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Posted: **Wed 12 Aug 2015, 15:33**

LateAdopter wrote: e.g. slacko64 and a trusty64 built with jamesbond's woof-ce-next..

Is there a download link to try those two pups?

Posted: **Wed 12 Aug 2015, 16:00**

watchdog wrote:hplip_print_fd600-3.14.4.pet does not need to be repackaged.

?????
It has /usr/lib64/cups/filter/hpcups. I got an HP Deskjet to work by moving this file.

Don't forget to reboot the unit after switching between scanner and printer.

Posted: **Wed 12 Aug 2015, 17:48**

Hello stemsee

stemsee wrote:
LateAdopter wrote: e.g. slacko64 and a trusty64 built with jamesbond's woof-ce-next..
Is there a download link to try those two pups?

This is a bit of a timewarp!

The slacko64 stuff is still here:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/test/slacko64/

For the woof-next-james stuff go here:

https://github.com/jamesbond3142/woof-CE

and here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=94101

I had never built anything before, but jamesbond's instructions are so clear that I didn't have much difficulty building a more-or-less working puppy.

It's a year ago that I tried it, and I deleted the ISO long ago, but it only takes 10 minutes to build a puppy using jamesbond's woof-ce-next.

The only requirement, not mentioned in the readme is a real dpkg not the busybox one. I built it using a fatdog kernel.

I don't know anything about how puppies manage savefiles and shutdown, so I couldn't attempt to debug it.

jamesbond has been too busy with fatdog 7 and "other things" to develop it further since then.

Posted: **Tue 18 Aug 2015, 00:48**

a few backgrounds.

Posted: **Tue 18 Aug 2015, 08:27**

@LateAdopter

I had built a few dysfunctional pups with woof-next when it first appeared! But the biggest problem for me was the inability to connect to the internet, and I tried a lot ways to get it working, so I put it on hold! I thought you had cracked it!

Posted: **Tue 18 Aug 2015, 17:24**

stemsee wrote:... But the biggest problem for me was the inability to connect to the internet, and I tried a lot ways to get it working, so I put it on hold! I thought you had cracked it!

I too tried this.

This BUG problem was reported to @Jamesbond many months ago. He says that there is no problem. I have shown evidence that there is. This was introduced as they went to FD7. I think he is attempting a targeted effort that has reduced both functionality and introduced this bug. In fact, no explanation has been given, yet, to the reason he changed the manner of LAN/WAN operations as he did. We are left to "live with it" ideology versus acknowledgement and reversal even though all other PUPs continue proper operations when booted. I consider him an excellent developer, but, in this instance for this problem, additional consideration should not have been taken as "him making a mistake". Instead the "hoped" behavior was addressing this.

I have asked if he would consider reversing the change and using the logic in all of the prior FDs or the logic present in Lighthouse or @Dry Fall's JustLighthouse or @01Micko's Slacko64 or @BarryK's April64 or Simplicity64 or ...

FD7 is the ONLY PUP distro (no, the only modern distro or OS) that has this dilemma in its OOTB boots on several PC networks. No other released PUP is built with this strategy or has this dilemma.

I believe @01Micko has a build process for WOOFCE that does NOT conclude with this BUG.

Posted: **Tue 18 Aug 2015, 23:44**

woof-next does not build FD it has nothing to do with fd . Fd is built with LFS.

Woof-next method is new and very fast. It can be configured so that packages for the build are installed using the default package handler, true dpkg or synaptic. ~He delivered woof-next as is'hoping' the community would do the rest of the work debugging it and finding solutions. Saintless reported a finding, I also reportedd a few findings and I had tried all three build possibilities. Anf I had a plan of action but I knew my scripting ability was not skilled or knowledgeable enough to tackle the tasks. But now I am interested again.

Posted: **Wed 19 Aug 2015, 10:58**

Hi stemsee,
I tried to install your kernel 4.13 in Tahr64 and seems to work very well. Thank you.

I continue to try and find out. Good job. I like.

