Fatdog64-700/701 [April 22 2015] [CLOSED]

[jamesbond]

@prehistoric - LOL I hope you aren't hurt (well in fact I hope you weren't sitting on it when the chair collapsed). The problem seems to happen quite often, the most recent one is here, with the solution: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topi ... /?offset=6. That link suggest that you run the card at 100Mbps speed. Mii-tool is included in basesfs. Others suggest lowering the MTU size (the one your kernel log is 9200 bytes), either to 6000 or even bringing it back to the default 1500 (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Jumbo_frames) in other words, disable jumbo frames.

@billtoo - I tried installting google-chrome today, but I can't replicate the problem. Running it from google-chrome-spot works. Perhaps you just happen to download a bad copy (unless I am mistaken, the one that get-google-chrome script gets is a daily build).

[terrapin231]

Update: I have managed to get Smplayer and Smtube working more by ignorant clumsiness, persistance and in the end some good luck, me thinks. In case anyone else is interested I loaded full Qt4.sfs (thanks for the heads up on that jamesbond)
downloaded:
smplayer-14.9.0-SVN r6431-amd64-DEB
smtube-14.8.0-SVN r6431-amd64-DEB
and converted using deb2txz
and installed. Both Smplayer and Smtube ran but Mplayer crashed every time on call. Oops Error message said to check path but path was correct, so obviously some incompatibility with Mplayer version in FD64 700, perhaps connected with the re-compile problem for @Billtoo

Showing my complete ignorance of these things again, I did note the inherent "static" version Mplayer in FD64 700 but also another package available via Gslapt. I tried removing and alternately installing and reinstalling each but Smplayer returned the same error when calling for Mplayer.

Now I don't know if this has anything to do with it, or some other glitch just got happily ironed out as a result of it - I'm loathe to tinker again in case I break what is at present running smoothly - but another package I installed in the trial and error process was:

mplayer-gui-1.0~rc4.dfsg1+svn34540 1+deb7u1-amd64-DEB

On it's own, this package didn't run after installation but it's now installed with Smplayer, Smtube and a removal and reinstallation of mplayer-static from the FD64 700 repo.

In the interests of completeness, I should add that I also installed:
mplayer2-2.0-728-g2c378c7-4+b1-amd64-DEB (converted to txz) but couldn't find a menu entry for it. I seem to remember removing it via Gslapt but perhaps something from it got left behind?? Is there another way to check this. Apologies for being such a clueless novice in these matters

At the moment, everything is working well even though I've no idea exactly why. Perhaps someone with knowledge of these things, patience and an interest in finding out what made this work might be able to work out what on earth I did to get these packages working and let me and anyone else with a penchant for Smplayer/Smtube know?

Cheers!

[prehistoric]

Just thought I'd report that FD700 works on a machine at the other end of the computing-power spectrum, an Intel D410PT board. This has a single-core Atom processor running at 1.66 GHz, with built-in Intel graphics based on the NM10 chip set. The processor does not require a fan.

This one has 2 GB of 667 MHz DDR2 RAM. The SATA ports are not called SATA I, II or III because there was only one SATA standard when it was made. It has no problem with gigabit LAN chips because it is limited to 100 Mb/s. It doesn't believe in USB 3.0.

There is only one PCI slot for expansion.

On the positive side, everything seems to work as well as you could expect in terms of speed.

The big problem here is that putting it in a mini-ITX case would cost about $50, which is more than the result would be worth. My current thoughts are to give this to a friend who wants to build a steampunk computer, and can hide it in a huge case with lots of old electronic components.

[Semme]

Why would FD-700 have trouble creating a save file?

Improper hard disk drivers?

Some type of BIOS security feature?

Ntfs-3g driver unable to mount r/w?

Win7's the installed OS.

It's not currently in my possession but, I could use a tip..

Thanks.

http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/optiplex-755/pd

http://www.computer-specifications.com/ ... Specs.html

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Solved! Ok quick manual mount was all it took.

[Yoliano]

@kirk

Thanks for your reply of March 31, on P.23 of this thread. I apologise for my late response, but I have not been able to give time to my PC over the last week. I followed your instructions and now have a shiny new, configured and empty Savefile. The results so far are as follows:

1 - Alsamixer: Starts at boot without manual intervention and keeps it settings - All OK.
2 - Eztables: Activated at boot without manual intervention and keeps running - All OK.
3 - ntpd-client: Configures OK and runs in same session, but at reboot it corrupts the settings, moving Date and Time forward 12 hours. This is sad because it runs perfectly through reboot in the original savefile! I have de-activated it for now and Date and Time are continuous through reboot. I have not tried “ntpd-boot

[Yoliano]

@jamesbond

Psip came bundled in fd64-631final, where I continue to use it frequently, because I have to make a number of international phonecalls every month. I like it very much, as it provides me with an excellent, reliable and quality service. It is ahead of all the competitors that I know, in the Linux camp. It is not present in fd64-700, nor in Slaptget. I also understand that it is your brainchild?? So, please can it be included at least in Slapget, if not also in fd64-700?

