Puppy Squeeze 009 Development
Hmm... just read luci 238 thread of latest events and that was after I wrote above suggestion. Now I would post much more critical comment. But I wont post anymore of this thing. I promise.
And I wasnt negative, I would call it realistic and fearful comment.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 737#469737
And I wasnt negative, I would call it realistic and fearful comment.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 737#469737
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If you are speaking to me, I didn't do anything special but quote and reply.maxpro4u wrote:how do you get the pic to show up instead of just a link to the pic?tubeguy wrote:Nah, science fiction.Béèm wrote:hmmmm, you're still under influence of Halloween?
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All these nested quotes are getting trippy.Béèm wrote:If you are speaking to me, I didn't do anything special but quote and reply.maxpro4u wrote:how do you get the pic to show up instead of just a link to the pic?tubeguy wrote: Nah, science fiction.
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Yay, kernel 2.6.36.1 and 2.6.32.26 are out ... and Aufs for 2.6.36.x is finally ready!
At the moment I started working on a 2.6.36.1 kernel for Insidious Puppy. If it doesn't work well, I'll compile 2.6.32.26. I want to try both and see which one is better.
This thing looks really really good and I think it's time to upload Insidious Puppy 001. I want it to have Iceweasel and Sylpheed and just the DejaVu fonts to save some precious ISO size. Fonts are huge.
EDIT: I'm working on 2.6.32.26, I want to make an "ultimate" kernel with wireless-compat - a rock-solid 2.6.32.x with modem drivers, ndiswrapper and the latest wireless drivers.

At the moment I started working on a 2.6.36.1 kernel for Insidious Puppy. If it doesn't work well, I'll compile 2.6.32.26. I want to try both and see which one is better.
This thing looks really really good and I think it's time to upload Insidious Puppy 001. I want it to have Iceweasel and Sylpheed and just the DejaVu fonts to save some precious ISO size. Fonts are huge.
EDIT: I'm working on 2.6.32.26, I want to make an "ultimate" kernel with wireless-compat - a rock-solid 2.6.32.x with modem drivers, ndiswrapper and the latest wireless drivers.
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I just tried to install GIMP via Puppy Package Manager.
After considerable efforts to capture all of the missing dependencies when I open GIMP from the Console (no entry was added to Menu) I get this:
After considerable efforts to capture all of the missing dependencies when I open GIMP from the Console (no entry was added to Menu) I get this:
# gimp
GIMP-Warning: Bad interpreter referenced in interpreter file /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/interpreters/pygimp.interp: /usr/bin/python
GIMP-Warning: Bad interpreter referenced in interpreter file /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/interpreters/pygimp.interp: /usr/bin/python
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
env: python: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser: error while loading shared libraries: libwebkit-1.0.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
(gimp:4302): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp: gimp_wire_read(): error
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gimp
There are a couple versions here that were posted awhile back:
http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/index.php?dir=gimp
http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/index.php?dir=gimp
Wow, an awful lot of variations on a theme there.
Sure would be nice if there was a text file associated that explained the differences.
I have downloaded this one and will give it a try ... after I UN-load the incomplete one via Puppy Package Manager.
http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/gi ... queeze.pet
EDIT: GIMP loaded and appears to work but there are still a bunch of error messages. Will find some time to test it out and report the results.
Sure would be nice if there was a text file associated that explained the differences.
I have downloaded this one and will give it a try ... after I UN-load the incomplete one via Puppy Package Manager.
http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/gi ... queeze.pet
EDIT: GIMP loaded and appears to work but there are still a bunch of error messages. Will find some time to test it out and report the results.
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The new 2.6.32.26 is ready!
Now I want to build a first Insidious Puppy with this kernel and compile third-party drivers. Basically, it's possible to do this while running another kernel but some drivers do blind assumptions according to the kernel they compile on and I don't want to take any risks that can be avoided.
So ... what I need in order to release Insidious Puppy 001 (or 5.0, haven't decided yet) is:
- Modem drivers (separate PETs, one for each driver)
- ndiswrapper (separate PET)
- nvidia drivers (my vision is all three drivers but the latest one should be enough, I still need to learn how to make nvidia PETs)
- Any other useful third-party drivers
- Testing!
The list is quite long in terms of work to do, but it won't take very long. I'm going to be busy on this week but I'm going to quit my job on Tuesday, so I want to make a good use of the next week. I'll compile the modem drivers and ndiswrapper first, probably within 1-3 days.
EDIT:

