New Pup for the Eeepc based on Puppy 301

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teh603 · #221 Post by **teh603** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 02:22

Odd question- about how much SSD space does Pupeee take up in its current installation? Once it gets out of beta I'm thinking about reformatting everything but the emergency partition and dropping it on my eee.

Maybe by then I'll have access to an external CD drive, too.

Oh, and another question? Does Pupeee have anything to actually tell you how much SSD space you have used and available? Xandros doesn't seem to want to tell me unless I run out.

dvw86 · #222 Post by **dvw86** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 03:03

teh603 wrote:Odd question- about how much SSD space does Pupeee take up in its current installation?

It's about 120MB as a frugal install, plus whatever you choose as a size for the pup_save file.

teh603 wrote: Oh, and another question? Does Pupeee have anything to actually tell you how much SSD space you have used and available? Xandros doesn't seem to want to tell me unless I run out.

Partview is an easy way to tell.

One thing I love about Puppy is that it is so small yet has so many tools and applications.

dvw86 · #223 Post by **dvw86** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 03:12

Pupeee Beta 4 is now on the community news page and Softpedia.

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/LatestNews
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/O ... 6176.shtml

stlchuck · #224 Post by **stlchuck** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 08:24

Downloaded and installed PupeeB4 and set it up to boot from a 2GB USB key and I am quite pleased so far - everything appears to work and the black vista theme looks good. One thing you may want to include in your new control panel application would be a way to easily change default applications for things like the browser and/or email client - One of the main things I like about the XFCE desktop is that ability to easily change/designate default programs. Given that change Pupeee would be a stone winner - but its pretty darn good as is. Keep up the good work.

Lobster · #225 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 09:03

Much to my surprise I am leaving this PuppySpeak facility on whilst using Pupeee
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 613#182613

Incidentally I am using PupEEE from an x86 computer (ie. PC)
and it works fine.

Noticed a constellation map (Xpins) under utilities in case I inadvertently teleport to another location (I can use the sky to navigate my position)

Xandros comes with limited voice recognition.
How good is that when on? Can we do better? Any thoughts?
Another question I saw a Windows hack for the Eeepc which ups the resolution (displays more info). Can this be done on Linux?

Hedgehog · #226 Post by **Hedgehog** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 10:01

Saw the video, kids speaking in english (hard accent) "Computer web"
"Computer camera" "Computer music" stuff like that. Think it was on the Asus website.

dvw86 · #227 Post by **dvw86** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:44

stlchuck wrote:One thing you may want to include in your new control panel application would be a way to easily change default applications for things like the browser and/or email client - One of the main things I like about the XFCE desktop is that ability to easily change/designate default programs.

Good idea. It's on my list.

dvw86 · #228 Post by **dvw86** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 16:57

Lobster wrote: Xandros comes with limited voice recognition.
How good is that when on? Can we do better? Any thoughts?

Limited is a good description. It works about as well as the Mac OSX voice recognition. I could never get either one to work reliably. I don't know why a cell phone can have great voice recognition but a multi billion dollar software company like Apple can't get it right.

Lobster wrote: Another question I saw a Windows hack for the Eeepc which ups the resolution (displays more info). Can this be done on Linux?

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you talking about screen resolution?

dvw86 · #229 Post by **dvw86** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 17:06

Lobster wrote:Much to my surprise I am leaving this PuppySpeak facility on whilst using Pupeee
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 613#182613

I downloaded the needed files for JWMSpeak. It looks pretty small so it just may end up in the next Pupeee with an option in the Appearance section of the control panel to turn it off and on.

Lobster · #230 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 17:56

dvw86 wrote:Are you talking about screen resolution?

DPI
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=15318

tqwe · #231 Post by **tqwe** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 18:56

dvw86 if i may ask, my sd cards, 3 of them will show all the same files or none. this depends on th order of mounting. for ex if i put a sd card into pc eee, the next cards show the same thing, usb seems to be doing the same thing. do you think this might be an issue with the eee pc. thanks if i need to be posting questions here let me know thank you.

dvw86 · #232 Post by **dvw86** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 19:09

tqwe wrote:dvw86 if i may ask, my sd cards, 3 of them will show all the same files or none. this depends on th order of mounting. for ex if i put a sd card into pc eee, the next cards show the same thing, usb seems to be doing the same thing. do you think this might be an issue with the eee pc. thanks if i need to be posting questions here let me know thank you.