I will appreciate your agreement to this, so that I can abandon my dependence on 631.

Thanks for your consideration of this request.

[jamesbond]

@prehistoric - that's great to hear. To make it even better, if you are running harddisk frugal install, just click the "initrd", move fd64.sfs from inside to the root of the partition where you installed Fatdog, and re-pack it. Then, on the grub command line, put "basesfs=local".

I recently booted my old Acer Netbook (Atom N270 dual core, 1GB RAM), and did the above. When I got to desktop I only used about ~90MB of RAM. Where else you can run 64-bit OS with graphical desktop with only 90MB!

@Semme - most probably the NTFS partition is not clean (improper shutdown, Windows hibernating, etc). Boot Windows on it, do "chkdsk", and Fatdog should be able to create a savefile.

@Yoliano: the eth0 (wired) adapter is good clue. I assume that your ethernet card is built-in to the computer. It is probably a timing issue between eth0 gets initialised, and the ntpd-boot/client gets to run. Both I and kirk seldom use wired network, so it is probably one of the least used component here. I will see if I can reproduce it, here.

When you said about the corruption - 12 hours ahead - is this exactly 12 hours, or actually some kind of number (11 hours 53 minutes, etc)? Is that 12 hours your GMT offset (which implies that the ntpd sync your time to UTC/GMT instead of to your correct timezone)? When you experience this problem, please open terminal and type "hwclock" and see how does it compare with the time shown by "date" command? Do you use UTC hardware clock or localtime hardware clock (if you don't understand the question - it's okay, it means you run the hardware clock on localtime).

@Yoliano - re: PSIP: yes it is. I'm glad you like it. It is on my TODO list, and has been for a very long time I have plans to improve it but fortunately cannot find the time yet. Older software tend to "bitrot" (ie, lose compatibility with newer software), but if I can build it successfully on 700 I will upload it to the repo for you and others to test.

[smokey01]

Yoliano,

Psip compiled in FD700 can be found in my repository along with many other goodies.

In Gslapt, click on Edit > Preferences > Then the Sources Tab.
Click on the Add button and paste in this URL:
http://smokey01.com/fd700/packages/
Then click OK.

Or you can download it directly from here:
http://smokey01.com/fd700/packages/psip ... 6_64-2.txz

@jamesbond

Psip came bundled in fd64-631final, where I continue to use it frequently, because I have to make a number of international phonecalls every month. I like it very much, as it provides me with an excellent, reliable and quality service. It is ahead of all the competitors that I know, in the Linux camp. It is not present in fd64-700, nor in Slaptget. I also understand that it is your brainchild?? So, please can it be included at least in Slapget, if not also in fd64-700?

I will appreciate your agreement to this, so that I can abandon my dependence on 631.

Thanks for your consideration of this request.

[Semme]

JB, read about that but didn't have the patience. Brand new box!

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mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt/sda2

REBOOT!

[tomhewitt]

@Semme - most probably the NTFS partition is not clean (improper shutdown, Windows hibernating, etc). Boot Windows on it, do "chkdsk", and Fatdog should be able to create a savefile.

So to fix Linux you have to install Windows.

[Yoliano]

@smokey01

Many thanks for your response. I have added your repository to Gslapt and installed psip from it. It looks good from brief examination, but I have yet to configure it. If I have any problems I will advise you.

One question: With the GUI window on screen, in the "Online status" field, appears "LHP602b2". This looks like Lighthouse Pup! Why is it there? I find I cannot get rid of it. I can delete it, but relaunching psip brings it back. I do in fact have Lighthouse installed, but on another partition. I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

Thanks again for your software.

[mrpete]

Just wanted to say thanks for releasing this... Works great on a: A68N-5000 mini-ITX board. Starts in normal mode(NON-UEFI) like turning on a light switch( after frugal install!) Built in drivers detected the built in APU Radeon HD 8330 and set up the correct Radeon driver right outta the box!. VLC worked great after setting the VIDEO output to a: openGL or the standard X surface.

And that's that. Fit's on my old 60gig HD side by side with Precise Puppy 5.7.1.

