unavailable."

this because of missing "nfs_common.tar.gz"

you can find them here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45090

DC
I see......lameNFSxplorer has become somewhat fat, and I'm thinking of remove it from the iso. - at least until we see a stable release.
-lameNFSxplorer (23kb)
-nfs-rpc-utlis (188kb)
-nfs_common.tar.gz (158kb)

Sigmund

@Sigmund: Your Removing lameNFSxplorer proposal- has my vote

pNethood works fine for me whereas lameNFSxplorer is random at the moment (at least in my tests)

Please note that the patched version of pNethood pnethood-0.65-utf8.pet (by BarryK) is the best:as this fixes a CIFs problem (as in 431 which Stardust is based on in any case).

Rgds Mike

Jim1911 · #34 Post by **Jim1911** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 20:26

Please provide some brief instructions as to how to use the edit tray feature.

Also, what directory does the drop down menu for programs point, I'd like to add to the available programs? (Disregard, found it in /usr/share/stardust/bin)
Thanks,
Jim

Patriot · #35 Post by **Patriot** » Tue 02 Mar 2010, 21:40

Hmmm .....

Wowzer ... stardust now at 12 ? .... really, zigbert, how am I gonna cope ?

...... and I'm sorry zigbert as I've been really busy the past week or so ... couldn't tinker much with puppy stuffs ...

Anyway, I'd like to highlight that rpcinfo is missing from the official puppy 4.31 but is available on all puppy 4 series upto 4.30 ... So, only the rpcinfo needs to be copied to the puppy 4.31 base from any puppy 4 series ... (I also post a copy of rpcinfo on lameNFSxplorer thread).

The latest lameNFSxplorer is now reduced to 14KB (fping not required anymore). You should also install either nfs-rpc-utils or nfs-common.tar.gz but not both ... they consists of the same utils (plus minus a few things) ...

Best wishes on your Stardust experiments ...

Rgds

davids45 · #36 Post by **davids45** » Wed 03 Mar 2010, 02:09

G'day Zigbert,

Thanks for the response to my two problems with Stardust 012.
I'll check out the icons advice tonight after I get home from orienteering this afternoon.

Further to the wine programs not running from the Menu, I checked my frugal Stardust 012 where the wine+programs are used from a sfs4 file (created from the pet) and the menu runs the programs.
So I have problems only with the full install and installing wine+programs from my pet.

Again, I'll look into this with your posted advice.

David S.

zigbert · #37 Post by **zigbert** » Wed 03 Mar 2010, 10:29

davids45 wrote:I'll check out the icons advice tonight after I get home from orienteering this afternoon.

Then you probably run Ocad in wine as well (I do, and it runs just fine). 2 months left until the snow is gone, and I can dig in my summer-stuff for my compass.

I should be said that skiing is one of the meanings of life, so winter is as good as the rest of the seasons.

Back to your wine trouble. You say that you upgraded via the delta file to Stardust 012, but you didn't tell if you kept your pup_save.sfs or if Stardust 012 is started without any pup_save,sfs. This is important, because an old pup_save.sfs will keep the buggy files in /usr/share/stardust/bin/* during upgrade.

Sigmund

zigbert · #38 Post by **zigbert** » Wed 03 Mar 2010, 10:31

Patriot
Thank you for helping out. I will upgrade lameNFSxplorer

Sigmund

zigbert · #39 Post by **zigbert** » Wed 03 Mar 2010, 10:33

Jim1911 wrote:Please provide some brief instructions as to how to use the edit tray feature.

Yes, Ptray should contain some help information. I'll put in onto my todo-list, but the absolute best solution would be that someone with english as their native language wrote this.

Sigmund

davids45 · #40 Post by **davids45** » Wed 03 Mar 2010, 11:06

G'day again,

Back home from the Sydney Summer Series orienteering and using now Stardust012 (full install). Just caught your reply (thank you) - yes, I use Ocad quite happily in wine, but when I want to print a map, I have to switch to XP to use my colour printer (mine's a "doorstop" according to the Linux printers listing.)

Correction to my earlier post: the changed path for the menu .desktop files I'd installed as a wine+programs pet is to:
exec=/usr/share/stardust/bin (not /usr/share/sbin)

In that /stardust/bin directory are files for my Windows programs. On opening these as text I see they include the correct .wine path - see following example - this is the Ocad file:

#this file is generated by /usr/sbin/fixmenus
#the result of the db of app usage is used by /usr/sbin/fixmenus_menuitems to show most used apps in the main menu.

if [ "`grep "wine /root/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files"/Ocad8/ocad.exe" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use`" ]; then #used earlier. - Increase status
NR="`grep "wine /root/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files"/Ocad8/ocad.exe" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use | cut -d "|" -f 1`"
TMP="`grep "wine /root/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files"/Ocad8/ocad.exe" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use | cut -d "|" -f 2-`"
NR_NEW=$(($NR+1))
sed -i "s%$NR|$TMP%$NR_NEW|$TMP%g" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use #increase by 1
else
echo "10001|Ocad8|wine /root/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files"/Ocad8/ocad.exe" >> $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use
fi

wine /root/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files"/Ocad8/ocad.exe

But clicking on these, nothing happens.

The default Wine-Windows programs such as filemanager and the wine version of WordPad do run from the Menu and by clicking the file in /stardust/bin. So the /stardust/bin file below is OK:

#this file is generated by /usr/sbin/fixmenus
#the result of the db of app usage is used by /usr/sbin/fixmenus_menuitems to show most used apps in the main menu.

if [ "`grep "wordpad" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use`" ]; then #used earlier. - Increase status
NR="`grep "wordpad" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use | cut -d "|" -f 1`"
TMP="`grep "wordpad" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use | cut -d "|" -f 2-`"
NR_NEW=$(($NR+1))
sed -i "s%$NR|$TMP%$NR_NEW|$TMP%g" $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use #increase by 1
else
echo "10001|wordpad|wordpad" >> $HOME/.stardust/db_apps_use
fi

wordpad

Could it be something I've done in my Wine+programs pet that upsets the setting up of the /stardust/bin files when my wine+programs pet is installed. In the sfs booted with the frugal Stardust012, there's no problem, everything runs. And this wine+programs pet has not been a problem in other Pups and Puplets.

Regarding this full install of Stardust012 and my choosing the Upgrade mode: I do not remember doing anything other than following the normal Universal Installer prompts. I did not do anything with a save-file during the full install.

Of course, this being Puppy, I can quite easily just re-install a full Stardust012, but this time I will use the WIPE option not the UPGRADE, re-install my wine+programs pet, and see if this fixes the problem.

David S.

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statement

Removing lameNFSxplorer proposal- has my vote

Some Windows programs not running from Menu entries