Did you try clicking on the "refresh" icon in Rox? It's right next to the magnifying glass with the plus sign in it.

tqwe · #233 Post by **tqwe** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 19:33

wow that was pretty neat., thank you dvw86,that will sure make it easier to install some things to puppy. for a time there i thought all my sd cards and usb keys were broken. while i have your attention, do you know of a pet conky for ease of install. again i thanks.

Ray MK · #234 Post by **Ray MK** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 22:14

Hi

Yes - if I can do it - anyone can.

I'll see if I can find where I downloaded from.

here is a pic.

Best regards - Ray MK - puppy n00bie

Ray MK · #235 Post by **Ray MK** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 22:26

Hi again

not sure if I'm 'sposed to do this or if it will work - here goes

am going to try sending file - it's small

Ray MK

9a6or · #236 Post by **9a6or** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 22:56

I am using v3 happily from a 2GB SD card. Now that v4 is out, I'm keen to upgrade but would also like to keep the settings I have on v3. Can I simply replace a few files on the SD taken from the new ISO? If yest then which files?

JustGreg · #237 Post by **JustGreg** » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 23:46

To update to the next version, one only has to copy the new vmlinuz, the new initrd.gz, the new version of pup_301-eee.sfs and the new zdrv_301.sfs from the iso to the SD card. The release notes for the beta do say that you should erase and create a save file. You may be able to keep the save file depending on what changes you have made to the old version. However, there is no guarantee that it will work. The new version has several new applications. The old save file will not have the files for the new applications, that is reason for creating a new save file. When I changed to the new version, I created a new save file (deleted the old first). Once PupEee gets out of the beta version, one will be able to just copy the four new system files. I hope this helps.

Just tried only copying the four system files on USB device with PupEee 3. Some changes for the new version were made, but, none of the new applications were present. One needs to create a new pup save file.

JustGreg · #238 Post by **JustGreg** » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 00:05

One needs to use the alsamixer command in a rxvt console to set the controls.

To ensure the microphone works for record, the following alsamizer controls must be set to on:
Control "Mic" set to a value of 100 (up arrow raise and un-mute the control with the "M" key)
Control "Capture" set to a value of 97 (up arrow raises, "M" key has no effect)
Control "Input Source set to Mic ("up/down" arrow keys are used to select the source)

To see all the controls, use the "tab" key to make the View line high light "All".

It seems that when alsa starts up, the mic and capture are turned off. So, one has to check to ensure that they are turned on.

Some notes on the microphone. The EeePC microphone is mono and present only on the left channel. The right channel is unteminated so it picks up some computer noise. I have tried to turn off the right channel, but, both soxgui and audacity seem to turn on the right channel. The microphone is mounted on the botton of the EeePC, which results in your voice being a bit muffed and key/mouse clicks being picked up. I have tried a headset with a microphone. It helps, but, the microphone is also mono and noise is still there.

All of the above information was done with PupEee version 4 (beta)I hope this helps.

dvw86 · #239 Post by **dvw86** » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 04:16

Interesting, I just timed Pupeee booting from a frugal install off of the internal SSD and a 128MB pup_save file. Total time from the push of the button to the working desktop was 48 seconds. It felt like it took longer to boot the kernel than it did to load Pupeee. I'm not sure what all this means, but I thought it was interesting. I'm sure that a full hard drive install would be faster since it would not have to load everything into RAM.

Ray MK · #240 Post by **Ray MK** » Wed 19 Mar 2008, 08:59

Hi

A full hdd install is faster to start but I went back to frugal 'cos I lost one of my fave features, the battery indicator on the tool bar and in conky refused to work, no matter what I did, could not fathom why?

Went back to frugal - bingo - all ok.

All above relates to earlier releases - have not tried latest release as full hdd install.

Brilliant stuff BTW - works a treat on my 6yr old Acer laptop with a frugul to hda1. 233mb ram, 2.5Ghz celeron proc.

Did the hdd install on 5yr old lower spec Patriot laptop with
96mb ram, 1Ghz celeron proc.
Ran very well and reasonably fast - all ok - except battery readouts both no go.
As above - went back to frugal - everything perfect.

Luv the new stuff - keep it coming - and MONSTER MEGA thanks for all your time, skills and effort.

One very impressed and very happy Puppy n00bie

Best regards - Ray MK

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