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Aitch · #41 Post by **Aitch** » Tue 14 Apr 2009, 10:24

Some more news/links for you

I believe YDL has solved the journaling HFS+/Linux problem, but I'm not certain & can't find specific reference

http://mac.wareseeker.com/Utilities/yel ... zip/332750

http://us.fixstars.com/products/ydl/

http://us.fixstars.com/support/downloads/

http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp. ... yellowdog/

ftp://ftp.yellowdoglinux.com/pub/yellowdog/

Fink looks interesting, too

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=582265

Other Apple news

http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?si ... 31/1629236

http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?si ... 28/2339246

Hope you find something interesting/useful, & it doesn't distract from your efforts?

Aitch

PowerPup · #42 Post by **PowerPup** » Thu 16 Apr 2009, 09:43

Thanks for the info Aitch.

Looking around in support on YDL I found a howto on HFS+ mounting.
http://us.fixstars.com/support/solution ... plus.shtml

It doesn't talk about journaling so I wouldn't know if they fixed it or not. Maybe I'll look into it more.

As for my progress, I have the flu so I am probably not going to much on PowerPup this week.

I do have the source tar extracted on the new hard disk, so I'm going to look into that and see if it can help me build the sfs file.

Aitch · #43 Post by **Aitch** » Sat 18 Apr 2009, 20:09

I found a howto on HFS+ mounting

Oh Yes, ....I remember,.....by Kai Staats

He was CEO of Terrasoft, & was developer of YDL & Linux for PS3

It was based on MKLinux

Here's an ftp site with very early files for ppc [2005]

ftp://ftp.mklinux.org/pub/mklinux-pre-R1/

the origins of ydl....early interview Kai Staats

http://us.fixstars.com/news/articles/linuxammac/

I'd forgotten about MKLinux, [apple development & funding, I believe]

I don't know if any of it is still relevant, but you never know, some clever tricks maybe.....?

He was also responsible for this little gem

http://nstanosheck.wordpress.com/2006/1 ... -from-you/

I don't know if it had any effect, but PR is PR, right?

Here's to googlelinks for Powerpup, eh?

Puppy-on-a-mac may get googlebotted for this

Keep on truckin'

Aitch

technosaurus · #44 Post by **technosaurus** » Sat 18 Apr 2009, 21:42

here are the t2 packages
http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/powerpc/

Includes:
# dtc/
# gtkpbbuttons/
# mac-fdisk/
# macosd/
# mol/
# pbbuttonsd/
# pdisk/
# petitboot/
# pmud/
# powerpc-utils/
# quik/
# yaboot/

Aitch · #45 Post by **Aitch** » Mon 20 Apr 2009, 00:30

more.......PPC embedded

http://www.denx.de/wiki/view/PPCEmbedde ... ction_2.4.

Crux

http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=crux-ppc-in-version-2.4

Firefox 3.01 Community build on PPC Linux

http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=firefox301-com ... ux-powerpc

*buntu for PPC

http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=node/7233

Gnash

http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=node/7214

Flash Cookies: The Silent Privacy Killer

For those people that want to see what is actually stored in these files, Gnash includes a utility program called "soldumper", which will do this for you to make sure your privacy isn't being invaded. -- rob

Nice touch!

Aitch

PowerPup · #46 Post by **PowerPup** » Tue 21 Apr 2009, 20:14

Thanks for the links and info guys.

I'm sure it will come handy down the road.

I've been enjoying the great weather here and so I still haven't gotten around to PowerPup yet.

But I plan to soon. Maybe on a rainy day or something. (It rains quite often here.)

(Hey Aitch, I'm a Garfield fan too!

)
-PowerPup

cobelloy · #47 Post by **cobelloy** » Fri 24 Apr 2009, 00:41

hi, I have an old g3 imac again - looking forward to testing ur power puppy, also I had a play with the little dog picture

ChiJoan · #48 Post by **ChiJoan** » Fri 24 Apr 2009, 08:37

Hello PowerPup,

I'll be using a separate hard drive for installing from your Live CD/DVD, since my Mac OSX hard drive is only 20 GIG in size. I got lucky and bought my G4 PowerPC tower with an OS on it or RAM for $15.00. I tested RAM and had the best luck with sticks that were both PC100 and PC133. I found the Ubuntu 6.0 Live CD was the only one to boot automatically. I had to research how to use the Mac, but without Flash or Gnash, I got discouraged and went back to the many Intel PCs I have around here.

If you get busy with the Puppy Kennel, I'll be sure to pull my Mac out of the closet. You're an answer to a prayer I had when I first bought my Mac.

Good luck compiling, etc.,
Joan in Reno

PowerPup · #49 Post by **PowerPup** » Sat 25 Apr 2009, 03:50

Nice work on the pic cobelloy! Maybe I'll find a place for it on the site.