[prehistoric]

@jamesbond,

I've just booted April64 7.03 on the monster machine with 8 cores. It comes up and plays, with that gigabit ethernet connection working, and with the jumbo MTU of 9200. The difference appears to be the net watchdog. The quirky dmessage is attached.

[tomhewitt]

Just wanted to say thanks for releasing this... Works great

When trying to mount FD64-devx_700.sfs in FatDog 64 700 frugal install a message prompts me stating: 'Failed to mount cannot find branch directory'.

[tomhewitt]

@jamesbond,

I've just booted April64 7.03 on the monster machine with 8 cores. It comes up and plays, with that gigabit ethernet connection working, and with the jumbo MTU of 9200. The difference appears to be the net watchdog. The quirky dmessage is attached.

I'm not surprised as previously stated 99% of the problems seem to be with what James and Kirk have left out or removed with hacked up packages.

If they based Fatdog on quirky 64bit then we could just all use the standard quirky files that the community are developing for it and they would have a lot more time on their hands not having to fix and support the very things they have broken.

[smokey01]

I didn't realise I had uploaded the wrong one. It should work fine though.

I have uploaded the version compiled in FD700. Uninstall the current one with Gslapt and then install the new one.

Cheers

@smokey01

One question: With the GUI window on screen, in the "Online status" field, appears "LHP602b2". This looks like Lighthouse Pup! Why is it there? I find I cannot get rid of it. I can delete it, but relaunching psip brings it back. I do in fact have Lighthouse installed, but on another partition. I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

Thanks again for your software.

[step]

@smokey01, when I start gslapt from command line with only your repo as source and I run and update, I get:

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regex failed on [PACKAGE NAME:  samsung_print_fd700-uld.1.0.21-x86_64.txz]
regex failed on [PACKAGE NAME:  samsung_scan_fd700-uld.1.0.21-x86_64.txz]
regex failed on [PACKAGE NAME:  locator-1.1-x86_64.txz]

And those three packages aren't available in gslapt's package list view.

[terrapin231]

Just installed Aovfirewall script. In "Manage Services..." I set it to start at boot but how do I check that it ran? Unlike with eztables, I can't get Manage Services to start it (box remains unchecked). Thanks.

[smokey01]

step you are quite right.

A bit of finger trouble on my part. The problem is now fixed.

Update and try again.

Thanks for letting me know.

@smokey01, when I start gslapt from command line with only your repo as source and I run and update, I get:

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regex failed on [PACKAGE NAME:  samsung_print_fd700-uld.1.0.21-x86_64.txz]
regex failed on [PACKAGE NAME:  samsung_scan_fd700-uld.1.0.21-x86_64.txz]
regex failed on [PACKAGE NAME:  locator-1.1-x86_64.txz]

And those three packages aren't available in gslapt's package list view.

[Yoliano]

@jamesbond

Thanks for your last messages, I appreciate your attention to my little problems. Responding to your points:
1 - Yes, the internet adaptor is integrated with the Intel motherboard of my PC.
2 - Time corruption - "12 hours ahead": I have delayed responding to you, because I realised that I could not answer your question securely! I don't know if it is exactly 12 hours or not. The observations and calcs. were made "a carrera" in the middle of configuring 700 and are far from precise. Also, it is more difficult than you perhaps imagine, to read and write down 2 time displays simultaneously! I don't want to give you dodgy data and create unnecessary headaches for you and kirk, so I am going to retrace my steps and make some new tests. Also, I will recruit some other person to share the reading of the clocks with me.I will also make the comparison that you propose. So please be patient and give me a couple of days, or so and I will come back to you with some more precise and reliable data. (I hope!).
3 - There is another factor present in this matter: There are to many variables, like 2 apps for syncing, actual time and displayed time, UTC and local time,2 savefiles, (in my case), display options, etc., resulting in too many permutations of configuration to handle. I suggest that some simplification would be good.
4 - When I started my config., I selected "local time" for the hwclock, as I have always used it previously. But, I found that the display would only show "AM" time, although I was making the config. in "PM" time. I could not get it to change it's mind! (This seems like the same problem - 12 hour shift). So I changed the hwclock to UTC, which allowed "PM" time and I stayed with UTC from thereon, which is the present config. Please note my Timezone is UTC - 5 hours.
5 - Psip - Thanks for your explanation and congratulations for creating a very nice software package! You will have seen that I am running with smokey01 for the present. But, when your time allows, I shall be delighted to try your improved version. I look forward to it! It is a very important app. for me. (I wonder how you are going to improve it?).

Thanks again for all your tremendous dedication to fd and your most valuable help.