Puppy 4..2alpha "Deepthought" Bug Reports and Fixes

[WhoDo]

.....please include this theme in your icewm package. Ive seen a great many first reactions to linux, and this theme is the one that puts "linux newbs" at ease the most.

Well, you could always download it and several others in the WinXP-Ice.pet from the themes repository at puppylinux.ca ... just a thought. The XP Media Centre version (Royale) is particularly popular and quite a bit closer to the original than the one you have referenced. See what happens when you take a looonnnnggggg sabatical?

Hope that helps

[01micko]

WhoDo,
I'm trying hard with 'cups', it has caused me much grief but probably for the better. Networked over wireless is just plain not seen. I'll try local, at least then we have printing of some form!

[WhoDo]

I'll try local, at least then we have printing of some form!

Not being able to print locally is a "show-stopper" bug IMHO. There are very few things a distro absolutely MUST get right, and printing is one of them! The others are basic hardware recognition, easy web/lan access and simple installation. As you can see, printing is Puppy's achiles heel.

Keep at it, mate. Between you, ttuuxxx and rarsa it must be cracked before we get out of beta!

[01micko]

Man, it sucks big time
Printing for me is only successful from geany. It is not good! Mind you, I know nothing about it here. I'm using a canonMP180, it only has partial support. I had better success with this printer in Puppy 4! Why has it gone down hill? I had no success with ttuuxxx .pet at all. I tried all different ways. It is just a dog, sorry, pig (sorry ttuuxxx). I know the printer is unsupported but the MP150 and the MP700 and above all use the same drivers! Guttenprint and something else. Cups is owned by apple! Do you think they care about linux? Thankfully I dont do much printing! Photos I can print pictures for 10c offsite at some of the camera shops around. BUT for business printing is essential!

Come on people! I'm not the 'printer guy' (or girl)! Where is she! (or he)

[recycler]

On my gigabyte motherboard 4.1.1 uses intel8x0 8086:24d5(rev02) for sound. ie. Puppy has sound via the built in audio. Did a frugal install of 4.2alpha today - no sound. Ran the setup for sound a couple of times. An error message flashed up very quickly. Not possible to get sound. Checked 4.1.1 again and running sound setup there is no error....and sound works fine.

Sound works with 4.2 on a frugal install on a HPT240A.

IMHO background is rather grey. Liked the previous one better. Getting used to the new icons and like how it is developing.

[HairyWill]

@Warren
here is an updated .jwmrc-tray-top
and also /usr/local/ptray/func
I have modified the func file so that it uses the correct applications when you do a reset and it has an extended routine for searching for icons
here is the diff of func to save anyone else the bother of unzipping it to see what I have done

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# diff /usr/local/ptray/func /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/local/ptray/func
4a5
> 
17d17
< #hairywill clear out TMP in case the find returns nothing
25d24
<               grep -m 1 -A 1 $I $HOME/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer/globicons
27,33d25
< #hairywill
<               if [ -z "$ICON" ] ;then
<                       ICON="`cat $TMP | grep -m 1 Icon | cut -d '=' -f 2`"
<                       [ "$ICON" ] && ICON=$(find /usr -name "$ICON" | head -1)
< #hairywill firepup doesn't come with an executable called firepup
<                       [ "$I" = "firefox" ] && ICON="/usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/www48.png"
<               fi
44a37
>   <TrayButton popup="Lock screen" icon="lock-screen48.png">exec:xlock</TrayButton>
61,63c54
<       echo "rox
< firefox
< rxvt
---
>       echo "rxvt
68c59,60
< galculator" > $HOME/.ptray/tmp/ptray_list
---
> cups_shell
> calcoo" > $HOME/.ptray/tmp/ptray_list

[HairyWill]

you were looking for more loop device nodes

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mknod /dev/loop5 b: 7 5
mknod /dev/loop6 b: 7 6
mknod /dev/loop7 b: 7 7
mknod /dev/loop8 b: 7 8

I think that either you will need to pack the nodes into initrd.gz or you will need to run the above every boot.

[HairyWill]

filemnt complains when you try to use it on a file with the same name as one that is already mounted. Disabling this check will also allow you to mount the same file twice, I don't see this as particularly dangerous. I often want to mount a different pup_save.2fs from a different puppy version.
Here is the patch for /usr/sbin/filemnt

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# diff /usr/sbin/filemnt /initrd/pup_ro2/usr/sbin/filemnt    
37d36
<  #hairywill 25 Jan 09 disabling this check, it stops user mounting identically named files
39,42c38,41
< #  for ONELOOP in `mount | grep '^/dev/loop' | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | tr '\n' ' '`
< #  do
< #   MNTDIMG="`losetup-FULL $ONELOOP | cut -f 2 -d '(' | cut -f 1 -d ')'`"
< #    IMGBASE="`basename "$MNTDIMG"`"
---
>   for ONELOOP in `mount | grep '^/dev/loop' | cut -f 1 -d ' ' | tr '\n' ' '`
>   do
>    MNTDIMG="`losetup-FULL $ONELOOP | cut -f 2 -d '(' | cut -f 1 -d ')'`"
>     IMGBASE="`basename "$MNTDIMG"`"
45,49c44,48
< #      if [ "$IMGBASE" = "$imgFileBASE" ];then #if [ "$MNTDIMG" = "$imgFile" ];then
< #      xmessage "Sorry $imgFile is already mounted and in-use by Puppy"
< #      exit
< #    fi
< #  done
---
>     if [ "$IMGBASE" = "$imgFileBASE" ];then #if [ "$MNTDIMG" = "$imgFile" ];then
>      xmessage "Sorry $imgFile is already mounted and in-use by Puppy"
>      exit
>     fi
>   done
# 

[ecomoney]

There are very few things a distro absolutely MUST get right, and printing is one of them!