Thanks for the encouragement ChiJoan, yeah, I still need to learn how to make static builds.

Right now it's a matter of figuring out how to and trying to build the filesystem structure.

Update: I've redesigned the PowerPup website.

Take a look at http://powerpup.yi.org/

Aitch · #50 Post by **Aitch** » Sat 25 Apr 2009, 22:10

Just a quick word

Nice mod on the pic, cobelloy!

I suppose I should have sought permission to use it,

but anyway here's a link

Her name is lilibeth, see her kilts etc

http://www.ttsint.com/kilts/kiltpics.htm

I did contemplate joining the webring......

- what do you think?

Powerpup, website's doing OK

Aitch

cobelloy · #51 Post by **cobelloy** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 04:43

how about this one - I like the face better (and yeah, her permission might be a good idea...)

Aitch · #52 Post by **Aitch** » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 15:20

powerpup

fresh info, courtesy fix

source http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40386

http://wiki.pdaxrom.org/index.php/Main_Page

http://wiki.pdaxrom.org/index.php/Targe ... es#PowerPC

It gets to look as though more folks like Powerpup/PPC builds

Aitch

PowerPup · #53 Post by **PowerPup** » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 20:25

Especially if it's for their PS3.

Thanks for the info Aitch.

Maybe I'll be able to use it. I think I've been almost purposely avoiding the huge task before me because. Well, it a huge task.

I guess I feel somewhat unprepared and there isn't going to be a simpler way to make the filesystem. Think what I'll do is just get the CLI working and build from the ground up. Or something like that, I just need to get in there and do some research and decide what I'll try first.

Oh yeah, I STILL need to find out how to make static builds. If anyone know how to do this on a PC I would greatly appreciate a link to a guide or if they typed one up real quick for me. I can take that info and use it on my Linux Mac.

-PowerPup

Aitch · #54 Post by **Aitch** » Thu 30 Apr 2009, 21:01

Oh yeah, I STILL need to find out how to make static builds. If anyone know how to do this on a PC I would greatly appreciate a link to a guide or if they typed one up real quick for me

You need to talk to Technosaurus, maybe you could even persuade him to come onboard with Powerpup

see

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40386

Aitch

joel · #55 Post by **joel** » Tue 05 May 2009, 16:54

I cant wait for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a G3 Lomabrd wasting space right now, and I have been waiting with baited breath for this. Imagine how great the world will be when Puppy is on a Mac.

I am not a windows, or a mac... I am a puppy.

PowerPup · #56 Post by **PowerPup** » Thu 14 May 2009, 07:18

I'm glad to hear that many are excited about my project. (I know I am.)

Anyway, I wanted to give a little update so people aren't wondering if the FBI got me for attempting to make Puppy available for PPC macs.

Currently I am at a pause with my project for two reasons.

I've kinda reached the end of my linux guru skills rope. I'm going to need to learn more about the fundamentals of linux and how Puppy's clockwork ticks.

Getting into summer now so I'll be spending a lot more time outside and be looking for a summer job.

So with that my PowerPup project will be a rest for a while. Until I can build the root system and such, I'll tinker with it once in a while. I still plan to try to get a more usable version (working CLI) out soon. Just don't know when that would be.

Puppy on!!!

PowerPup.

technosaurus · #57 Post by **technosaurus** » Thu 14 May 2009, 21:36

@powerpup - if you have questions, just ask. I learned quite a bit from building LFS, reading through the T2 and now woof build scripts and recently from doing file by file comparisons of most of the small distros' base packages. FYI...After that comparison it really made me appreciate the gobolinux package methodology.

PowerPup · #58 Post by **PowerPup** » Fri 15 May 2009, 19:40

Thanks Technosaurus.

I do need to learn how to make static builds with uclibc and/or dietlibc. I had thought of doing file-by-file comparison to build the PPC sqaushfs. (using LFS as a guideline is a good idea too, just need to take the time to read it and learn it.) But to do that I need to find sources for all the programs in there, (eg: X, Pup programs, etc.) And I'm not sure where to find them, (considering Puppy uses a mixed/custom package of X) and make static builds.

So information on these things would greatly help.

Thanks.

PowerPup.

technosaurus · #59 Post by **technosaurus** » Sat 16 May 2009, 03:11

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -dingo.tar
all sources from the original 4.0 T2 build = 1.0GB

But I wouldn't overlook the tinycorelinux sources...
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... lease/src/
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... lease/src/

you might try the ppc snapshot of t2
http://dl.t2-project.org/binary/unstabl ... r31274.iso
and modify Barry's target for woof (attached)

Aitch · #60 Post by **Aitch** » Sat 16 May 2009, 11:19

Thanks Techno

Aitch

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