Ppup 416alpha bug reports

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BarryK · #1 Post by **BarryK** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 14:58

Here is the announcement:

http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00884

Feedback invited! Both good and bad!

As I am hoping for the next release to be beta.

#2 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 16:03

next release a beta, touch wood Barry, LOL I hope so also, would be nice

ttuuxxx

rcrsn51 · #3 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 16:15

With a few patches, CUPS 1.3.10 looks usable in this version.

1. Get Patriot's CUPS 1.3.10 from here.

2. Get ttuuuxxx's compiled foomatic-rip from Puppy 4.2.1

3. Make /tmp all-writable.

4. Get the HPIJS driver package with dynamic PPD's from here.

This is based on very limited testing.

rcrsn51 · #4 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 16:22

When you click on the drive icon of an already-mounted partition, you get the annoying orange dialog box. If I wanted to unmount the partition, I would right-click on it. The behaviour in 4.1.2 is much more convenient.

Lobster · #5 Post by **Lobster** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 16:47

Many thanks

menu/internet/uget download manager (manager has the g missing)

I hope the 'original' desktop icon theme remains - it seems the best for clarity and ease of use based on colour and shape

dogone · #6 Post by **dogone** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 16:51

Booting the live CD, 416 ALSA wizard (alsaconf) detects neither the PCI sound card nor on-board audio, despite successful boot-time hardware detection (snd_ice17xx and ac97 drivers are being loaded).

On-board audio is normally disabled. I enabled it after PCI card detection failed.

#7 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 17:10

Hi Barry I'm working on the icons

The issue I have is the new image viewer, If you click on an icon it exapnds to a crazy size like 512x512 or something, So I untick the scale box, and then Its the actual size, then I close it and click it again, Once again it doesn't remember my last settings and its expanded again, It should show images at the default regular size, not auto-max-zoom on load. Also whats wrong with Hairry-wills hacked Gpicview with slideshow? Its only 32kb compressed. That works fine.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 98&t=37870
forget about pupzip, it had a popup box hidden behind another window I had open

, lol my fault
ttuuxxx

rcrsn51 · #8 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 17:14

Xvesa video is scrambled.

zygo · #9 Post by **zygo** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 17:31

The delta for the iso is not on ibiblio for some reason.

Please would some some kind soul who has both the 415 an 416 isos make a delta for us on dial-up please.

Keef · #10 Post by **Keef** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 17:46

Successful manual frugal install to USB stick.
Dell Latitude 610 laptop.
Xorg at 1024x768

Finally got wifi connection (Netgear WG111T usb, via ndiswrapper).
As with previous versions, initially could not establish a WPA connection.
But... I tried again, and again, and again....
Eventually got a connection. Don't know how though...

[edit] No connection after reboot - tried several times, but no luck.

Minor issues:
The combination of the default wallpaper and icons. Well, let's say it wouldn't look out of place here.
Those icons work much better with a darker background.

Right, now to try it on my old PII laptop....

Keef · #11 Post by **Keef** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 18:51

Compaq Armada 3500
320MB ram
PII 300mhz
2gb CF card in IDE adapter

Yippee!!
Previous versions would not work with xorg, but now I'm running at 1024x768 without problem.
Wifi connection was established first time of asking (same usb dongle as mentioned in previous post). Did not survive a reboot, but only took a couple of tries to re-establish.

It also picked up my other CF card in a PCMCIA adapter - this does not happen with every pup, so it's a plus for me.

Seems to be running very smoothly, and quite quick for this laptop (I think the CF card is too slow to get a really good performance). Definitely worth continuing with.

Caneri · #12 Post by **Caneri** » Sun 12 Jul 2009, 19:35

Here's another server to use in North America

http://puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/test/woof-416alpha/

Eric

PS..for the iso-aa to iso-aj pleae right click to save as...my mime types do not work for this. I explained here http://puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/test/wo ... iso-aj.txt
http://puppylinux.ca/puppyfiles/test/wo ... so-aj.html

PSS If an xdelta upgrade is issued please pm me in case I miss it...ty

#13 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 02:16

funny thing, I've been running 4.16a live and working on the icons

The strange thing is that the icons in usr/local/lib/mini-icons folder is 199kb, but if you copy the icons only not system links from that folder to say root/oldicons the size shoots all the way upto 885kb, where did the other 686kb in file size come from? then if you think its a compression sfs thing, well I then converted the 885kb folder to a pet, which should be larger than a sfs and it was 51kb pet in size. I'm about 3/4 done with the 24.24 icons and this is how it compares so far, probably will be a bit smaller in the end.

old icons 885kb in root
new icons 836kb in root:)
but
old icons in pet 54kb
new icons in pet 113kb

and here's the clincher if you copy the 199kb icons from usr/local/lib/mini-icons to root and then you copy the same icons back to usr/local/lib/mini-icons the folder increase to 885kb.
now lets do some math, the largest icon is 2261b and the smallest is 212b and there are 220 icons. lets just say they all are 2.2kbX220 thats a max ok 484kb. Man thats confusing, you probably best just going off of pet sizes to know the real size.
ttuuxxx