Now I want to build a first Insidious Puppy with this kernel and compile third-party drivers. Basically, it's possible to do this while running another kernel but some drivers do blind assumptions according to the kernel they compile on and I don't want to take any risks that can be avoided.
So ... what I need in order to release Insidious Puppy 001 (or 5.0, haven't decided yet) is:
- Modem drivers (separate PETs, one for each driver)
- ndiswrapper (separate PET)
- nvidia drivers (my vision is all three drivers but the latest one should be enough, I still need to learn how to make nvidia PETs)
- Any other useful third-party drivers
- Testing!
The list is quite long in terms of work to do, but it won't take very long. I'm going to be busy on this week but I'm going to quit my job on Tuesday, so I want to make a good use of the next week. I'll compile the modem drivers and ndiswrapper first, probably within 1-3 days.
EDIT:
agrsm-11c11040-2.1.80-20091225-patched1-k2.6.32.26.pet
linux_kernel-2.6.32.26-pentium2-bfs.pet
ltmodem-20100102-k2.6.32.26.pet
ndiswrapper-1.56-k2.6.32.26.pet
nvidia-260.19.21-k2.6.32.26.pet
pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-11-patched1-k2.6.32.26.pet
slmodem-2.9.11-20100303-patched1-k2.6.32.26.pet
ungrab_winmodem-20090716-k2.6.32.26.pet

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More progress!
At the moment I'm building another Puppy, this time with the new kernel. I want to boot this thing to test the multimedia stack and compile all the third-party drivers. This one also has Iceweasel with DownThemAll and FlashBlock
My plan is nvidia drivers, ndiswrapper, modem drivers and maybe other drivers like acx ... and I want to make sure everything works well so I can finally release it
At the moment I'm building another Puppy, this time with the new kernel. I want to boot this thing to test the multimedia stack and compile all the third-party drivers. This one also has Iceweasel with DownThemAll and FlashBlock

My plan is nvidia drivers, ndiswrapper, modem drivers and maybe other drivers like acx ... and I want to make sure everything works well so I can finally release it

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Just found out that dpup-009 is missing the whole grub commands except grubconfig
# grub TABTAB
grub grub-floppy grub-md5-crypt grub-set-default
grubconfig grub-install grub-reboot grub-terminfo
and
/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/e2fs_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/fat_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/jfs_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/minix_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/reiserfs_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage1 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/xfs_stage1_5
# grub TABTAB
grub grub-floppy grub-md5-crypt grub-set-default
grubconfig grub-install grub-reboot grub-terminfo
and
/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/e2fs_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/fat_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/jfs_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/minix_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/reiserfs_stage1_5 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage1 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2 /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/xfs_stage1_5
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Uploaded a "release candidate", it's here. The directory also has the nvidia driver.
Now I'm working on more stuff:
- Enabled font antialiasing by default; fonts look good in Iceweasel
- Removed the first-run wizard because the new one from Woof is good
- Small cosmetic changes and minor fixes
The modifications done to Woof are:
- DISTRO_SPECS, DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-debian-sid, DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS-debian-sid
- /root/.gtkrc-2.0, the default font is set to DejaVu Sans 12
- /root/Xdefaults, I removed the quotes around "white smoke" in the last line as suggested by upnorth
- The package templates I made
- Insidious Puppy requires the ntfs-3g and ghostscript templates to be deleted
- The deb2ppm I wrote is used to convert Debian package lists into PPM ones instead of the slow Bash code Barry wrote
- The removedup script I wrote (which removes duplicate entries for the same package) needs go over Packages-debian-sid-main and Packages-puppy-sid-multimedia-main so ffmpeg and mplayer are found only on the latter.
I wait for the next Woof so I can do a straight build of this thing ... it looks good. Time to go gold
Now I'm working on more stuff:
- Enabled font antialiasing by default; fonts look good in Iceweasel
- Removed the first-run wizard because the new one from Woof is good
- Small cosmetic changes and minor fixes
The modifications done to Woof are:
- DISTRO_SPECS, DISTRO_PKGS_SPECS-debian-sid, DISTRO_COMPAT_REPOS-debian-sid
- /root/.gtkrc-2.0, the default font is set to DejaVu Sans 12
- /root/Xdefaults, I removed the quotes around "white smoke" in the last line as suggested by upnorth
- The package templates I made
- Insidious Puppy requires the ntfs-3g and ghostscript templates to be deleted
- The deb2ppm I wrote is used to convert Debian package lists into PPM ones instead of the slow Bash code Barry wrote
- The removedup script I wrote (which removes duplicate entries for the same package) needs go over Packages-debian-sid-main and Packages-puppy-sid-multimedia-main so ffmpeg and mplayer are found only on the latter.
I wait for the next Woof so I can do a straight build of this thing ... it looks good. Time to go gold

