New Pup for the Eeepc based on Puppy 301

[JohnRoberts]

1. Got my Eee (4G/Surf) and it can boot from an SD card in 48 seconds, apparently similar as from the SSD

...meaning didn't expect that SD card in the flash reader to be as fast as the SSD. My notion is if 80x can do 45sec what if I used a 150x or even 266X CF?

And the xandros might not have a hardware-detection.

Mark is right, I think. Xandros does not have to look which modules to load...
It has been pre-configured for single h/w to boot as fast as possible
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Besides the SmartLink, the WiFi dongle seems to respond. I don't have any AP nearby to test it, but the prism2_USB module is loaded as wlan0, there seems to be no conflict with the internal WiFi (it is not detected at all, that's a plus in this case...) and when I search for networks the dongle flashes...


There is one place in the center of the city where there is free, public WiFi access that I could test it. The AP there, is completely unlocked, no encryption whatsoever... I am not sure how to configure WLAN in the wizard... Do I leave the fields blank, or what? I did test on the spot with Xandros and it comes naturally. When you enable the internal WiFi you get a message that a wireless network is detected and just press the button "connect"...Any ideas?

Also which module should I load to enable the Ethernet connection?

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In Xandros, I installed gcc according to the instructions in the Wiki.
Is there an effective way to benchmark the system against a typical desktop? (I tried compiling & running one of my fortran apps that does cubic spline interpolation...It ran blazing fast, maybe even faster than my P4 desktop with Visual Fortran/Windoze ). Any actual numbers on MFLOPS/MIPS?

It would be really nice to have a taskbar applet (like in Xandros) showing NUM-LOCK, SCROLL-LOCK & CAPS-LOCK status. Especially SCROLL-LOCK is a must, since I'm using a twin keyboard layout...

[magerlab]

hi! again
this post is on eepc through adsl modem with pupeee frugal (i cleaned up from windozexp preinstalled
now have 3,6 g free on ssd

i suggest to add fbreader to read e-books and also xdelta support for new versions of pupee

also is it possible to use gtkpod with other players?

[JohnRoberts]

It would be really nice to have a taskbar applet (like in Xandros) showing NUM-LOCK, SCROLL-LOCK & CAPS-LOCK status. Especially SCROLL-LOCK is a must, since I'm using a twin keyboard layout...

Apparently there are some out there:
kkeyled
kleds

I don't know much about programming with qt . If anyone can help migrating them...

[dvw86]

I suggest to add fbreader to read e-books and also xdelta support for new versions of pupeee

They are both in the next version.

also is it possible to use gtkpod with other players?

I'm not sure about that. It works well with iPods though.

[dvw86]

1. Got my Eee (4G/Surf) and it can boot from an SD card in 48 seconds, apparently similar as from the SSD. Now that's impressive!

Is it? Xandros is booting faster than this. Where is the bottleneck? What have they optimised?

Hi Lob,
I think there are 2 reasons.
The inbuilt drive will be very fast.
And the xandros might not have a hardware-detection.
Puppy is intended to run everywhere - old Pentium 1 as well as modern hot shot whatever hardware.
So it tries to detect different stuff, extracts kernel-drivers from zdrv.sfs and so on.

A system delivered with a notebook usually will not need this.
You know which graficscard it uses - so you supply just thiscard-driver.ko and load it.
No need to check for Ati, Vesa or so.

If Puppy would be stripped down the same way, it also could boot faster.
Mark

That's true. Also, puppy loads into RAM at boot when installed on a flash card or as a frugal install on the internal drive. Puppy would boot faster as a full hard drive install which is how the default Xandros is installed.

[smokey01]

Some time back I bought a couple of A-Data 8G HDSC cards hoping they would speed up boot time for Pupeee. I am a little disappointed as I thought they would be much faster. These cards are supposed to transfer 6M per second where many are around 2M.

There was definitely an improvement in speed but still took about 45 seconds, nothing like the 8 seconds that scotto_puppy had claimed.

I use a frugal install which would be slower than a full install. I haven't worked out how to do a full install on an SD card yet. Does anyone know because the universal installer does not supply this option. I guess you would also need to have the card formatted to EX2. My attempts at this have not been successful either.

The HDSD cards do work well in my camera as well so this is very convenient. It means I can have puppy on the card and save photos there as well.

Dan, here is a thought. Is there a way you could make puppy boot off the SD card and then be able to remove it like booting off a CD.

At the moment when booting off cards or flash drives, a message says you must not remove the media. As the EeePC only has one card slot this would be very handy.

Thanks

Smokey

[dvw86]

Dan, here is a thought. Is there a way you could make puppy boot off the SD card and then be able to remove it like booting off a CD.

At the moment when booting off cards or flash drives, a message says you must not remove the media. As the EeePC only has one card slot this would be very handy.

Thanks

Smokey

Well you could not save your sessions to the SD card. You may be able to boot off of the SD card but save your pup_save file to the internal drive. I simply do a frugal install to the built in drive. This way I can still use the SD card slot to transfer files from my camera.

[smokey01]

Dan, here is a thought. Is there a way you could make puppy boot off the SD card and then be able to remove it like booting off a CD.

At the moment when booting off cards or flash drives, a message says you must not remove the media. As the EeePC only has one card slot this would be very handy.

Thanks

Smokey

Well you could not save your sessions to the SD card. You may be able to boot off of the SD card but save your pup_save file to the internal drive. I simply do a frugal install to the built in drive. This way I can still use the SD card slot to transfer files from my camera.