BarryK · #14 Post by **BarryK** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 02:56

ttuuxxx wrote:funny thing, I've been running 4.16a live and working on the icons
The strange thing is that the icons in usr/local/lib/mini-icons folder is 199kb, but if you copy the icons only not system links from that folder to say root/oldicons the size shoots all the way upto 885kb, where did the other 686kb in file size come from? then if you think its a compression sfs thing, well I then converted the 885kb folder to a pet, which should be larger than a sfs and it was 51kb pet in size. I'm about 3/4 done with the 24.24 icons and this is how it compares so far, probably will be a bit smaller in the end.

old icons 885kb in root
new icons 836kb in root:)
but
old icons in pet 54kb
new icons in pet 113kb

and here's the clincher if you copy the 199kb icons from usr/local/lib/mini-icons to root and then you copy the same icons back to usr/local/lib/mini-icons the folder increase to 885kb.
now lets do some math, the largest icon is 2261b and the smallest is 212b and there are 220 icons. lets just say they all are 2.2kbX220 thats a max ok 484kb. Man thats confusing, you probably best just going off of pet sizes to know the real size.
ttuuxxx

Ttuuxxx,
The squashfs filesystem packs very small files extremely efficiently, much better that .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 tarballs.

Note also, we don't have to increase all of the 16x16 icons to 24x24, only those likely to be needed in the menu. Some of the others are actually better left as 16x16 as they are mostly used in Window top-left corner of an app. Anyway, it won't do any harm if they all become 24x24, as long as size doesn't balloon.

dogone · #15 Post by **dogone** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 03:23

Not more than a week ago I purchased an HP 5500C flatbed scanner at local a thrift shop for US $20. It was a lark really but worth the gamble. It turned out that the scanner was in perfect condition. The hurt came when I discovered the device on SANE's "not supported" list. Sure enough, neither Puppy nor any other Linux distro I tried could find the scanner.

Enter Puppy 416. Xsane finds the scanner without difficulty and scanning is picture perfect. I can't believe the timing. My $20 just purchased a $250 scanner.

Thank you Barry! Thank you SANE project!

dogone · #16 Post by **dogone** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 03:30

Just my two cents worth about 416's new look. The new icons are really very excellent - very professional and attractive.

I can't say the same about Super Pup, lovable though he may be. That background is not going to cut it. It's far too loud, lacks refinement and clashes terribly with the new icons.

My vote? Keep those lovely icons and go with a very quiet, perhaps monochrome background. The "dark gray" actually looks quite good.

gposil · #17 Post by **gposil** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 03:44

Yet another mirror of Barry's /test directory...

http://www.gposil.com/test

James C · #18 Post by **James C** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 03:57

I installed 4.16 on my multi-boot test machine a little earlier today.Don't know if this is considered a bug or not but the universal installer did not recognize Puppy 2.14r X5 on one of the partitions.

The partitions are as follows: /hda1 Windows 2000, /hda2 extended, /hda5 Debris 1.50, /hda6 Ttuuxxx's Puppy 4.20, /hda7 swap, /hda8 Puppy 4.12, /hda9 Puppy 2.14r X5, and /hda10 Puppy 4.16.....all full installs.

The installer recognized all of the partitions, as well as the installs of 4.20 and 4.12....but not 2.14r.Don't know if its a bug but thought I'd point it out.

Otherwise, working fine so far.

Lobster · #19 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 06:24

Booted up this morning from DVD
(so this is the equivalent of the second boot)
Puppy dumped me to the command line

Tried resetting xorg (sometimes the monitor refresh rates are too high)
OK could not get that working (it had been working on both a fresh 'pfix=ram and update from 4.15)
so used xvesa - it is still worthwhile having both

Now had no internet (Ethernet) connection
and when I tried to connect it was not recognizing my Ethernet
and trying to 'load a wifi module'

Little disappointed as I have been using 4.15 (yes a few niggles - but it is an Alpha) as a very stable working day to day OS

So am using 42.1 at the moment to check email, twitter and check the nudes . . . eh news . . .

Just reporting in - a lot of checking seems to have gone into 4.16
but it seems to have been the second boot that did not recognize or acknowledge what was already working - am a bit confused how this might happen . . .

OlddogNewtricks · #20 Post by **OlddogNewtricks** » Mon 13 Jul 2009, 09:08

Hi Barry & all,
I've been trying out 'dougalremaster-2.16' from pup 3 to create a 'customized' pup sfs file. At first all looked well apart from the resulting sfs needing a name change which should be an easy fix similar to pup 214R However when I looked at the file size it had grown by 21Mb, that is the zp416516.sfs driver file had been saved as well. I started again this time deleting the zp416516.sfs file before remastering. No change, so I can only assume the entire driver file contents must be loaded into ram at boot & then saved when remastering.
Also tried a pupsave file then deleted zp416516.sfs & rebooted but stuck at xorg, so my personal settings weren't saved making the driver file necessary at every boot.
Doesn't this defeat the object of a seperate driver file.

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