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I am in Insidious using IceWeasel.
It loaded easily and runs quickly.
No problems with video-drivers or wireless on my Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 -- a real problem with several of the other newer Puppies.
Is there an E-mail app that automatically links to IceWeasel so that clicking on URL's in an E-mail opens an IceWeasel window and clicking on an E-mail address in IceWeasel opens E-mail?
That is the primary feature that has kept me in Seamonkey - it was just too much hassle to fight with reliable integration in the past.
I'm fine with IceWeasel if Thunderbird or another similar E-mail app is easily integrated. I have the Calendar plugin but don't use it and prefer manual HTML (cleaner and more easily edited and repaired), so I don't require the extras of Seamonkey.
You may want to wait to hear from other users before doing any extra work.
Thanks for the new Puppy!
It loaded easily and runs quickly.
No problems with video-drivers or wireless on my Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 -- a real problem with several of the other newer Puppies.
Is there an E-mail app that automatically links to IceWeasel so that clicking on URL's in an E-mail opens an IceWeasel window and clicking on an E-mail address in IceWeasel opens E-mail?
That is the primary feature that has kept me in Seamonkey - it was just too much hassle to fight with reliable integration in the past.
I'm fine with IceWeasel if Thunderbird or another similar E-mail app is easily integrated. I have the Calendar plugin but don't use it and prefer manual HTML (cleaner and more easily edited and repaired), so I don't require the extras of Seamonkey.
You may want to wait to hear from other users before doing any extra work.
Thanks for the new Puppy!
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You can't replace the kernel easily, it's quite complicated - here.
Both kernels are pretty much the same, so there's no reason to do this unless you really want the extra optimizations
Both kernels are pretty much the same, so there's no reason to do this unless you really want the extra optimizations

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Puppy Squeeze 009 Development
I installed inpu-001.iso to a flash drive with bootflash.
Installed the nvidia.pet.
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
32695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6538.935 FPS
50600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10119.988 FPS
63044 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12608.689 FPS
53668 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10733.454 FPS
54360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10871.868 FPS
35717 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7143.334 FPS
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev
Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.32.26 (i686)
Compiled #2 SMP Tue Nov 23 21:36:48 GMT-8 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)
Default C Compiler GNU C Compiler version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 260.19.21
Direct Rendering Yes
The welcome screen comes up every bootup.
I installed flash in iceweasel and the cnn and youtube videos play
okay but you have to click on the logo in the video to get it going.
Just had a quick look, will play more later
Installed the nvidia.pet.
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
32695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6538.935 FPS
50600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10119.988 FPS
63044 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12608.689 FPS
53668 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10733.454 FPS
54360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10871.868 FPS
35717 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7143.334 FPS
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001
Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev
Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia
Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"
...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.32.26 (i686)
Compiled #2 SMP Tue Nov 23 21:36:48 GMT-8 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)
Default C Compiler GNU C Compiler version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 260.19.21
Direct Rendering Yes
The welcome screen comes up every bootup.
I installed flash in iceweasel and the cnn and youtube videos play
okay but you have to click on the logo in the video to get it going.
Just had a quick look, will play more later

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Yep, it's FlashBlock, comes pre-installed. I think I'll remove it ... more choice.
Thanks for the input - I removed the welcome screen because the Woof one is good enough (and I know what went wrong - I renamed the script, so it no longer deletes itself)
EDIT: I want to the modularity experiment till Monday - make an ISO with a zdrv and make a SFS of xorg_high, Iceape and the fixes. My size estimatation is 130-135 MB.
Thanks for the input - I removed the welcome screen because the Woof one is good enough (and I know what went wrong - I renamed the script, so it no longer deletes itself)

EDIT: I want to the modularity experiment till Monday - make an ISO with a zdrv and make a SFS of xorg_high, Iceape and the fixes. My size estimatation is 130-135 MB.
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Thought I was in the same boat....no interface was detected here either(wired dsl).SNS was a dead end but was able to use Network wizard to manually load the necessary module and get online. Posting from 001 now.tubeguy wrote:inpu 001, could not connect to wired network. Hardinfo sees my ethernet card but network tools don't.