I had considered that but I was trying to avoid using a boot manager. I don't mind saving the pup_save file on the internal drive but other than that would like to keep it pristine.

The other option of course is to boot pupeee off a USB drive which leaves the card reader free for photos.

Not a biggie, just a suggested added feature.

Smokey

[JohnRoberts]

Pupeee entry in the Wiki

The built in Ethernet port drivers are installed but not loaded

Guys, how do you enable the ethernet connection? Which module should be loaded?

[scotto_puppy]

The module _should_ have loaded automatically. It did for me. However, look through the list of available modules for the eee ethernet driver. It should be there!

[tempestuous]

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modprobe atl2

[magerlab]

i wonder if it's possible to make a cut-off version of puppy linux 3
with only modules for EEEpc
unlike normal puppy we do not need to probe video lan wifi and audio devices
because we know each of them


also is there a way to upgrade bios of eee from linux
( in russia it comes with winxp, wich i wiped off)
and now i have 2,5g free

[JohnRoberts]

However, look through the list of available modules for the eee ethernet driver. It should be there!

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modprobe atl2

Many Thanks guys!!! Worked!!
I did not see the comment next to the Atheros module, that it's the right one for the Eee (...comment was outside of visible window )

The module _should_ have loaded automatically. It did for me.

...hmmm. That's strange. Was connected to my DSL router but did not autodetect the module.

also is there a way to upgrade bios of eee from linux

The way that the default Xandros does it (it is in "Add/Remove Software"), I think, is to copy the image of the BIOS to be updated on the hidden FAT16 partition under the name 701.rom along with a signature file for verification. Then it forces a reboot while activating the EZFlash function of the BIOS. I have the impression that EZFlash only needs a bootable medium and the correct name (I guess the "701.rom" is the right name...). I am positive, this could be automated with any distro, but some input from ASUS is required. What I have seen for sure, is that a 64MB SD/MMC, formatted with FAT16 and DOS bootable, will boot automatically w/o user intervention (from factory BIOS settings the 1st boot device is removable storage...)

[JohnRoberts]

...with a latest crop, fast USB flash stick (w/o pup_save file, all settings remastered to main .sfs) boot time dropped to 37'' flat.

where would it go on a "fast" CF (the x266 ones that go over 40MB/sec...)

[stjohnh]

Hmmm, I've been using Pupeee B4 for a while but have hit a problem I can't quite solve. I want to remap the Right Shift key (I just can't get used to the factory position, I keep accidentally hitting the up arrow, really hassle) as described in the wiki
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:moveshift ... hift%20key. This worked fine for the default Xandros, but I am having trouble getting it to work in Pupeee. I wrote the script as described in the wiki, made it executable and tested it in a terminal window, works fine. However, when I put the line that I think should make it work on startup:

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 /root/my-documents/scripts/setupkbd.sh  at the end of the /ect/rc.d/local.rc file it fails to move the keys. If I exit the window manager to command line only and run the same line I get several lines saying:
xmodmap: unable to open display ' ' (repeated several times) then
xset: unable to open display ' ' (repeated 3 times).

Does anyone know how to get this to work on startup? I'm pretty new to linux, so it may be a very basic error.
Thanks

[stjohnh]

Hmmm, I've been using Pupeee B4 for a while but have hit a problem I can't quite solve. I want to remap the Right Shift key (I just can't get used to the factory position, I keep accidentally hitting the up arrow, really hassle) as described in the wiki
http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:moveshift ... hift%20key. This worked fine for the default Xandros, but I am having trouble getting it to work in Pupeee. I wrote the script as described in the wiki, made it executable and tested it in a terminal window, works fine. However, when I put the line that I think should make it work on startup:

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 /root/my-documents/scripts/setupkbd.sh  at the end of the /ect/rc.d/local.rc file it fails to move the keys. If I exit the window manager to command line only and run the same line I get several lines saying:
xmodmap: unable to open display ' ' (repeated several times) then
xset: unable to open display ' ' (repeated 3 times).

Does anyone know how to get this to work on startup? I'm pretty new to linux, so it may be a very basic error.
Thanks

[stjohnh]

Oops, sorry about the double post, I might have hit Submit twice, thinking it didn't respond. Also I'm not sure why the wiki address didn't show up as a hotlink, and the "code" entry didn't format properly, sorry.

[magerlab]

hey all!
i use puppee frugal on ssd
it works good( as puppy must work!)
but the only disappointing thing is that it bots up slowly( 1,5 minutes)
i have only 128mb save2fs
is there a way to make boot faster?

thank you!

[mikeinrichmond]

if you used the default directory with a frugal install the suggestion would look something like:

title Puppy Linux 3.01 Frugal
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /puppy301/vmlinuz pmedia=idehd psubdir=puppy301
initrd /puppy301/initrd.gz

all you need to do is change the kernal line a little to look like:

kernel /puppy301/vmlinuz hdc=noprobe pmedia=idehd psubdir=puppy301

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I did the full install and my kernel line is

kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc1 ro vga=normal

it does not have the initrd /puppy301 etc... line at all...

Any ideas? Also this is the pupeee b4 edition if it makes any difference. Thanks.

[dvw86]

@ mikeinrichmond

I really recommend using a frugal install. It would be much easier to back up, re-install, and upgrade. Pupeee is still in Beta and I plan on a few more releases before I call it finished.