Puppy 4.2 RC1 Deep Thought - Bugs & Fixes

[WhoDo]

If I recall well, programs like pidgin, which start iconized next to the volume and blinky ones, did start this way before rc1. This freed space to display running programs in the systray. Now in rc1 this isn't the case anymore.

I tried in JWM and there it is as before.

Other programs with this kind of operation are programs like MesNews and Pegasus mail in wine. Thy can be iconized as well in JWM, but not in Icewm.

A change in design?

More likely a change in the winoptions file installed with Icewm, Béèm. This behaviour in Icewm is controlled by the definitions in /root/.icewm/winoptions, so you can check the difference between the two versions using Xdiff-cut to see what may have changed. There may also be a minor variation in a parameter of the Icewm preferences file at play here too. I have used whatever was packaged as standard by ttuuxxx.

Hope that helps.

[WhoDo]

I have a sound problem , too ( and with 4.1.2). My sound card can't be found at all. Is this problem solved?

It would help to know which sound card, smooth!

[WhoDo]

Hiawatha will drop root privileges after startup by switching to user nobody. You can tell Hiawatha to switch to another user via de ServerId option"

This implies that Hiawatha is running as nobody when no ServerId is specified. What happens when ServerId is removed from the httpd.conf and Hiawatha restarted? It serves - in Unnamed at least. But runs as 65534!

Is nobody made correctly?

In this http://puppylinux.com/blog/?viewDetailed=00202 Barry mentions that Perl is started insecurely in 4.1alpha4 so the blog would be insecure anyway.

I have made ServerID root:root for testing. If that works I'll use that for the next release. It's intended only as a personal blog so people savvy enough to want to run it for a wider use should consider the security issues before doing so.

[WhoDo]

It's about time to replace the proprietary Adobe Flash plugin with Gnash

Perhaps, but not for Puppy 4.2 release. This would require much testing before it could be included and we are too far down the track for Puppy 4.2 to consider such a major change. Sorry.

[WhoDo]

- openssh 4.7 is in puppy 4.2 rc1? can't install 5.1 not uninstall 4.7 -

Hi yvonne. ...[snip]...

I made him a package a few days back on another post he made in a different thread and he hasn't reported back yet if it worked or not for him, kind of slack if you ask me.

Maybe SHE hasn't had an opportunity to test it yet?

[ttuuxxx]

Hi yvonne. ...[snip]...

I made him a package a few days back on another post he made in a different thread and he hasn't reported back yet if it worked or not for him, kind of slack if you ask me.

Maybe SHE hasn't had an opportunity to test it yet?

well its been like 3 days now, kind of slow,
Maybe SHIM (She/Him) hasn't had an opportunity to test it yet? Or maybe SHIM just doesn't care. Or maybe SHIM went on vacation, Or maybe SHIM 's pc broke down. Or maybe SHIM got lost on a nature trail hike.
lol ttuuxxx

[WhoDo]

well its been like 3 days now, kind of slow

True, but not everyone is like you and me, Jeff. Some people have a life outside of Puppy! Some responses to my fix suggestions have taken a week for people to come back, presumably because they only play with their Puppy at weekends! I know, I know that's sad, but not everyone is as lucky as you and me to be able to play with Puppy every single day and twice on Sunday! The miracle is that neither of us is divorced ... yet!

[Caneri]

The key word is chill...all things come to those whoDo wait...take a slower pace and let it just happen.

Hopefully there will be a build tree (svn/git) for the next release.

Eric

[ttuuxxx]

well its been like 3 days now, kind of slow

True, but not everyone is like you and me, Jeff. Some people have a life outside of Puppy! Some responses to my fix suggestions have taken a week for people to come back, presumably because they only play with their Puppy at weekends! I know, I know that's sad, but not everyone is as lucky as you and me to be able to play with Puppy every single day and twice on Sunday! The miracle is that neither of us is divorced ... yet!

So true the wife is always complaining, "You spend more time with that damn puppy than you do with me, !!!",, "You spend more time touching the keyboard then you do touching me,"
oh well what can you do, Its not like I like DR Phil or Oprah ,LOL she can keep her crappy tv shows, well be both like Boston Legal, Law & Order, 2 and 1/2 men and Life on Mars
ttuuxxx

[Caneri]

Hmmm...maybe I missed something in my 54 years of life.

I always thought that the soft curves of a woman trumped an oblique thought or software or most other things a man can think up.

I do understand the massive work going on, but to the men of Puppy...those soft curves are worth it...or am I wrong.

Even with the complaining?..that's yet to be decided for me as well..grr

Eric

[WhoDo]

Hmmm...maybe I missed something in my 54 years of life.

