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Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 01:51
by 01micko
Hi James..
Clutching straws here.. any chance your network adapter is not playing with dpup? Can you try a different one?
Cheers
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 05:17
by James C
01micko,
At this point clutching at straws is even welcome......
Don't believe it could be the network adapter because on this present installation Firefox, Arora, Chrome and Opera 10 all work fine and the package manager will download packages.........it just won't update the package lists.
I'm using one of those small form-factor boxes with no expansion slots anyway.......everything is onboard.
tried to update package list through the terminal and got this result....
# wget -t0 -c
ftp://ftp.uwa.edu.au/mirrors/linux/debi ... ckabes.bz2
--2010-01-27 22:53:30--
ftp://ftp.uwa.edu.au/mirrors/linux/debi ... ckabes.bz2
=> `packabes.bz2'
Resolving ftp.uwa.edu.au... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution.
wget: unable to resolve host address `ftp.uwa.edu.au'
I think you had the right idea earlier.....seems like its something to do with ftp................which I know nothing about.

Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 07:02
by Tasgarth
James C,
In wget :
packabes.bz2 ? but packages.bz2
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 07:15
by James C
Tasgarth,
I hadn't noticed that.......thanks a lot for pointing that out.
I copied that from the terminal but didn't really look at it very closely.......

Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 08:05
by James C
Must have had an error when copying the above post. I ran it again in the terminal and got this:
# wget -t0 -c
ftp://ftp.uwa.au./mirrors/linux/debian/ ... ckages.bz2
--2010-01-28 02:00:15--
ftp://ftp.uwa.au./mirrors/linux/debian/ ... ckages.bz2
=> `Packages.bz2'
Resolving ftp.uwa.au.... failed: Name or service not known.
wget: unable to resolve host address `ftp.uwa.au.'
#
EDIT:
Was just installing some things through the PPM and only 2 of the ftp sites in the package manager would connect.

Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 11:36
by tubeguy
I just Googled ftp.uwa.au and I think maybe it should be ftp.uwa.
edu.au.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ft ... ftp.uwa.au
Re: FireFox. Kinda embarrising problem.
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 11:45
by Béèm
Béèm wrote:To show someone puppy I burned a dpup484b4 CD.
I did boot from it to test with puppy pfix=ram.
I made the connection to the internet with the wizard.
Then I wanted to launch FireFox.
Nothing happened.
I tried from the console with sh firefox
After a long time I get:
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./run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 18051 killed "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
So fortunately I tried before, but what happens here? How can this be corrected.
After burning I did the verify of the burn which was ok. I burned with burn2iso.
To save my 'demonstration', I burned a CD with puppy 4.3.1
That one booted ok and I could surf, but not with FireFox as the 4.3.1 uses SeaMonkey.
Intriged by this FireFox issue, I took the CD to my Medion 8818 desktop and booted.
Boot was ok, internet was ok and then the supreme moment: Starting FireFox to surf.
It did load and I could work.
So I can show that person 2 puppies now.
I suspect something in the Thinkpad R40 is causing this FireFox issue.
I'll leave it at this, so I don't want to solve the issue, as in my frugal install, FireFox is starting correctly. on the R40.
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 14:14
by gerry
dpup has both the old wireless setup wizard and Pwireless2. We don't need both. Why not get rid of the wizard? Is there a problem with chopping the wireless part out of the wizard? Replace it by a link to Pwireless2??
I used the wizard to set up my wlan0, innocently thinking that I was using the latest whizzbang Pwireless2.
gerry
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 16:15
by Béèm
I don't use Pwireless 2 being too used to the Network Wizard.
Pwireles 2 doesn't give me always the available routers, NW wizard always.
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 16:45
by nooby
A good reason to keep the old is that sometimes that is the only one that can establish a connection with wired LAN on Broadband where I live.
I try Dpup now on Acer D250 and both setup network can not establish connection.
Then I tried it on my HP sr5622sc and the old one could establish connection. I write from Dpup now.
so most likely I will make a frugal install of it.
I wanted to test StarDust puppy too but the Asia host said the quota for download was up. No more downloads. Maybe I have to wait a week or month?
Edit
just hit the refresh button on your browser a few times Smile
ttuuxxx
hahah, I lack both talent and imagination. Hit F5 a few times. I must try that one.
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 17:28
by ttuuxxx
[quote="nooby"]A good reason to keep the old is that sometimes that is the only one that can establish a connection with wired LAN on Broadband where I live.
I try Dpup now on Acer D250 and both setup network can not establish connection.
Then I tried it on my HP sr5622sc and the old one could establish connection. I write from Dpup now.
so most likely I will make a frugal install of it.
I wanted to test StarDust puppy too but the Asia host said the quota for download was up. No more downloads. Maybe I have to wait a week or month?[/quote
just hit the refresh button on your browser a few times

