Legacy OS (TEENpup) Feedback is it booting?

[john biles]

Hello Sylvander,
WOT? are you saying the site is good or bad?

Hello smokey01,
Thank you for hosting! Maybe don922 can finally download an iso that matches the md5sum.

[James C]

WOT is Web of Trust, a browser addon that rates and reviews websites.
http://www.mywot.com

According to the ratings and reviews the site is safe.

[bodbozzle]

edited
It is booting!
AMD Athlon XP

[john biles]

Hello bodbozzle,
What make and model of PC / Laptop do you own and how old is it?
Do you know the make and model of the CD / DVD Drive installed?
With over 7000 downloads there's been few complaints of booting problems.

[don922]

I have downloaded Legacy OS one & a piece more times from SoftPedia (the partial download failed about 3/4 way through and would not resume). This was downloaded with ProZilla, but the md5sum failed on the complete download.

I have downloaded Legacy OS one time from the Smokie01 website with pwget and the md5sum failed. I had to use pwget because I can not get ProZilla to work with the required username and password.

I couldn't find where to download (free) on the freshwap website. It may have a good rating -- it seems flacky to me.

Meanwhile, I was able to download and got good md5sums on Puppy214X-RC5.iso and minipup2.02.iso as a test to determine if I could sucessfully download an iso.

I think the trouble I am having with Legacy OS must be due to it's size.

[bodbozzle]

Hello John,
Legacy OS booted on an other PC.
It looks beautiful and it takes more time to explore.
Sorry for causing confusion.
I tried booting Legacy OS on an eee 1000H although it was not intended for that.
(eee and external usb drive)
Thanks a lot!

[Lobster]

booted OK on my Athlon 64 dual processor
It was slow to boot as it is large (seemed 2-3 minutes boot)
and maybe that could be fixed by using Puppy pfix=noram
during boot (if available)

Seems a lot to explore including tutorials and documentation
and a host of programs

[gnomic]

Legacy ran on a couple of generic desktop PCs

P4 1.6 GHz w/ 768 MB RAM and a Matrox G550 video card.

Celeron D 2.8 GHz, AOpen mobo, 1.5 G RAM, nvidia 64MB GeForce 4 MX440.

On both machines it booted into RAM, quite snappily on the Celeron, but took a while on the P4.

Also tried on a ThinkPad Z60m with i915, 1.86 GHZ Pentium M, 1G RAM. This booted but took 5 minutes + I think, didn't time it. Will try again to give a more precise timing. This machine has a slightly oddball arrangement wrt the hard drive iirc, the mobo is sata but the disk is plain old ide with some kind of adapter between them.

[breversa]

G'day John Biles/Van Gaans !

First of all, let me thank you for your work on Legacy OS and your motivation for doing it, as I LOVE using Linux to give a second life to old hardware (after all, Earth does NOT ONLY belong to the one(s) who pay(s) the bills !).


I tried Legacy OS 2010 on a +/- year 2000 Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600 laptop (Pentium III 700MHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB HDD), and while it DOES BOOT, it hangs after the Xorg/Xvesa graphics server choice.

I've opened a topic on that subject here : http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60425.


I also gave it a try on a more recent Toshiba Tecra A4 (Pentium M 740 1.73GHz, 1024 MB RAM, 80GB HDD), and it boots and runs flawlessly.

[gnomic]

Just updating last post about the ThinkPad Z60m, keeping an eye on the time it took 6 minutes or more to get a desktop. Slowest of the machines I have tried for some reason, 1.86 GHZ and 1G RAM so not challenged for CPU or memory.

[cretsiah]

been awhile since I've been around puppy, and was interested in something to run on an ibm laptop.

got this laptpop on Saturday 04/12/2010 and started to test today 06/12/2010.

SPECS: (i dont know all of them sorry)

brand: IBM A21M
Video card: 8 meg ATI 2x agp
CPU: Xeon/Celeron 800MHZ
RAM: 128 meg (however only 127 megs register in bios load-out suggesting a 1meg cache or something)

did it
Boot = yes
run off CD = yes
use Xorg = yes
use swap drive = no


boot time to me seemed to be the equivalent of original puppy's 2.14 through to 4.0 ... which even on my faster units in vm or direct was around 1-3 minutes not including network setup times.

hope that helps

John Biles

see other feedback page for other info

[john biles]

Hello cretsiah,

hope that helps

Yes it does, Thanks

[breversa]

Hi guys,

I successfully tried Legacy OS on a Compaq Evo, and I was amazed how fast it could run SuperTux !

However, I think it does not shutdown properly...

I'll post the specs later when I'm back home, just for the record.