I always thought that the soft curves of a woman trumped an oblique thought or software or most other things a man can think up.

You missed absolutely nothing, mate! After the hot flushes comes the sore "points" and you don't get to caress them as much as you do a keyboard is all!

I may be 58 years old, but I still remember what the smooth curve of velvet skin feels like. *sigh*

[playdayz]

Hey, is Puppy the old guy's linux now? 58 here.

[ttuuxxx]

Well I'm glad I'm only 38Yrs old , And I consider myself as young, So puppy is for the young and old:)
ttuuxxx

[panzerpuppy]

Puppy is the old guy's linux!

Pizzasgood would love to hear that

[trio]

Well I'm glad I'm only 38Yrs old , And I consider myself as young, So puppy is for the young and old:)
ttuuxxx

1971 born, same as me...but whodo's right, not all people can play with puppy all day.......I actually have to earn my living work..work..and work....and these days?...hmm tougher..and tougher...to be honest..pupy's one of stress relief remedy...

[ttuuxxx]

Well I'm glad I'm only 38Yrs old , And I consider myself as young, So puppy is for the young and old:)
ttuuxxx

1971 born, same as me...but whodo's right, not all people can play with puppy all day.......I actually have to earn my living work..work..and work....and these days?...hmm tougher..and tougher...to be honest..pupy's one of stress relief remedy...

Yes I know the work well, I'll be going back to work in the very near future, My last job my boss was a jerk, so I gave my 2notice around 8weeks back, Just living off my savings, but my wife is complaining a lot so it looks like back to grindstone again, not sure what I'm going to do this time, I.T or construction work, I'm qualified in both. I like to work hard, but I also like air conditioning. I'll figure it out in the next week or 2.
ttuuxxx

[01micko]

Well my missus reckons I act like a teenager, (bands, rugby leauge..sometimes have to work like a 20 year old ) but I'm actually a father of 3 (youngest 11, oldest 22 years old) and a granddaddy of 2 (age 5 and 3). I feel like I'm 55 some times bot my mum was only 66 yesterday (hour and a half on the phone ), She had me when she was 22.

Ok there's the life story!

Can we fix wireless in 4.2 now?

[cthisbear]

" I always thought that the soft curves of a woman "

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What's it like?

http://www.jumpstation.ca/recroom/comed ... nudge.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ona-RhLfRfc

Chris

[ttuuxxx]

Ok there's the life story!

Can we fix wireless in 4.2 now?

Not yet!! ,LOL
My oldest boy of 21yrs, lives in the USA with his mom on and off, By youngest boy 19 lives in Canada with his mom, and my daughter 6yrs lives with me here in Australia We usually communicate over the web and on the phone. Yes I was young when I had my first son.
ttuuxxx

Ps now you can figure out your wireless issue, Do you know how I figured out my wireless problem?? I disabled wireless in the 4port modem router, I fixed it for good, Security in wireless Internet in Australia is terrible. I won't go near it.
ttuuxxx

[`f00]

Blackbox (blackbox.pet - from the Black Greyhound Ultra thread) and Afterstep (puppyluvr's AfterStep-2.2.8-i486.pet) are both okay in P4.20-rc1, with blackbox being a bit more compliant on the mainmenu. AS is a bit odd (likely may need to be recompiled? or whatever it takes to enable some of the apps to show, I tried hand editing to no avail) menu-wise, but the AS part works well - with the possible exception of a minor bobble in how it sets the bg .. the gui is flakey, but it does properly set its own /root/.afterstep/../0_background and other user mods. In previous pups, AS' mainmenu was more completely in sync with puppy's apps (many such as graphics are missing now but some categories like internet services and consoles are more robust). Wbar is very helpful for if the menu is 'off' a bit and if one is not very well versed in command line

Awww, tripping into another desk via scrollwheel is part of the experience! (of course much more positive with a keycombo, but .. when keycombos are different in each wm it can be less than habitual). I blame the maus mfg and drivers - a scrollwheelpress should probably not double as a middlebutton (personally I don't like to do the 'deathgrip+press' but until extra buttons are provided for in drivers in an easily doable config interface ... *cough*xorg*cough*).

Looks very good and stable so far from this viewpoint - quite good on saves now (using CDrw only) and even forgiving of many of my clumsies (only had it die without dialogue by surprise once or twice in Ice, and likely that's my own unfamiliarity there .. and trying to config Ice by the prefs file)

Hope the jwm-beta is good enough for an onboard option, it's a nice piece of work (along with MHHP's few bits .. not a good 1st experience when a n00B gets a "corrupt" message but balanced by that 'hey, it's not all that hard to hand-edit' toe in the water)