This is a small Linux (never heard of it)
As usual what can we learn from it?
Based on Red Hat and for really old hardware . . .
http://www.rule-project.org/
Rule Linux + Hidden cost of PCs
Very interesting, odd-ball project... Could someone comment on what advantages RULE might offer -- what are the situations, if any, where it would be better than Puppy or some other current popular light-weight distro?
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http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0, ... _tophead_6
Short-Lived PCs Have Hidden Costs
By Stephen Leahy Stephen Leahy
02:00 AM Mar, 08, 2004 EST
What has the environmental impact of both an SUV and a fridge?
Here's a clue: You're using it right now.
It turns out your computer is a much bigger material and energy hog than previously believed. The most effective way to reduce its oversized environmental footprint is to increase its useful lifespan, according to a new book released Monday, Computers and the Environment, by the United Nations University in Tokyo.
The average desktop PC and 17-inch CRT monitor takes an SUV-sized 1.8 tons of water, fossil fuels and chemicals to make, the book reports.
As for energy use, a computer's lifetime energy impact is about the same as a refrigerator, they report. While a computer doesn't use much energy while it's running, its short lifespan and the large amounts of energy needed to construct it make it one of the more energy-intensive appliances.
With a billion machines already sold and annual sales topping 130 million computers worldwide, computers pose serious environmental problems because of their resource and energy use, and the growing mountains of toxic computer waste, said co-editor Eric Williams.
Today's smaller, faster computers are making the problem worse. The more sophisticated the components, the higher the purity requirements for manufacturing, resulting in the use of more energy and materials, said Williams. "Making a 2-gram memory chip requires 1.3 kilograms (1,300 grams) of fossil fuels and materials."
Computer recycling isn't the answer -- only the metals are usually recovered, and the high-tech components and plastics that took so much energy to make are destroyed. However, reselling or upgrading a computer offers five to 20 times greater energy savings than recycling.
"Extending the life of a computer is the most effective way to reduce its environmental impact," he said.
Computers are becoming less and less reusable, said Sheila Davis of the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition. Incompatibility of components, the need for technical expertise and support, and software-license issues make reuse difficult.
"It's cheaper and a lot easier to buy a new machine now."
Governments, institutions and large businesses are trying to buy greener computers, said Davis. The Environmental Protection Agency is working to create a new "ecolabel" for computers made using less-toxic materials and processes. However, manufacturers are resisting any requirements to extend the life of a computer. "Longevity is a challenge to their current business model," she said.
According to the SVTC, the lifespan of a computer today is just two years.
Mark Newton, Dell Computer's environmental spokesman, said he thinks the lifespan is longer but could not offer an alternative number. Like most of the leading manufacturers, Dell has been refurbishing and reselling computers from its business markets for many years. A recycling program for consumer machines is about 18 months old. For a small fee, Dell will pick up old machines for recycling.
While the long-life, low-impact computer may be a dream, computer owners can do many things to lessen the environmental burden, said Williams. These include using a machine as long as possible, then donating or selling it and buying a used one. Turn off the machine at night and make sure stand-by modes are working -- networked machines are often kept awake by server traffic.
Government incentives are also needed, said Williams. The European Union will require the recycling of all computers by 2005. Though it's a step in the right direction, more needs to be done to increase the sustainability of computers, said Williams. Software license transfers could be made a great deal easier. And tax laws could be changed to allow write-offs for new computers over a longer period of time than three or four years.
"Tax laws ought to reward you for buying a used computer, rather than being penalized."
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http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0, ... _tophead_6
Short-Lived PCs Have Hidden Costs
By Stephen Leahy Stephen Leahy
02:00 AM Mar, 08, 2004 EST
What has the environmental impact of both an SUV and a fridge?
Here's a clue: You're using it right now.
It turns out your computer is a much bigger material and energy hog than previously believed. The most effective way to reduce its oversized environmental footprint is to increase its useful lifespan, according to a new book released Monday, Computers and the Environment, by the United Nations University in Tokyo.
The average desktop PC and 17-inch CRT monitor takes an SUV-sized 1.8 tons of water, fossil fuels and chemicals to make, the book reports.
