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Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 11:33
by thinkpadfreak
Hello.
gtk-3 and qt5 as dependencies are not shown any more. Thank you.
I do not know the purpose of displaying Japanese characters, but the japanese font in version 9.0.1 is more suitable than the one in the previous version.
As far as I am concerned, the Japanese font is useful, because it saves the trouble of adding one.
I also noticed the following:
When I install some applications, "gcc-10-base" and "libgcc-s1" are proposed as dependencies, but they do not seem to be necessary.
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 11:45
by DuMar
I tried the adrv with Lick on my 2020 Asus Vivobook with ryzen 3 processor.
After changing the screen resolution to 1280 x 724 it works quite nice.
I installed libre office and truecrypt.
Minus:
No fontmanager
Drives checked to load at boot don' t load
No peasey pdf (pet available)
No language pack yet.
That's all for now. I'm just a very average user I think.
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 13:29
by Marv
DuMar wrote:
Drives checked to load at boot don' t load
I had this behavior very briefly when I first installed Fossapup64. I looked in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and in addition to the line placed there by pmount, something like:
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mkdir -p /mnt/sda2; mount -t ext2 /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 #pmount
there was another 'mount' line that had exec in it and used pupsafemount or something similar. It isn't in rc.load in the pristine install and the permissions for rc.load are unchanged in my install. I can't replicate the failure so can't quote it exactly. Removed that line and now pmount works exactly as it should, adding the line when mount on boot requested and removing it when mount on boot is deselected. Can't make it not work at this point. Check your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file and see if there is a 'mount' line not generated by pmount. Another of those fleeting mysteries here. The quirk was so brief I don't really know if it was my intervention or just subsequent boots that did it.
FossaPup64 library directories?
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 15:46
by peebee
Hi @phil666b............
Struggling a bit to understand the FossaPup64 library directory structures....
I see the following directories all with content:
/lib
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
/lib64
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
/usr/lib64
but from 'export' only /lib and /usr/lib are specified in the library path:
declare -x LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/lib:/usr/lib:/root/my-applications/lib:/usr/local/lib"
There are also the following empty directories:
/lib/i386-linux-gnu
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
Where should new apps put libraries?
Thanks for any clarification
peebee
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 16:10
by DuMar
Marv wrote:DuMar wrote:
Drives checked to load at boot don' t load
I had this behavior very briefly when I first installed Fossapup64. I looked in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and in addition to the line placed there by pmount, something like:
Code: Select all
mkdir -p /mnt/sda2; mount -t ext2 /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 #pmount
there was another 'mount' line that had exec in it and used pupsafemount or something similar. It isn't in rc.load in the pristine install and the permissions for rc.load are unchanged in my install. I can't replicate the failure so can't quote it exactly. Removed that line and now pmount works exactly as it should, adding the line when mount on boot requested and removing it when mount on boot is deselected. Can't make it not work at this point. Check your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file and see if there is a 'mount' line not generated by pmount. Another of those fleeting mysteries here. The quirk was so brief I don't really know if it was my intervention or just subsequent boots that did it.
That was deep deep down in the basement. But I found it and you were right. It works now.
Thank ypu Marv
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 17:44
by 666philb
thinkpadfreak wrote:Hello.
gtk-3 and qt5 as dependencies are not shown any more. Thank you.
I do not know the purpose of displaying Japanese characters, but the japanese font in version 9.0.1 is more suitable than the one in the previous version.
As far as I am concerned, the Japanese font is useful, because it saves the trouble of adding one.
I also noticed the following:
When I install some applications, "gcc-10-base" and "libgcc-s1" are proposed as dependencies, but they do not seem to be necessary.
yes i may just add them to stop that
and will probably remove the japanese message as i initially thought it changed to match the haiku
by the way ... do people like the haiku?
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 17:49
by 666philb
DuMar wrote:I tried the adrv with Lick on my 2020 Asus Vivobook with ryzen 3 processor.
After changing the screen resolution to 1280 x 724 it works quite nice.
