Puppy Squeeze 009 Development

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DaveS · #741 Post by **DaveS** » Thu 28 Oct 2010, 20:21

dejan555 wrote:Hmm, changes here on zpup 004 DaveS I have big bold fonts now

Sure, but I installed the Ubuntu font, and though it shows, It does not switch to it. Odd.
It is working just fine in Seamonkey/Gnumeric, so the system 'sees' it.

gjuhasz · #742 Post by **gjuhasz** » Thu 28 Oct 2010, 21:33

Downloaded and installed Zen Puppy 004.
Sad to say but DeadBeef does not play radio streams in 004 either.
Something wrong has happened since dpup-010.

Edit: Zen-004 cannot even play the music CD.
Edit 2: I am writing now from Lucid-232. It plays the same CD well with pCD and also with the just-added DedBeef. Note that DeadBeef 0.4.1 does play streams except mms here in Luci.

scsijon · #743 Post by **scsijon** » Thu 28 Oct 2010, 21:46

Iguleder wrote:DaveS, here, and don't forget to lower your expectations, it's a testing build

And btw, I found out that 004 is indeed indredibly fast, boots faster than any other Puppy on my netbook after saving.

EDIT: deltas are getting big, the next testing build will be available as a normal download too I guess

Yes please, I actually prefer "clean" builds for test versions, makes sure nothing is either left out or doesn't fail to convert when the patch run's.

I'm afraid me

and delta's

just don't seem to get along for some

reason.

And igu, don't rubbish yourself, you DO good test builds!

scsijon

Iguleder · #744 Post by **Iguleder** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 06:12

DaveS, you can't switch from the Ubuntu font to the Ubuntu font

C'mon, don't tell me you haven't noticed

EDIT: Barry just uploaded a new Woof. Yesterday I spent all night on this, I created a .config file for 2.6.36, now I need to hack Aufs to work with it (the Aufs guys still don't make patches for 2.6.36, weird) and make my traditional arsenal of patches. 2.6.36 for Squeeze will come soon I hope, I want to make Zen Puppy 005 with it

EDIT: tried to compile 2.6.36 with my hacked Aufs, got lots of errors. I read the Aufs mailing lists and it seems it's won't be available soon, so I might drop to 2.6.35.7.

(Another) EDIT: yay, 2.6.32.25 is out, I'm compiling it with some extras, don't forget it has my uber-cool patch that makes it appear as 2.6.32, you won't see any difference

I think I'll make a 005 with the new 2.6.32.25, this one also has some other fixes that should improve Debian (and Trinity

) compatibility - it uses util-linux-ng and mount from Debian ... and this one should be Eee-compatible - I patched the eeepc-laptop and ASPM drivers to appear as non-experimental so we don't lose the netbook users

I'm already running Pdebthing and I want to make a new version with package blacklisting support, so I can blacklist packages like Debian's init scripts and base stuff, as we don't want them

JorgenS · #745 Post by **JorgenS** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 13:52

zpup 004 :

Boots fine. Icons look good

I use my HTC android phone to acces internet, attached via usb.

Normally it will appear in the Network Wizard as,

Interface_____Type_______Module_________Device description
usb0_________Ethernet___rndis_host______usb: HTC Android Phone

In zpup 004, it's not detected and I can't find module.

If the module is not included, can it be in 005?

Thanks for Your great work with Dpup!

Jorgen

maxpro4u · #746 Post by **maxpro4u** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 15:47

Frugal install zen005-somehow it used files from my 5.1.1 full install when I booted into zen and upon reboot into 5.1.1 it went into a loop during the boot and would not complete. Removed all files from my full install of 5.1.1 and zen booted fine but now all I have are the frugal installs of different puppies-zen,quickset,214x,luci233. weird huh?

Iguleder · #747 Post by **Iguleder** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 16:07

The next build is almost here, it has 2.6.32.25 and the new Woof which has many fixes. Should be better. It also has a new Abiword from Debian (it doesn't have the tearing effect from the 2.8.6 PET and all other Abiword packages), sane and safe defaults for gnome-mplayer (x11 video output and ALSA audio output, no postprocessing) and has the menu entries fixed.

I made a Trinity SFS and the problem with the KDE media manager persists for some reason, even with Debian's dbus and hal. I want to investigate dependencies and find what I've missed. I'm pretty sure this isn't something Trinity-specific.

tubeguy · #748 Post by **tubeguy** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 20:36

Iguleder wrote:
EDIT: Barry just uploaded a new Woof. Yesterday I spent all night on this,

Dude. Sleep. Puppy will still be there in the morning.

Also, zen 5 is wicked fast. Frugal install, haven't spent much time with it, only issue is so far is pwidgets227+pwidgets extras224 only shows the clock.

Jim1911 · #749 Post by **Jim1911** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 21:07

tubeguy wrote:Also, zen 5 is wicked fast. Frugal install, haven't spent much time with it, only issue is so far is pwidgets227+pwidgets extras224 only shows the clock.

Probably zen 4, if 5, please provide a download link.

Iguleder,

I've had the same problem with both pwidgets-2.2.7 and pwidgets-2.3.0, otherwise it's working fine.

