Puppy 2.15CE "Viz" - Look and Feel

[cb88]

I have a vista blue theme I have been working on how can I upload it ?
So far the right window border doesn't work properly and the buttons on inactive windows don't change on mouse over.
The theme is 137k zipped

[WhoDo]

I have a vista blue theme I have been working on how can I upload it ?
So far the right window border doesn't work properly and the buttons on inactive windows don't change on mouse over.
The theme is 137k zipped

Just attach it to your post here and I'll download and have a look, or send me a PM with the theme attached. Once it's debugged you can upload to puppystuff.

Cheers

[cb88]

there is a screenshot in the puppy 2.xx screenschots with the Vista Blue theme I made. As I said before suggestions are welcome.
Edit:I fogot to tell you that I also changed those X icons in the window title bars I have read many complaints about those. I cleared out all the irrelevant clutter in my post. basically when uploading click add attachment and not submit then click submit . This theme is not finished so it has bugs (some things don't render properly) even though as far as I can tell myself it is complete.

[WhoDo]

Here is a screenshot of what could be released this weekend as Puppy 2.15CE RC3. Enjoy!

[WhoDo]

there is a screenshot in the puppy 2.xx screenschots with the Vista Blue theme I made. As I said before suggestions are welcome.

Hi cb88,

I've had a play with your Vista Blue theme, but I have no idea why that right hand window border isn't rendering correctly.

As far as suggestions, I'd stick with simply reversing the buttons for active/inactive windows, and get rid of the colored borders to those buttons - black only. Too many colors will detract from your very nice blue theme. What about a blue puppy paw in place of the X logo?

Apart from the weird rendering on the window frame, it looks good. Might be worth reverting to a normal frame and making your statement with the title bar instead?

Cheers

[gliezl]

wonderful screenshots!
Excellent work Warren.

[richard.a]

gliezl, yes. As we used to say "back home", "he's a good lad" lol

I think you got us all thinking with your original proposal too.

Richard

[richard.a]

This is a "Look and Feel" thought that I haven't seen voiced here - or for the overall Puppy project, either. Doesn't mean nobody has voiced it, just that I've missed it, if it has been.

I've been meaning to get round to posting it for months, but I somehow never get any of Warren's ellusive "tuits".

MUT.

I like the concept. However, I do think the GUI needs a face-lift, bringing it up to date visually, perhaps a change in background colour would help.

Certainly a change in the font size - or maybe the ability to change the font size.

What do you reckon?

Richard

[richard.a]

Here now is where I think we should be going for Puppy 2.15CE Final. Any comments?

Notice the beautiful "shadow" from the Abiword icon on the desktop gives the image depth and makes the ice icons "float" above the desktop?

Warren, yes, that's what I'm looking forward to, fully working

And yes, I do think the icons are absolutely gorgeous. Didn't really care for them to begin with, but they grow on you. Very glad you took that punt and weren't discouraged by flack from the rest of us

Richard

[WhoDo]

This is a "Look and Feel" thought that I haven't seen voiced ...[snip]... MUT.

I like the concept. However, I do think the GUI needs a face-lift, bringing it up to date visually, perhaps a change in background colour would help.

Certainly a change in the font size - or maybe the ability to change the font size.

I believe BarryK was going to try and rebuild MUT since Jesse hasn't been around for a while. I don't know where that's up to. In the meantime Pmount has been overhauled and has many of the GUI features you're enquiring about. There is very little to choose between the two at the moment, except that sometimes one will "see" a drive that the other doesn't.

Hope that helps.

[Springer]

WhoDo:

VERY, VERY nice job. That's the kind of professional look I've been hoping to see in Puppy since I first loaded it and was blown away by the elegant leanness of the system's architecture. Amazing what a little grooming can do for a pup! (As I know well, since I actually do have springers, and they're due for their spring clip tomorrow.)

2.15CE is shaping up to be a fantastic release - much more than just a consolidation release, really, if you consider the huge change of using the SFS add-ons for customization, instead of different ISOs.

Which raises a question: Is there going to be an SFS installer/manager? (Well, not in 2.15, but maybe later?) I could see two parts - one, a desktop app that lets you choose what SFS modules you want to (down)load/install and another in the boot menu, giving you the chance to, say, decide you'd like to override your "normal" config and boot this time with the dev SFS installed and the graphics SFS temporarily disabled, for instance. This would be very different from most other distros, but powerfully easy.

