AGW is relative
It's an "Accord". Big deal.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accord_de ... _le_climat
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accord_de ... _le_climat
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
Yep, it's a big deal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatymusher0 wrote:It's an "Accord". Big deal.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accord_de ... _le_climat
Not worth answering, really. But to bar the t's...
It became a treaty for those countries who signed it.
Source: FR wikipedia article mentioned above, 6th par. under the heading "Historique".
Other mention of the word "traité" in that article:
3rd par. under the "Donald Trump et l'accord de Paris" heading.
Some Anglo journalists refer to it as a treaty:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-enviro ... ws+stories
Finally it's in the UN Treaty Collection. So it must be a treaty.
https://treaties.un.org/pages/ViewDetai ... &clang=_en
Split hairs all you want!
It became a treaty for those countries who signed it.
Source: FR wikipedia article mentioned above, 6th par. under the heading "Historique".
Other mention of the word "traité" in that article:
3rd par. under the "Donald Trump et l'accord de Paris" heading.
Some Anglo journalists refer to it as a treaty:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-enviro ... ws+stories
Finally it's in the UN Treaty Collection. So it must be a treaty.
https://treaties.un.org/pages/ViewDetai ... &clang=_en
Split hairs all you want!
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
Warning you as a friend... 
You better hurry sending those insults across the border.
Because as soon as your Congress and our federal Parliament give their final assent to
the "New NAFTA" (you do the research for the actual new name for a change), you
won't be able to. American insults will be seized and emptied of any offensive content
at the Canadian border as "detrimental to Canadian culture".
Some Canadian Border officials are debating whether their offensive content should be
replaced with laughing gas. I'll keep you posted.
TWYL
You better hurry sending those insults across the border.
Because as soon as your Congress and our federal Parliament give their final assent to
the "New NAFTA" (you do the research for the actual new name for a change), you
won't be able to. American insults will be seized and emptied of any offensive content
at the Canadian border as "detrimental to Canadian culture".
Some Canadian Border officials are debating whether their offensive content should be
replaced with laughing gas. I'll keep you posted.
TWYL
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
I am pretty impressed by the Lindzen video.musher0 wrote:So you seriously think you can win any lay person over to Pr. Lindzen's position by demeaning their intelligence?.
Never heard of him before but he seems to have good credentials and covers the topic in depth pretty well.
And he speaks in very simple terms so that anyone who dissents can easily refute his position if they try (if truth/reality is on their side...)
Got halfway through it along with my skeptical wife (two science degrees and a climate change believer). She found the commentary scientifically valid.
Who knows - maybe the video will convince her that CO2 is a minor player in climate change. So far that is the (new) conclusion that she has come to.
And if the CO2 propaganda is actually bullsh*t then what is the actual truth...??
Truth is we each have to look at where we live and ask how our specific local environment will fare in the long term. Politics won't save us if the Earth's inherent rythms make our local conditions untenable for life.
The Lindzen video should wake every "global warmer" out of their slumber.
Are you officially filing for "victimhood" status, here? Helps to know.musher0 wrote:So you seriously think you can win any lay person over to Pr. Lindzen's position
by demeaning their intelligence? Oh, come on! I know you're not stupid.
If you are, it would make you eligible to give speeches to the UN, and to do one gratuitous TED talk.
@jafadmin:jafadmin wrote:Are you officially filing for "victimhood" status, here? Helps to know.musher0 wrote:So you seriously think you can win any lay person over to Pr. Lindzen's position
by demeaning their intelligence? Oh, come on! I know you're not stupid.
If you are, it would make you eligible to give speeches to the UN, and to do one gratuitous TED talk.
You have really no clue as to how demeaning and condescending your attitude is,
do you?
My reasoning is fine. It earned me diplomas, helped me through two successful
careers, etc.
My political opinions -- although they varied through time -- were all fine when
I put my X on the ballot.
Your put-downs about either have no effect. Unfortunately there will always be
people who use put-downs to cover their shortcomings in their capacity to
explain things properly.
Go ahead and kneel before your Dr. Lindzen, your supposedly Einstein of climate
science.
If this Dr. Lindzen is attracting people with similar demeaning and condescending
attitudes as yours, I don't want to encourage any part of his theory. If his theory in
whole or in part has merit, eventually someone civilized will show up on my path
who can explain it with respect to the layman that I am.
I didn't view the entire boring video, but I read through the whole wikipedia article you
referenced.
Conclusion: he's a bright, but controversial scientist. At some point, however, he was
subsidized by coal mining giant Peabody, and that throws a big shadow on his findings.
Finally, he's not taking well the rejection of his theories by the new people at MIT.
As to the UN, I have had major translation contracts with them. They are the most
equitable client I have ever worked for. UN has respect of others built-in in their
organizational culture.
That's all there is to it: respect of people and a sense of equity towards them come
first and foremost. Then there can be science. Not the other way around.
Antagonizing people is neither a teaching nor a marketing tool.
I'm out of here.
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
mwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!jafadmin wrote:I'm gonna take that as a "Yes"
Oh, the Canadian Customs people really did replace your offensive content
with laughing gas!!!
If you're still a kid, it's probably not too late for you to get an education of the good
manners, how-to-live-peacefully-with-your-fellow-men, kind.
If you're not a kid anymore, then you're a lost cause. May God have pity on you.
musher0
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"You want it darker? We kill the flame." (L. Cohen)
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Also somewhat worthy of being in the news is the fact that Norway is about to build a huge new wind farm. Someone told me that there is a very good market for wind and they hope to put in the first crop of wind seedlings in 2022.jafadmin wrote: Thanks for the update. Good luck at the UN. We'll be watching for you on C-SPAN. Make us proud.
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Before doing anything, however, they have to do a huge UXO (Unexploded Ordinance) detection and removal effort. The bombs left on the seabed from WW2, are still able to go bang even after all this time down there.
