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Jim

I removed those other buttons, the sfs button is now down the bottom and qpackage updates are included in main updates. That is the update.

Cheers

01micko wrote:I removed those other buttons, the sfs button is now down the bottom and qpackage updates are included in main updates. That is the update.

I should have pressed the big button, evidently on one try I did push it since I got message about already having the latest update. I had seen the new SFS button and checked that out. Your Quickpackage is a great addition.

Jim

using fresh 009

GMT London timing is one hour out it should be adding an hour
(UK time is changed twice a year incidentally)
I thought this had been solved not had this problem in Puppy for years.

Recognized my hardware - straight to desktop bypass all config
radeonhd driver installed no problem

Had to set my audio driver manually
normally Puppy recognizes it

Pressing the Lucid update (much simpler incidentally)
a message came up saying I could not connect to server (I had internet)
which means either no update or it is not connecting to server?

Now that Quickpet is installing one program at a time maybe
it should come up after installation for multiple installs?

Geany when it installs is coming up with two menu entries
Geany and underneath
Geany Text Editor

Great improvements

Lobster wrote:a message came up saying I could not connect to server (I had internet)
which means either no update or it is not connecting to server?

Hmm, yes it would indicate that it is not connecting... I am giving a 20 second timeout, maybe it's too short? In that 20 seconds it tries to connect 40 times. Perhaps I should put in a "please wait.. " splash and make the timeout 40 seconds. If you have the latest update it will (er should) tell you and if there is... the same with no update available. Still needs work, but it will get there . I have all weekend free.. a long one too for ANZAC day.

I think Geany is included in the main iso now... if that is to be the case then it will be dropped and replaced with something else in Quickpackage. That's why you got the 2 menu entries Lobster.

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Also, an apology.. I put a silly word in some of the earlier test updates that I thought (well didn't think at all really ) would do no harm, but appears in the installed packages in petget. Sorry if that offended anyone.

Cheers

I have all weekend free..

Many thanks - have a great time Mick,

Another consideration . . . (maybe more suited to 5.1) but anyways
should be relatively easy to implement.

All distros including most of the small ones auto set up.
Puppy 64 'Fatdog' manages this by:

1. Setting up keyboard for USA
2. Setting time by system clock
3. Using and setting connection and DHCP by LAN if available

- it means I go straight into a connected machine

Lucid has managed to bypass is it xvesa? or xorg/
and what bit?
and what res? . . . and wot?
You think all those questions are part of 'just works'?

Something to consider

Lobster wrote: All distros including most of the small ones auto set up.
Puppy 64 'Fatdog' manages this by:

1. Setting up keyboard for USA
2. Setting time by system clock
3. Using and setting connection and DHCP by LAN if available

- it means I go straight into a connected machine

Lucid has managed to bypass is it xvesa? or xorg/
and what bit?
and what res? . . . and wot?
You think all those questions are part of 'just works'?

Something to consider

I think that should be an option in all woof based Pups. Maybe mention to BarryK? A dialaog saying "would you like to set up for keyboard/country/timezone? If not you can do this later". [Yes/No buttons.]

I do a lot of pfix=ram testing and I always set it correctly or else I can muck up my system settings. It would be nice to bypass.

Already having a great time

Lucid 009
azerty is not recognized, only a qwerty keyboard.
At first glance, nothing (about keyboard) in its xorg.conf
no section like that :

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "fr" #xkeymap0
EndSection

So I am writing this post throught Lucid 008

bug

$HOME/Startup/1strun-xrandrshell.sh is not executable, hence xrandr does not run

fix
Also, maybe we can make it self deleting? Just so it doesn't clutter the startup folder, no other reason.

I noticed that the only thing missing in Lupu009's /etc/X11/xkb compared to Lucid's xkeyboard-config-1.8, is compat/olpc and symbols/olpc.
Could you please add them back in the next build?
(I did mentioned it in BK's blog some time ago but apparently was not included in woof)
With geode 2.11.8 (now in Lucid) solving the missing desktop icons problem, Lupu could be a good XOpup base.
Thx

Lucid 009
azerty is not recognized, only a qwerty keyboard.
At first glance, nothing (about keyboard) in its xorg.conf
no section like that :

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
Option "XkbLayout" "fr" #xkeymap0
EndSection

So I am writing this post throught Lucid 008

Tasgarth, Does it improve if you Menu -> Shutdown -> Exit to prompt and run 'new-wizard' ?

1. Setting up keyboard for USA
2. Setting time by system clock
3. Using and setting connection and DHCP by LAN if available

- it means I go straight into a connected machine

Lucid has managed to bypass is it xvesa? or xorg/
and what bit?
and what res? . . . and wot?
You think all those questions are part of 'just works'?

My inclination is to leave the keyboard and timezone setup as they are--they work well, they are a long time part of Puppy, and they personalize the setup.

The automatic graphics is doing a good job imo--it is setting up the graphics with glx/dri--so it is not setting a "lowest common denominator." Open a terminal and enter 'glxgears' to confirm glx/dri.

My inclination is to leave the keyboard and timezone setup as they are--they work well, they are a long time part of Puppy, and they personalize the setup.