I installed libre office and truecrypt.
Minus:
No fontmanager
Drives checked to load at boot don' t load
No peasey pdf (pet available)
No language pack yet.
That's all for now. I'm just a very average user I think.
hi DuMar
the fontmanager is in menu>>desktop>>jwmdesk
also the drive automount is broken as i didn't press enter after altering /etc/rc.d/rc.local to run pupcheck ... just open that file and press enter at the offending line ... also press enter at the end of the last line.
this will be fixed in the next iso
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 17:52
by 666philb
Marv wrote:DuMar wrote:
Drives checked to load at boot don' t load
I had this behavior very briefly when I first installed Fossapup64. I looked in /etc/rc.d/rc.local and in addition to the line placed there by pmount, something like:
Code: Select all
mkdir -p /mnt/sda2; mount -t ext2 /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2 #pmount
there was another 'mount' line that had exec in it and used pupsafemount or something similar. It isn't in rc.load in the pristine install and the permissions for rc.load are unchanged in my install. I can't replicate the failure so can't quote it exactly. Removed that line and now pmount works exactly as it should, adding the line when mount on boot requested and removing it when mount on boot is deselected. Can't make it not work at this point. Check your /etc/rc.d/rc.local file and see if there is a 'mount' line not generated by pmount. Another of those fleeting mysteries here. The quirk was so brief I don't really know if it was my intervention or just subsequent boots that did it.
hi marv see my response to DuMar,
i added a line to rc.local but didn't press enter afterwards, so new lines got appended to the end of my command rather than on a new line.
my pupcheck command may also need & at the end of it also.
will be fixed next iso
p.s. portable redshift is already in fossapup
as is transtray by fredx181 (brilliant apps)
Re: FossaPup64 library directories?
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 17:56
by 666philb
peebee wrote:Hi @phil666b............
Struggling a bit to understand the FossaPup64 library directory structures....
I see the following directories all with content:
/lib
/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
/lib64
/usr/lib
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu
/usr/lib64
but from 'export' only /lib and /usr/lib are specified in the library path:
declare -x LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/lib:/usr/lib:/root/my-applications/lib:/usr/local/lib"
There are also the following empty directories:
/lib/i386-linux-gnu
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
Where should new apps put libraries?
Thanks for any clarification
peebee
hi peebee,
i'll have a look at the /etc/ld.so.conf.d in the next release
/lib/i386-linux-gnu
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu
are there for 32bit applications and need to be there if you compile the nvidia driver with the 32bit libs required for steam
/lib64 i think is put there from libc
/usr/lib64 shouldn't be there but some of the common64 pets have been compiled with it. shared-mime-info_DEV-1.10-x86_64_common64.pet for instance caused a ton of headaches for me until i discovered i needed to link /usr/lib64/pkgconfig/shared-mime-info.pc to /usr/lib/pkgconfig for various stuff to compile
Posted: Fri 01 May 2020, 23:00
by bigpup
by the way ... do people like the haiku?
Only if it says this:
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We are Puppy.
Resistance is futile!
You will become a happy Puppy user!
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 01:01
by melon688
fossapup64-9.0.1.iso > set Main Language to zh_TW > Restart X > browsing Taiwan Web site
>a lot of error characters :
pic0
fossapup64-9.0.1.iso > install TCJK_LBR.pet > set Main Language to zh_TW > Restart X > browsing Taiwan Web site
> all characters are correct :
pic1
TCJK_LBR.pet (Taiwan,China,Japan,Korea characters)
download TCJK_LBR.pet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riSKIh ... sp=sharing
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 10:18
by artsown
Quote:
by the way ... do people like the haiku?
Only if it says this:
Code:
We are Puppy.
Resistance is futile!
You will become a happy Puppy user!
haiku is one of the items I remove from Startup. I also remove ppm
update and gatotray. Then there is the childish desktop background to
replace. No wonder puppies are widely viewed as toys for kids.