To true, I have never had success (in two years of using puppy) in getting a usb printer to work, even locally.

Pakt worked on the origional cups addon for pre-cups puppies. I havnt seen him around much recently, maybe worth giving him a pm.

[rarsa]

Interesting, rarsa. Can you post a screenshot of the particular contrast problem you have noticed?

what a coincidence! the screenshot you have in your post right after your response shows the contrast issue. Gray over gray menus make it quite difficult to focus.

I have a 20/20 sight with no history of colour blindness and I still have to make an effort to focus with such a low contrast

Here I've changed the menu foreground to white and the active foreground to black.

It still keeps the aesthetic balance of the original but adds contrast.



Although the original colours are very well coordinated and would look great for other design purposes, for a UI, contrast is important.

Note***
I know I have bad memory but sometimes I even surprise myself. Although this may seem as an annoying repost of a comment on the Desktop and artwork thread, the fact is that I had totally forgotten about posting the original message.

My apologies.

[veronicathecow]

Hi, I must agree with Ecomoney that an XP look alike will make transition to windows easier for people. I am hoping in the next few months to set up a training facility with 10-12 puppy machines at the local volunteer centre and this would be ideal.
Cheers
Tony

[technosaurus]

I just updated the Puppy home page with a link to the web desktop so that any updates/improvements would be available

For Macpup I just did an automatic redirect with a link to the local internet how-to (so that if it doesn't connect it tells you how to) if that is preferable

[Pizzasgood]

Just In case anyone was confused about what I was babbling about yesterday, I misread a post and then goofed up and quoted the wrong part of it. I edited my post:

OK, here we go: When first booted 4.2 I forgot to type pfix=ram, so it found my pup_save.2fs on sdb4. Then this happened: after loading the pup_save file it said copying the pup_420.sfs to sdb4!

Bad Puppy! BAD. I will look at that when I get some more free time. IMHO, pfix=ram should not change any data on the harddrive. Leave no trace should be the idea. Shouldn't be hard to fix. Simple if statement.

EDIT: First, I goofed up my quote and requoted the first one instead of what I was replying to. Second, I misread it and didn't see the word "forgot", so I though you meant Puppy did that even after using pfix=ram. Never mind then. Sorry Puppy. Good Puppy. Have a biscuit.

Though, I do question the wisdom of copying things to the drive without asking first, but that isn't nearly as wrong as it would have been if it did it when pfix=ram was in use.

[Caneri]

Anything copied to a hdd from a live cd is taboo in my mind.

Never,never copy to hdd or anything else (ram is ok) ...if I missed the point sorry but that's a BIG no no...even with puppy pfix=ram...don't go there as it will be a entry point for hackers.

Eric

[WhoDo]

Here I've changed the menu foreground to white and the active foreground to black.

It still keeps the aesthetic balance of the original but adds contrast.

Thanks, rarsa. I will modify the default theme as suggested.

Cheers

[01micko]

@ttuuxxx, apologies to you mate, your cups package works just fine!

@WhoDo, I got my CanonMP180 to work with GuttenPrint. I went to Souceforge and got the latest version 5.02, and compiled it. It is a 4667k .tar.bz2 file. We have it on the official repo in .pet form but it is version 5.01. Guttenprint has support for heaps of printers, so the good news is that printing is not broken in Puppy!

[WhoDo]

@Hairywill - thanks for the patches and updates above. All downloaded for inclusion ASAP. Much appreciated, mate.

Cheers

[ecomoney]

Will the updated kernel for extra .sfs files be incorporated into the next alpha...might be a good idea to test it early.

The new transmission is great, can we have downloaded .torrent files (in firepup or seamonkey) open automatically in it.

Im just thinking for the browser, we are missing big useability/prime advertising space with not having predefined bookmarks. These can help guide the new puppy user around the various puppy websites, as well as provide convenient links to the most well used sites around the web.

The list of bookmarks I use for ecopup (cybercafe derived puppy) is here.. You can actually download this file and add it easily to seamonkey by using the html import feature under "manage bookmarks". Its then a matter of drag-n-dropping them onto the bookmarks toolbar, which is invisible by default on current seamonkeys.

[01micko]

@ttuuxxx, apologies to you mate, your cups package works just fine!

@WhoDo, I got my CanonMP180 to work with GuttenPrint. I went to Souceforge and got the latest version 5.02, and compiled it. It is a 4667k .tar.bz2 file. We have it on the official repo in .pet form but it is version 5.01. Guttenprint has support for heaps of printers, so the good news is that printing is not broken in Puppy!

As was kindly ponted out to me Gutenprint is up to 5.2.3. I've downloaded it and will compile.

Techno. Is there a tut for tar.bz22pet?

EDIT: the 5.2.3 Guttenprint works fine. The repo needs updating. 5.0.2 is over a year old, there have been thousands of new printer models since then, and linux is always a little behind anyway due to lack of manufacturer support,

[WhoDo]

Techno. Is there a tut for tar.bz22pet?

EDIT: the 5.2.3 Guttenprint works fine.

Just unpack the file into a new folder called Guttenprint-5.2.3 and then use dir2pet to pack it again.

Hope that helps