Your call, makes perfect sense to keep what is working at this stage
. . . maybe something that will emerge in the future.

New frugal installation of lupo-009 on two systems:

1. BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart 5280 All-in-One

2. Old Sony vaio laptop with only 64MB ram.

Installation on main system was flawless with the only problem is that drive icons are jumbled,it is corrected with Desktop drive icons manager and restartX, however, any change to boot manager jumbles them again. All software appears to be working fine, including additional software using Quickpackage and pets and SFS that I already had. Update of Lupu-008 save file worked fine. Lupu 009 is fast and stable.

The installation failed on the old Sony laptop, the screen resolution was wrong and could not be corrected. Wary 020 runs fine on it.

Recommendations for Quickpackage:
1. Rename quickpet on Desktop to Quickpackage.
2. Add numlock-1.1.pet to useful Pets, lots of us prefer the numlock key on by default.
3. Add Startmount-5.3.pet which is great for starting programs on boot and mounting only selected partitions.
4. Add snap2_2.4.3.pet which is a fine backup program.

Kudos to the team,
Jim

any chance of md5 hash in right click as in 431?

playdayz wrote :

Tasgarth, Does it improve if you Menu -> Shutdown -> Exit to prompt and run 'new-wizard' ?

No it does not, only :
-sh : QWERASnew-wizard: command not found

and I tested # xorgwizard => only the prompt
# xwin => OK... the screen but qwerty keyboard.
Then : menu > hardInfo hardware > Display : resolution 1600 x 1200
--------------------------
Now it's OK .
Here is what I just have done :

- CD-Live lupu 009 (azerty, time zone GMT =1, fr_FR). md5sum OK
- Frugall ext3 install of lupu 009
- boot Lucid 008 > copied the xog.conf of 008 , I deleted the xorg.conf of Lucid 009 and pasted the xorg.conf of 008 into Lucid 009
- reboot 009
Now it's OK .
--------
The first xorg.conf of cd-live 009 is at :
http://www.tasgarth.net/testlupu/xorg.txt

Asus M2V, Nvidia GeForce 7600 GT, RAM 1G, Sata; Lan ADSL

Lupu 009 fresh frugal install. Hp Laserjet 1020 still does not print. Same error message. Lupu 007 printed ok, 008-009 not.

From repo I installed first time succesfully mplayer and gnome-mplayer frontend with all suggested lib depencies. Previously depencies installation failed with some libs. I did run gnome-mplayer from terminal and installed the rest missing depencies. After that gnome-mplayer worked flawlessly !!!
Video ok, sounds ok and most important subtitles selection worked on the fly. My previous efforts with manual depencies installation had caused that after subtitles selection gnome-mplayer went unresponsive and video went jerky. Now it works fine and more important all the needed suggested depencies were installable.

Better subtitles handling was the reason I need gnome-mplayer, smplayer-mplayer or vlc for xvid avis.


Maybe there is hope with printer also in the future. Something important has changed after Lupu 007.

Quickpackages works fine and will be rewarded addition in Lupu.

Thanks playdayz and 01micko.

@01micko,

Info only:
Startmount-5.3.pet works fine with a new lupu-009 frugal installation. However when updating my 008 lupusaveDuDE.3fs it partially works. Seems to startup fine and setup options are still there, but it does nothing on boot. It worked perfectly with DuDE in 008. Probably shouldn't be addressed until lupu and DuDE are both final though.

Jim

TomRhymer wrote:Testing Lucid 6 on my netbook, an Acer Aspire One AOD-150. I'm running from a flash drive made with Unetbootin, no save file.

I still have one problem left from V5. I can't get any sound from my speakers, but the headphones work fine. I think the problem is that the speaker volume is set to zero by default. I've had this problem in some of the Quirkies, and changing the volume in the mixer corrects it. Lucid's mixer does not have a separate slider for the speaker volume, and I can't find any way to change it.

Still have this problem as of Lupo 9, but have found a workaround by installing retrovol to change speaker volume. Speaker volume seems to be set to zero by default in both Quirky and Lupo, but not Wary.

Had an odd problem with internet in Lupo 9. Installed Firefox at start, gave message about Firefox not being default. Clicked OK, then screen went black and system froze. This could be related to my internet problems, my DSL seems to be causing my router to reset occasionally. Deleted save file and tried again, could not duplicate problem.

lucid 009:
quickpet returns a red "Time out error" on all available downloads tested over 2 days live internet connection 4meg down 40KB up.

Xorg auto setup no scroll on touchpad mouse, not able to scroll up/down on web pages, highlight text or move windows around desktop - last correct working xorg setup 006

I had been running the Puppy 3 series for the last several months because of frequent browser crashes (all browsers) in Puppy 4. Crashes are apparently because of video -- I'm on a 9- or 10-year-old Compaq with GeForce2 MX Integrated Graphics.

Began testing Lupu 4 a while back. No browser crashes! Same with 5 and 6 when they came out.

Downloaded Lupu 9 a few days ago and Firefox now crashes regularly.

Oh, one other issue: none of the Lupu versions have actually powered down at shutdown.