Posted: **Fri 21 Aug 2015, 18:53**

finally i'm getting around to working on tahrpup64 again

i've done one build already and the two major bugs of the previous one seem fixed .... so the important symlinks in /lib & /usr/libs are no longer being overwritten and setting the wallpaper now sticks.
i should be posting a new iso (hopefully beta quality) next weekend

Posted: **Sun 23 Aug 2015, 07:49**

Hi 666Philb,
Kernel uptated from 3.4.17 to 4.1.3EmSee
Any modification.
tahr64-6.0.2_k-4.1.3-EmSee-64
https://copy.com/06nSm2lJNhtKKbZz

Experimental italian version. Switch Language, Country and Time Zone after the boot. Some bugs fixed.
Thar_Media-64-k_4.1.3-EmSee_x86-64
https://copy.com/zBisCcKH7EwKYQ7r
Thar_Light-64-k_4.1.3-EmSee_x86-64
https://copy.com/pUycFpHzgv8Vv0KS

Patch CUPS n.1 by Watchdog https://copy.com/Fj8Q2io21YOHrJDh
Patch CUPS n.2 by Watchdog https://copy.com/cHkF0Fe6D3ICcZ7a

A little fun around T64.

EDIT: links updated

Posted: **Sun 23 Aug 2015, 10:18**

I never have success downloading from mega, if any else can please provide mirror links

Posted: **Sun 23 Aug 2015, 15:05**

Yea!! So glad your back onto Tahrpup 64. I've had it running for a little while on my "free" Dell Dimension E521 and its going pretty good so far. I upgraded to the 6000+ CPU at 3 GHz at the same time so I'm probably going to have too many new things going at once. But so far it works and from the Benchmarking I've done 64 Bit shows improvements in some areas such as 40% faster Raytracing, 14% Blowfish but slower on some of the others. Probably the choice of the Benchmarking software and how it was compiled.

If anyone is interested in a working Module (aka Device Driver) for those AE3000 Cisco / Linksys pods I figured out how to do it. *A real pain to follow a dozen threads all with one piece of the puzzle. If I can figure out how to upgrade GCC to the version used to make this distro I'm going to give the Nvidia Driver a try for my new "box"

I'm running the 64 Bit Firefox and other then problems with extensions it seems to be working ok. And the problem is the folks making the extensions.

I have an actual project (software) and it has to run on a 64 Bit Linux box so THANKYOU!!! for your work. If you have any need for testers and a overall script don't be afraid to shout. Thanks again...

Posted: **Thu 27 Aug 2015, 15:22**

I haven't had success with the chroot in a 32bit filesystem which is an alternative way to use 32bit code in a 64bit filesystem. I think that the kernel should be compiled with this feature (once upon a time there was a flag to be set for ia32-libs in the compilation of the kernel...). The bash shell of this alpha release can't execute the chroot in a 32bit filesystem.

Posted: **Sun 30 Aug 2015, 11:29**

Success launching skype in a chroot jail using the xanad's light tahr64 with kernel 4.1.3-EmSee. I have booted tahr 6.03 32 bit, I have unloaded any unwanted sfs and copied on a sdb1 linux formatted usb stick /bin /boot/ /etc /lib /opt /root /sbin /usr /var dirs. I had installed skype by pulseaudio in that filesystem. Then make dirs /dev /proc /sys /mnt /tmp /tmp/.X11-unix on the usb stick and symlink the /run dir to /tmp. Then boot tahr64 with kernel 4.1.3 EmSee. You can launch skype4.3 by the following script (give it execute permissions):

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#!/bin/sh
mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
mount --bind /dev /mnt/sdb1/dev
mount --bind /proc /mnt/sdb1/proc
mount --bind /sys /mnt/sdb1/sys
xhost +
mount --bind /tmp/.X11-unix /mnt/sdb1/tmp/.X11-unix
chroot /mnt/sdb1 skype4.3
umount /mnt/sdb1/tmp/.X11-unix
umount /mnt/sdb1/sys
umount /mnt/sdb1/proc
killall dbus-launch
sleep 10
umount /mnt/sdb1/dev
umount /mnt/sdb1
xhost -