ttuuxxx
3fs pupsave
Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 18:27
by Jim1911
I converted my pupsave to 3fs using this technique posted by mikeb
here.
mikeb wrote:The main change is that pup-saves formatted ext3 and reiserfs can be used.
To alter an existing (backed up) pupsave use
Then rename to .3fs. When booted mount should show its mounted as 3fs.
EDIT: Mikeb reminded me that if you changed the pup_save to 3fs it will work, but if you check the output of 'mount' in a terminal it will probably be mounted as ext2. Therefore we are receiving no benefit of the journaling file system on ext3 by changing the pupsave.2fs to pupsave.3fs. I checked the output of mount and as Mike said it is mounted as ext2. The solution is to change the initrd.file so that it is mounted as ext3.
Therefore, using mikeb's thread on
Hacking init script which has worked for mikeb on older pups, I created a new initrd.gz using his technique. The only changes are to remove "-t ext2" and replace it with "-t ext3". There were only 3 entries to change.
I use ext3 journaling file system for my frugal installation and the new pupsave.3fs and new initrd.gz are working with no problems. Try it, I believe that it will be more stable than 2fs.
Posted: Fri 29 Jan 2010, 12:16
by gerry
Network Wizard versus PWireless2--
Click on "Connect" icon > wizard.
Click on "Setup" icon > wizard
Click on "Control Panel/ Wireless" > PWireless2.
How does a new user know that? How would they decide which to use if they did know that there is a choice? If someone complains that they can't get on line using wifi, they would have to be asked which they tried with before their query can be answered. Not professional enough.
gerry
Posted: Fri 29 Jan 2010, 15:12
by ttuuxxx
Hi Gposil I've been talking to the developer of tabble and asked him if it could be possible to include clicking on icons and well 2 emails later he did it

now you can launch the programs via the icons

its his first update in years, really cool when a developer who isn't from puppy does some changes
http://www.rillion.net/tabble/
ttuuxxx
sources below
Posted: Fri 29 Jan 2010, 17:10
by jemimah
I think the Pwireless2 thing is going to be a little confusing for a while.
Pwireless2 is still Beta, and for good reason. However it's very helpful to me to have it included in puplets because then I get more feedback and which motivates me to improve it faster. It is a good choice for Dpup to include the tried and true old wizard, since Pwireless2 doesn't always work.
There's a couple thing's I'll try to clarify for people who haven't been reading the Pwireless2 thread.
Despite the name, Pwireless2 does handle wired ethernet connections too. Just plug in your cable and it should automatically get an IP. You can set static IPs on the DHCP tab.
Pwireless2 aggressively takes over networking - it absolutely won't happily coexist with the old network wizard. It's not a simple utility like the original Pwireless, it has background daemons keeping track of your network state at all times, which is probably more resource intensive than the old wizard.
Pwireless2 uses wpa_supplicant for all types of wireless connections. This is bad news for hardware without solid wpa_supplicant support. Some hardware is just going to work better with the traditional wizard.
Pwireless2 was designed for laptop users, to make dealing with multiple networks less of a headache. If you only ever connect to one network, you probably won't see the point.
I have good news. The next version of Pwireless2 will use nolink mode by default, so no more disconnects (hopefully). The connection code has improved a good deal, the tray icon shouldn't get out of sync any more, and it should be faster to acquire a connection at boot up as well. And you'll be able to restart X without the connection dropping. Hopefully I'll post the new version this weekend.
Posted: Fri 29 Jan 2010, 18:31
by Béèm
In dpup beta 4 I don't see the 'antenna' in the tray anymore. Is this wanted or should I still see it?
Posted: Fri 29 Jan 2010, 20:32
by Jim1911
Installed 484b4 as a frugal and also full hd installation on an old Sony Vaio Laptop with only 64MB ram. It runs good, much better than XP.
Posted: Fri 29 Jan 2010, 21:19
by jeffy39
Howdy All,
Attempted to use VirtBox3.1.pet.
At exec time, failed, needed kernel compile.
Ran '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' per inst.
Compile failed with:
'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv: line 301: /opt/VirtualBox/src/vboxdrv/build_in_tmp: No such file or directory.
Suggestions ?
Thanx, jw
Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010, 00:04
by seaside
ttuuxxx wrote:Hi Gposil I've been talking to the developer of tabble and asked him if it could be possible to include clicking on icons and well 2 emails later he did it

now you can launch the programs via the icons

its his first update in years, really cool when a developer who isn't from puppy does some changes
http://www.rillion.net/tabble/
ttuuxxx
sources below
ttuuxxx,
I downloaded and tried to compile the Tabble .041 update but got this error -
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checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.0.0... no
*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
configure: error: Test for GTK+ 2 failed.
The config.log shows -
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configure:3971: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pixman-1 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R7/include -I/usr/include/libpng12 conftest.c -L/usr/X11R7/lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgio-2.0 -lpangoft2-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lpangocairo-1.0 -lcairo -lpango-1.0 -lfreetype -lz -lfontconfig -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 >&5
/mnt/devx_431.sfs/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/i486-t2-linux-gnu/4.2.2/../../../../i486-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lgtk-x11-2.0
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure:3971: $? = 1
configure: program exited with status 1
configure: failed program was:
| /* confdefs.h */
Has this been compiled ok for Puppy or am I missing something?
Cheers,
s
Posted: Sat 30 Jan 2010, 03:20
by ttuuxxx