Concerning automatic ppm update, I just don't like the idea of needlessly
wasting RAM when most of the time I will not be using ppm.
Art the old grouch
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 11:39
by DuMar
I noticed a new problem:
When I want to print a document the popup screen from CUPS is so big that I can't reach the print button on the bottom.
I have to change the screen resolution from 1280 x 720 to 1366 x 768 and that is very small. And then I get a restart X so all programs close. It happens of course also when I want to use CUPS PDF.
Next question: I installed TrueCrypt but I have no menu entry, only a shortcut on the desktop. Can I put it manually in the menu in the map utilities?
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 14:31
by 666philb
melon688 wrote:fossapup64-9.0.1.iso > set Main Language to zh_TW > Restart X > browsing Taiwan Web site
>a lot of error characters :
pic0
fossapup64-9.0.1.iso > install TCJK_LBR.pet > set Main Language to zh_TW > Restart X > browsing Taiwan Web site
> all characters are correct :
pic1
TCJK_LBR.pet (Taiwan,China,Japan,Korea characters)
download TCJK_LBR.pet
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riSKIh ... sp=sharing
hi melon688,
that font 1mb was included just for the haiku (which may be removed anyway)
to include fonts for all languages would probably triple the size of the iso. all fonts will be available in the ppm
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 14:38
by 666philb
artsown wrote:Quote:
by the way ... do people like the haiku?
Only if it says this:
Code:
We are Puppy.
Resistance is futile!
You will become a happy Puppy user!
haiku is one of the items I remove from Startup. I also remove ppm
update and gatotray. Then there is the childish desktop background to
replace. No wonder puppies are widely viewed as toys for kids.
Concerning automatic ppm update, I just don't like the idea of needlessly
wasting RAM when most of the time I will not be using ppm.
Art the old grouch
hi artsown,
as for the startup items, you need to weigh up the effort of you moving a file or two from /root/Startup to /root/Startup/disabled, compared with having to explain literally over a hundred times (personally) how to update the package lists. it's probably more like a 1000 if you add all the other times that other people have had to explain. this is also the reason that python is in the main iso and not the devx in my pups, as i was tired of explaining to people on #puppylinux why their python apps didn't work.
but the haiku may not stay... is just a bit of fun during development.
this is an alpha and that isn't the final wallpaper just something quickly made using trios wallpaper maker.
anyway, wasn't it you that loved the photo of a bulldog on a skateboard that barry k had in precise
thanks for testing!
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 14:52
by 666philb
DuMar wrote:I noticed a new problem:
When I want to print a document the popup screen from CUPS is so big that I can't reach the print button on the bottom.
I have to change the screen resolution from 1280 x 720 to 1366 x 768 and that is very small. And then I get a restart X so all programs close. It happens of course also when I want to use CUPS PDF.
Next question: I installed TrueCrypt but I have no menu entry, only a shortcut on the desktop. Can I put it manually in the menu in the map utilities?
hi DuMar,
can you post a screenshot of the problem
thanks
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 16:32
by DuMar
This is with Libre Office
And this is with Abiword, it looks like a problem with Libre Office
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 16:35
by Brown Mouse
I couldn’t get text documents to open when clicked on.Even when setup with ‘Default Application Chooser’ set to ‘Geany’ the text is not displayed.
Looking very good.
Thank you for all your hard graft.
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 16:39
by 666philb
DuMar wrote:
This is with Libre Office
And this is with Abiword, it looks like a problem with Libre Office
hi DuMar,
as you have a small screen you could try lowering the dpi . menu>>desktop>>jwmdesk . then try lowering the screen font number and restarting x
Posted: Sat 02 May 2020, 17:42
by DuMar
I lowered it from 96 to 66 but still not enough room.
The best workaround is to export all Libre Office documents to PDF first so I can print in Qpdf.
Or use Abiword.
Not a very big problem.
New question:
How can I backup the savefile? gadmin Rsync gave an error because the savefile is used during the backup. Pupsave backup also no luck because no frugal.