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Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 02:38
by gennoveus
Hello
I'm was an Ubuntu user and I've just recently got into puppy linux - and I really love it.
I just about have everything set up as I like but I'm having a few issues with Japanese text. I work as a translator so I need this stuff to be working!
It was a breeze to get Japanese input working, but there are two (probably related) nagging problems this noob can't solve.
If you see the screenshot attachment to this post, you'll see that:
A) text in the top bar of dialog boxes appears as boxes (top of seamonkey) and...
B) File and folder names in rox show up as question marks.
Please help me! I didn't notice these problems until I had already spent ages getting my puppy setup just right, so I'd like to keep installing the Japanese version of puppy as a last resort. (as it means I'll have to do everything all over again)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 22:43
by shinobar
gennoveus wrote:I just about have everything set up as I like but I'm having a few issues with Japanese text. I work as a translator so I need this stuff to be working!
hi, gennoveus
The font names are wrong in .jwmrc, /.jwm/jwmrc-theme, .jwm/themes/xxx-xxx-jwmrc, /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, etc.
is to be
This link maybe a help.
but i recommend you puppy 4.30 japanese edition.
it is already set up as a japanese/english bilingual.
it is firstly all japanese, but you can change the locale to en_US.UTF-8 or any others.
then all desktop and applications turn to english and you can still read and write japanese.
puppy 4.30JP's final release shall be a couple of days after, but you can try it now by using the Releae Candidate.
Announcement
japanese forum
P.S.
I realized 4.30JP in locale other than ja_JP-UTF-8 does not display japanese at the title bar.
i will check it up.
Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 23:16
by YoN
gennoveus
Yes please try Puppy4.3 Japanese edition.
1: Boot from 4.3JP
2: Desktop > Chooselocale country localtion
3: Choose your locale. e.g. un_US: English, USA
4: Chick URF-8-encoding
5: Set your keyboad.
You can also use Japanese Input Method.
Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 23:25
by Makoto
I'm using Puppy 4.2.1, and have already managed to get Japanese to display properly in Seamonkey/Firefox (but not in the titlebar, as mentioned above). Is it easy to setup a way to enter Japanese text? I've been using JWPCE through WINE to enter text, then copy it to the clipboard and paste it where needed.
Is there even a Japanese-capable word processor available for Linux?
Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Posted: Sun 11 Oct 2009, 23:41
by shinobar
shinobar wrote:I realized 4.30JP in locale other than ja_JP-UTF-8 does not display japanese at the title bar.
It is tricky but set the locale to th_TH.UTF-8 on 4.30JP. Then the tile bar shows japanese, multibyte chalactors. zh/ko maybe does not because of lack of chinese/korean locale on puppy 4.3.
Makoto, we recomend you again puppy 4.30JP.
Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 00:25
by gennoveus
Yon
Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 09:07
by Makoto
shinobar wrote:Makoto, we recomend you again puppy 4.30JP.
I use an old Win98 machine (actually a Win98 system HD transplanted into what was originally a WinME tower), and I'm not sure it'll work with Puppy 4.3, yet. It does seem to require the Retro kernel. I'll probably try the Retro and non-Retro versions of 4.3 on this system sooner or later, to see if they work.
gennoveus: Thanks! (I would reply in Japanese, but I'm a bit rusty. (This, even considering I do some translation work, now and then, too...

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Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 12:06
by gennoveus
Oops sorry I thought you were Japanese!
Anyway, just click the link in my post above, it'll tell you exactly how to install Japanese input in older versions (in English)
I finished downloading the new Japanese version of 4.3 so I'll install that now ...

Re: Bilingual Japanese/English Puppy setup
Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 13:44
by shinobar
Makoto wrote:I use an old Win98 machine (actually a Win98 system HD transplanted into what was originally a WinME tower), and I'm not sure it'll work with Puppy 4.3, yet. It does seem to require the Retro kernel. I'll probably try the Retro and non-Retro versions of 4.3 on this system sooner or later, to see if they work.
Makoto,
the 4.30 japanese edition is provided with 3 different kernels, 4.30JP, 4.30stdJP, and 4.30retroJP.
hope you will find suitable one.
Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 19:04
by Makoto
gennoveus wrote:Oops sorry I thought you were Japanese!
Close.

It's just that while I work with the language, I haven't had many opportunities over the years to actually
speak it with someone else.

Also, I may tend to slip into informal/slang, which isn't necessarily a good idea.
Anyway, just click the link in my post above, it'll tell you exactly how to install Japanese input in older versions (in English)
I had checked the link. I don't think I would have minded if it were in Japanese, though.
shinobar wrote:Makoto,
the 4.30 japanese edition is provided with 3 different kernels, 4.30JP, 4.30stdJP, and 4.30retroJP.
hope you will find suitable one.
Ah, okay. Is that selected at boot?
I'll keep it in mind when I get around to trying 4.3. I haven't been in a hurry to test it because 4.2.1 works for me, though.

Posted: Mon 12 Oct 2009, 22:36
by YoN
For your information about Chooselocale country localisation:

Left button is "Restart X", Right one is "Done? or Finished"

I don't know Howto start IME in english keyboard.
But in Japanese 106 keyboard, hit left-upper key(left of "1,!" key).
These may be set by SCIM preference.
I think that there is a part where Japanese version 4.3 has advanced more than an English version.
Please experience a Japanese version 4.3 by all means.
Posted: Sat 17 Oct 2009, 03:52
by gennoveus
3日間
Posted: Tue 24 Nov 2009, 17:36
by ppenguin
I followed the links to both
http://www.puppylinux.ca/members/Irihapeti
and
http://www.puppylinux.asia/members/Irihapeti
but it says
Not Found
The requested URL /members/Irihapeti was not found on this server.
Were they permanently removed?
Posted: Wed 25 Nov 2009, 09:42
by YoN
Hi ppenguin,
Here on Shinobar's site, there are Puppy Linux Japanese latest editions ISOs.
http://122.102.213.192/puppy/pup4/
Latest one is pup-431JP-RC5.1125.4.iso
And 4.30JP edition is Here;
http://openlab.jp/puppylinux/index.html.en
Puppy 4.3.1 JP Final will be soon!!
If you can read Japanese, visit our japanese forum;
http://sakurapup.browserloadofcoolness.com/