EDIT :
Here are the specs :

Compaq Evo N1015v

Processor : Mobile AMD Athlon XP 1500+
Memory : 190MB
Graphic card : ATI Radeon Mobility U1
Display : 1024x768x24
Multimedia audio controller : ALi M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
Ethernet controller : Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+

It boots, runs off CD, use Xorg, and shuts down properly (contrarily to what I said earlier).

[moB]

Here are some of my TEENpup boot experiences.

Runs from CD very well.

Runs in VBox (Raw disc access) from within msWin. Also boots from grub4dos at machine startup.

Using swap drive in VBox (2GB) and a swapfile (100KB) for actual-box.

Running msWin in ntfs partiton and GNU/linux on ext3 partition.

I do love frugal installs. This puppy likes full better. I'd rather not switch back. Makes a mess of my partition
As for booting Puppy 431 and this simply put sda instead of hda in 321's stanza.
Worked on my (now dead) XP/Mint/Puppy431/TeenPup/NOP/TinyCore box.
Old things break down & die. I will too one day.

Maybe full install into a directory (co-exist mode) is worth trying after all?


Booting from HD using nooby's tip from MinHund root=/dev/ram0 along with with acpi=off.
This avoids kernel panic about VFS and the "ERROR, cannot find Puppy on..." errors.

I noyiced this...
There is a splitting, or forking, of the `path' during boot which depends on whether cd is in tray or nay. Odd behaviour.

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Without CD in tray:

Mounting /dev/hda2 on (/initrd)/mnt/dev_ro1...
Creating tmpfs for pup_214.sfs on (/initrd)/mnt/tmpfs...
Copying pup_214.sfs to tmpfs..._



Very slow in virtual machine. Three minutes and I can wait no longer!
Only a few seconds at this stage on actual machine (Dell Dimension 4500s; P4 1.79 GHz, 1.12 GB RAM).


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With CD in tray:

Mounting /dev/hda2 on (/initrd)/mnt/dev_save...
Mntg pup_214.sfs directly off /dev/hda2 onto (/initrd)/pup_ro2...
Mounting pup_save.2fs on pup_rw...
Creating unionfs on (/initrd)/pup_new (to become '/')...


Then rc.init runs. Very fast. VBox: 60 seconds from grub to theme music.
Its faster on actual system.
VM has only 512 MB RAM and a virtual swap drive (a file) and must share CPU cycles.

===========================================

Too bad window does not resize as Puppy 4.31 or lucid does in VM.

Must change to Xorg for physical machine and Xvesa for VBox. Otherwise screen resolution is bad. Odd.


The disc/no-disc boot differentiation occurs after kernel booted as removing disc at this time causes `no disc' behavior.

For safety boot.ini has GNU/linux as default boot option. We don't want msWin meeting itself!
The "Default Boot" option below passes control back to msWin's boot.ini.

Code: Select all

# Grub boot menu 
#
  color green/black yellow/black
  timeout=13
  default=1
#
  title Default Boot (WinXP)
  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
  chainloader +1
  boot
#
  title TinyCore 3.3
  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
  kernel /TC/bzImage vga=771 xvesa=800x600x24 norestore home=hda2 tce=hda2
  initrd /TC/tinycore.gz
#
  title TEENpup
  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 acpi=off pmedia=atahd
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro acpi=off pmedia=atahd or idehd
  initrd /initrd.gz
#

[nitehawk]

johnbiles,...
Just have to say that LegacyOS is running great on my Dell Optiplex PIII Coppermine (1Ghz--512ram--160hd) ..full install. Love it! Thanks for all the hard work you put into this. I'm putting it on my older HP Vectra PIII (933Mhz--384ram--40Ghd) should work great there, too.

[john biles]

Hello nitehawk,
Always good to hear that someone is getting good use out of it. I'm currently working on improving it more and will release Legacy OS 2 late January early February all going well. If the current Legacy OS runs on yur PC then the new one will to.

I've created a new look for it that's a bit lighter that should hopefully go down well with users.

[slenkar]

I installed it to the hard drive and shut down the PC, then It asked me to save the state file and I chose a place to save it.

Then when i rebooted my PC it said grub error 15 and wont go into grub, so effectively the PC is bricked.

When I was installing I choose not to alter the MBR, was that the reason?

Also it complained of a missing file so I dont think it installed properly

[john biles]

Hello slenkar,
All you should need to do is reboot Legacy OS again running from the Live CD, partition your Hard Drive again with ext2 and 500 Mb's of Swap, run the installer and select install MBR when asked. On shutdown after install do not save any state file or anything else. Upon restart you will be asked to set the screen size etc and your done.

Good Luck!

[slenkar]

thanks it works now