Posted: **Sun 30 Aug 2015, 14:29**

Thar_Light-64-k_4.1.3-EmSee_x86-64 by xanad has a misconfiguration of gconf. Edit /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.gnome.GConf.service to match the following content:

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[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.gnome.GConf
Exec=/usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconfd-2

Posted: **Sun 30 Aug 2015, 21:08**

new iso uploaded see first post....

the devx and kernel sources are currenly uploading and will be done in about an hour from when this was postedhttp://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96748

Posted: **Sun 30 Aug 2015, 22:04**

Quick manual frugal install...... no obvious problems yet.

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root# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: tahr64, version 6.0.3.5

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1024x768x16
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

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root# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       8065272       960900      7104372            0        96204
-/+ buffers:             864696      7200576
Swap:      8396796            0      8396796

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-Computer-
Processor		: 6x AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor
Memory		: 8065MB (420MB used)
Machine Type		: Physical machine
Operating System		: Puppy Linux
User Name		: root (root)
Date/Time		: Sun Aug 30 17:02:52 2015
-Display-
Resolution		: 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer		: Gallium 0.4 on NVA8
X11 Vendor		: The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter		: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
Audio Adapter		: PC-Speaker - pcsp

Posted: **Sun 30 Aug 2015, 22:21**

Posted: **Mon 31 Aug 2015, 00:25**

I did a manual frugal installation to a 32gb usb 3.0 flash drive, pc is
an HP desktop.

Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8165MB (294MB used)
Machine Type Physical machine
Operating System Puppy Linux
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Sun Aug 30 19:54:08 2015
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Audio Devices
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
Audio Adapter HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
Audio Adapter PC-Speaker - pcsp
OpenGL
Vendor X.Org
Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD
Version 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3
Direct Rendering Y_es

I added a few applications from PPM.

It's working well so far.

Thanks

Posted: **Mon 31 Aug 2015, 02:46**

Hi Phil

Mostly running ok. Good job.

Nice to see netmon_wce make an appearance.

Some oddities though. Why the ancient version of dir2pet? The current one supports xz compression, this one doesn't. (BTW, the advancecomp bug was squashed ages ago).

JWM themes need to be updated. The xslt method in Joe's docs works. I did have a script somewhere but can't find it at the moment. Will post when found.

I notice a few library conflicts, jpeg v8 and v9.

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 gcc  -O2 -Wall -pipe  -lXpm -ljpeg -lpng12 -ltiff -o xonclock xonclock.o placement.o cache.o parse.o image.o pmdesktop.o png.o jpeg.o tiff.o  -lpthread -lXpm -ltiff -ljpeg -lpng -lXft -lXext -lX11 -lXrender -lm
/usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.8, needed by /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so, may conflict with libjpeg.so.9

png v1.2.50 and v1.4.17beta

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root# ./xonclock 
xonclock-0.0.9.3: parse.c:117 Unable to open config file: /root/.xonclockrc
libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.2.50
libpng warning: Application  is  running with png.c from libpng-1.4.17beta02
libpng warning: Incompatible libpng version in application and library
xonclock-0.0.9.3: loaders/png.c:101 libpng error catched
Segmentation fault

This might cause other issues, can't be sure.

@james C. I see your retrovol doesn't show up (coz it's black and bg is black). I have patched retrovol so that you can choose the icon colour from the 'Config Window'. Once chosen the first time retrovol needs to be restarted. After that the colour will change in an instant. This is because it writes the icons to $HOME instead of /usr/share/retrovol. I did this so it is multiuser friendly. Source is at my github https://github.com/01micko/retrovol/tree/speaker.

I'll attach a pet compiled in tahr64.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

tahrpup64 6.0.5 CE

Re: Woof-CE savefile - shutdown bug

Re: Woof-CE savefile - shutdown bug

Chroot 32 bit jail in tahr64 using a tahr 6.03 filesystem

tahrpup64 6.0.3.5 beta