Cheers,
Jim

DaveS · #750 Post by **DaveS** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 21:23

Iguleder wrote:DaveS, you can't switch from the Ubuntu font to the Ubuntu font

C'mon, don't tell me you haven't noticed

Sorry, probably did not put it very well... It is impossible to change the font used by Rox and the various pop-up dialogues like boot configuration manager and so on even though alternative fonts are present on the system. Those alternative fonts CAN be used by apps inwhich a font can be defined like Seamonkey however, so the system does recognise them. Normally the font for dialogues etc is changed via menu>desktop>desktop setting>GTK theme manager, but it does not work.

tubeguy · #751 Post by **tubeguy** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 21:28

Jim1911 wrote:
tubeguy wrote:Also, zen 5 is wicked fast. Frugal install, haven't spent much time with it, only issue is so far is pwidgets227+pwidgets extras224 only shows the clock.
Probably zen 4, if 5, please provide a download link.

Iguleder,

I've had the same problem with both pwidgets-2.2.7 and pwidgets-2.3.0, otherwise it's working fine.

Cheers,
Jim

Ask and you shall receive:

http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/zen-005/
I figure I'm jumping the gun because I haven't seen a release announcement.

James C · #752 Post by **James C** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 23:05

Fresh manual frugal install of 005 on the old P3...........it is fast.

Had to use the same workaround to get "X" working but otherwise no problems yet.

Jim1911 · #753 Post by **Jim1911** » Fri 29 Oct 2010, 23:10

tubeguy wrote: Ask and you shall receive:
http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/zen-005/
I figure I'm jumping the gun because I haven't seen a release announcement.

Thank you,
Jim

Karl Godt · #754 Post by **Karl Godt** » Sat 30 Oct 2010, 06:03

Despite of the development :

I'm at zenpup-001 at the moment and have difficulties to get the /mnt/home/zpup_devx_001.sfs
recocnized by the BootManager .Reading this thread from page 33
I found no postings about difficulties to load extra sfs .

There seems to be a cut from /lib/libc-2.6 that 4.3.0-1 uses and later ones . ^snprintf^ doesn't seem to be compiled into the later glibc'ses . I downloaded the lenny version source 2.7 and a whole folder had been missing there that hadn't been created by the lenny-patch . Adding the folder from 2.6 source from ftp.gnu.org still did not compile because of undefined/unused/dereferenced variables . glibc source is 15MB but seems to take longer to compile than 67MB kernel source.

Compiling xosview with XpmCreateImageFromData still only succeded at 4.3.0 and 4.3.1 . Lhpup 443 had been the first to echo "have snprintf ...no" while configuring and it uses libc-2.9

Iguleder · #755 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Oct 2010, 08:54

Just to avoid any confusion - the "005" I uploaded is 004 with some fixes, but it doesn't have the kernel and other new stuff. I intalled it as the main OS of my netbook and decided to upload it. I made it about half an hour after I started the 004 upload, it was too late to abort so I decided not to mention it so you don't waste download bandwidth for nothing

Anyway, at the moment I'm working on 005 and doing another experiment that we were supposed to do long ago - IceWM. So 005 should have the mplayer/gnome-mplayer fixes, a CUPS fix, IceWM, kernel 2.6.32.25 and some other small things I don't remember. I also intend to work on 2.6.35.8 once I have a working ISO, I'll make a second 005 with it probably.

And Karl, 001 is an old testing build, it came before 009. It sucks like all my testing builds

And by the way, I noticed that the graphics corruption problem I have is gone in Trinity. Maybe it's JWM's fault and that's one of the things I want to check in 005 with IceWM.

DaveS: all the Sans stuff are now in the Ubuntu font, I don't get you ... Seamonkey and Rox use this font too. Here's a screeny for you

EDIT: forgot to mention, the new kernel is compiled with i686 (Pentium II) as the target architecture, it won't run on anything older. It should improve performance even further ... but we probably won't notice any difference after the impact of 004

EDIT 2: the problem is gone with IceWM but I have no idea how to configure it and it's extremely ugly, I'm compiling 2.6.35.8 so I guess 005 will have JWM and this kernel. It has heaps of drivers and very experimental stuff ... should be great for those who had problems with previous kernels.

EDIT 3: I replaced both the kernel and the window manager, so it can be either one of them or both. Now I'm doing a build with 2.6.35.8 and JWM, let's see if the problem persistes

pemasu · #756 Post by **pemasu** » Sat 30 Oct 2010, 17:48

Iguleder. Several people have had difficulties with two latest woof builds. The problems with booting like dpup had and so on... Also there has been downloading problems of the pets. So maybe not all the problems earlier has arised from the squeeze packages but from the woof itself.

Iguleder · #757 Post by **Iguleder** » Sat 30 Oct 2010, 17:51

Yes, that's because of the previous version of Woof, it was problematic. Barry uploaded a new Woof and I used it for the 005 testing build ... so far I see some bug fixes.

pemasu · #758 Post by **pemasu** » Sat 30 Oct 2010, 17:55

Problems with the new woof: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01907

Roy · #759 Post by **Roy** » Sun 31 Oct 2010, 05:15

Re: Zpup-005

Transmission does not work for me.

Code: Select all

# transmission
transmission: error while loading shared libraries: libevent-1.4.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
#

-Roy

DaveS · #760 Post by **DaveS** » Sun 31 Oct 2010, 06:38

OK.............. finally tracked down the Ubuntu font problem! Seems Ubuntu font wont display in Squeeze if I use my preferred Polished Blue GTK Theme. As you quite rightly point out, Ubuntu is the default font. Weird.........

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