As for energy use, a computer's lifetime energy impact is about the same as a refrigerator, they report. While a computer doesn't use much energy while it's running, its short lifespan and the large amounts of energy needed to construct it make it one of the more energy-intensive appliances.
With a billion machines already sold and annual sales topping 130 million computers worldwide, computers pose serious environmental problems because of their resource and energy use, and the growing mountains of toxic computer waste, said co-editor Eric Williams.
Today's smaller, faster computers are making the problem worse. The more sophisticated the components, the higher the purity requirements for manufacturing, resulting in the use of more energy and materials, said Williams. "Making a 2-gram memory chip requires 1.3 kilograms (1,300 grams) of fossil fuels and materials."
Computer recycling isn't the answer -- only the metals are usually recovered, and the high-tech components and plastics that took so much energy to make are destroyed. However, reselling or upgrading a computer offers five to 20 times greater energy savings than recycling.
"Extending the life of a computer is the most effective way to reduce its environmental impact," he said.
Computers are becoming less and less reusable, said Sheila Davis of the Silicon Valley Toxics Coalition. Incompatibility of components, the need for technical expertise and support, and software-license issues make reuse difficult.
"It's cheaper and a lot easier to buy a new machine now."
Governments, institutions and large businesses are trying to buy greener computers, said Davis. The Environmental Protection Agency is working to create a new "ecolabel" for computers made using less-toxic materials and processes. However, manufacturers are resisting any requirements to extend the life of a computer. "Longevity is a challenge to their current business model," she said.
According to the SVTC, the lifespan of a computer today is just two years.
Mark Newton, Dell Computer's environmental spokesman, said he thinks the lifespan is longer but could not offer an alternative number. Like most of the leading manufacturers, Dell has been refurbishing and reselling computers from its business markets for many years. A recycling program for consumer machines is about 18 months old. For a small fee, Dell will pick up old machines for recycling.
While the long-life, low-impact computer may be a dream, computer owners can do many things to lessen the environmental burden, said Williams. These include using a machine as long as possible, then donating or selling it and buying a used one. Turn off the machine at night and make sure stand-by modes are working -- networked machines are often kept awake by server traffic.
Government incentives are also needed, said Williams. The European Union will require the recycling of all computers by 2005. Though it's a step in the right direction, more needs to be done to increase the sustainability of computers, said Williams. Software license transfers could be made a great deal easier. And tax laws could be changed to allow write-offs for new computers over a longer period of time than three or four years.
"Tax laws ought to reward you for buying a used computer, rather than being penalized."
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bugman
Thanks for posting the article on computers and the environment. I feel good, as I haven't bought a new computer since the Atari I bought in '87 or so...
Fixed a lady's video card (no jokes, please!) today and arranged to get an old computer in trade for the work. Am thinking about using it as either a server, fixing it up to give to some needy kid, or as a Puppy beta-test computer. Depends on what the machine's actually like...
Does the Puppy beta-test team need any more help--help from a complete idiot?
Fixed a lady's video card (no jokes, please!) today and arranged to get an old computer in trade for the work. Am thinking about using it as either a server, fixing it up to give to some needy kid, or as a Puppy beta-test computer. Depends on what the machine's actually like...
Does the Puppy beta-test team need any more help--help from a complete idiot?
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We need all the idiots we can get. Even incomplete idiots welcome.bugman wrote: Does the Puppy beta-test team need any more help--help from a complete idiot?
Feedback is invaluable if constructive. It is one of the valuable ways non-programmers can contribute by testing and using components and new programs.
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We're all idiots in one area or another (sometimes in several areas...), but that just means we're experts in another. Plus, "idiots" in an area sometimes have insights that experts don't see, because they think in a different way.
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Well, I'm not gonna wind up getting the second box (ARGH!) and this one has to stay totally functional all the time so consider this idiot out--for now...
In case someone brings it up, our local thrift shop will not accept computers under ANY circumstances whatsoever, even though I'm in there EVERY day buying books and would take any and every one they got. They won't give my phone number to people attempting to donate them either, nada, zilch...
In case someone brings it up, our local thrift shop will not accept computers under ANY circumstances whatsoever, even though I'm in there EVERY day buying books and would take any and every one they got. They won't give my phone number to people attempting to donate them either, nada, zilch...