BTW, I think things are reasonably well optimized w.r.t. boot process now, but I found a decent IBM article on boot streamlining that was published last week: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/l ... tLinuxBoot

With the automatic desktop icon and menu updates that are in the works to adapt to the SFS disks available, I think the Puppy SFS suite system is going to be a *really* slick setup.

Again, thanks to all for a great job. I've been busy and may not have time to try RC2 before you ship RC3, but I'm looking forward to playing with the new pup.

[WhoDo]

VERY, VERY nice job. That's the kind of professional look I've been hoping to see in Puppy since I first loaded it and was blown away by the elegant leanness of the system's architecture. Amazing what a little grooming can do for a pup! (As I know well, since I actually do have springers, and they're due for their spring clip tomorrow.)

Thank you, Springer. Very nice of you to say so. There has been a lot of input behind the scenes from NathanF (Grafpup), Pizzasgood (Pizzapup), Previously known as Guest, Tronkel, and a whole host of others who have offered testing, advice, support, etc. It makes me proud to have been a part of what is truly a Community Edition.

2.15CE is shaping up to be a fantastic release - much more than just a consolidation release, really, if you consider the huge change of using the SFS add-ons for customization, instead of different ISOs.

Which raises a question: Is there going to be an SFS installer/manager? (Well, not in 2.15, but maybe later?) I could see two parts - one, a desktop app that lets you choose what SFS modules you want to (down)load/install and another in the boot menu, giving you the chance to, say, decide you'd like to override your "normal" config and boot this time with the dev SFS installed and the graphics SFS temporarily disabled, for instance. This would be very different from most other distros, but powerfully easy.

In fact Sunburnt is developing a GUI to do exactly what you propose - load sfs files either at boot or "on-the-fly", depending on the underlying file system. There has been talk about moving to aufs instead of unionfs, and BarryK is currently testing having sfs files compiled inside initrd.gz, so they won't limit the number of sfs files that can be unioned outside. It's all very exciting for Puppy's future right now.

BTW, I think things are reasonably well optimized w.r.t. boot process now, but I found a decent IBM article on boot streamlining that was published last week: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/l ... tLinuxBoot

Thanks. I'll check it out.

With the automatic desktop icon and menu updates that are in the works to adapt to the SFS disks available, I think the Puppy SFS suite system is going to be a *really* slick setup.

In fact with RC2/RC3 the XDG menu system is truly dynamic, adding in menu entries based on the presence of sfs add-on files. I think that in itself is a HUGE feature for Puppy over other OS, Linux or otherwise. Even some of the bigger Linux distros still have to resort to manual menu editing from time to time when one or another application doesn't quite do the job on install. Puppy now leads the pack, IMHO.

Thanks again for the compliments to the CE development team. I'm sure they are much appreciated by all!

[richard.a]

I believe BarryK was going to try and rebuild MUT since Jesse hasn't been around for a while. I don't know where that's up to. In the meantime Pmount has been overhauled and has many of the GUI features you're enquiring about. There is very little to choose between the two at the moment, except that sometimes one will "see" a drive that the other doesn't.

Thanks for the info.

For those who don't "know" Pmount, here are caps of it and MUT to show the similarities and differences...

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Re my working on the JWM side of the project, I've done some alterations to the JWM menu to bring its lower end closer to that on the IceWM one...
Left to right, the original JWM menu lower section, next the IceWM lower section, then the JWM "Shutdown" changed to "Logout" to maintain compatibility.

This won't please regular Puppy + JWM users but will probably suit migrants to the system who might need to switch across to JWM.

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Note I have added two extra menu calls ("Windows" and "Settings") as yet not working, and the "Window Managers" menu item, and below we can see the (now) similarity between the two WMs menus, Ice on the left, JWM on the right.

Settings comprises pointer focus (sloppy or MS style) and themes (I'm looking at a script that will allow copying and over-writing the config file's button image, and possibly calling the theme switcher that MU wrote) but that is on the back burner right now - and the Window List is the one above it.

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These are only really done to show how the compatibility can be improved with a bit of ingenuity and fence-wire - the Ozzie farmer's way

Richard in Adelaide