Quirky7-light 32&64 bit - April 2020

[jrb]

I'm struggling with covid19 measures.

Please stay safe. My wife is working hard to keep me in line. It isn't easy.

[jrb]

I see that futwerk has created 3 more typically beautiful backgrounds for Quirky7-light.

Thanks again futwerk, J

[jrb]

I discovered that evince in both A32 and A64 is broken. How did I miss that. It turns out it goes back to my installing a different version of openssl so wget would work without "--nocheckcertificate". Luckily wget and evince both seem happy with the original libcrypto.so.1.0.0 and libssl.so.1.0.0 so here are:
A32_evince_fix-0.1.pet
A64_evince_fix-0.1.pet
Please do some wget tests to make sure I am right. If everything works well I will include in the first ISO update.

Cheers, J

Edit: fixed in 1st update

[watchdog]

html5 streaming not working in A64 with palemoon-28.8.4:

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# /mnt/home/ppalemoon28_64/palemoon
GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.
Segmentation fault
#

Firefox 74.0 is not affected by this problem.

Odd thing: using apulse with palemoon solves the problem.

[enrique]

This project got my eyes for a few days. I been reading your post. I like the small footprint and the fact that may run in many old PC. For example, I could spare 500MB-1GB for this project + puppysave on each of my USB memories. Small price to pay, knowing that I will have a working Puppy with me all the time.

You guys never concluded you discussion on Abiword/Gnumeric/Office. What is your conclusion base on the smallest footprint?

I guess you stick with palemoon.

Thanks ahead.

[jrb]

html5 streaming not working in A64 with palemoon-28.8.4:

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# /mnt/home/ppalemoon28_64/palemoon
GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.
Segmentation fault
#

Firefox 74.0 is not affected by this problem.

Odd thing: using apulse with palemoon solves the problem.

Thanks for testing watchdog.
Interesting find on Palemoon. I have fredx181's extra apulse libs for Firefox:

• libatomic.so.1 libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0 libpulse.so.0 libatomic.so.1.1.0 libpulse-simple.so.0

built in to Q7. Did you have to add more than that? Palemoon has crashed several times on https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia but only when I've had three or more tabs open and not while playing videos. No problem with Vivaldi.

My satellite bandwidth is very low at times so it makes it difficult to be sure what causes problems. I tried responding this morning but couldn't get the response to upload, both in Palemoon and Vivaldi.

Edit: apulse included in 1st update

[watchdog]

html5 streaming not working in A64 with palemoon-28.8.4:

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# /mnt/home/ppalemoon28_64/palemoon
GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.
Segmentation fault
#

Firefox 74.0 is not affected by this problem.

Odd thing: using apulse with palemoon solves the problem.

Thanks for testing watchdog.
Interesting find on Palemoon. I have fredx181's extra apulse libs for Firefox:

• libatomic.so.1 libpulse-mainloop-glib.so.0 libpulse.so.0 libatomic.so.1.1.0 libpulse-simple.so.0

built in to Q7. Did you have to add more than that?

I have only installed OscarTalks' apulse:

http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apulse-0.1.12-x86_64.pet

Then run palemoon with:

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apulse /path-to/palemoon "$@"

The workaround came reading reports of crashing and segfaulting palemoon because of sound.

I use portable versions of other browsers which already have extralibs.

[jrb]

This project got my eyes for a few days. I been reading your post. I like the small footprint and the fact that may run in many old PC. For example, I could spare 500MB-1GB for this project + puppysave on each of my USB memories. Small price to pay, knowing that I will have a working Puppy with me all the time.

You guys never concluded you discussion on Abiword/Gnumeric/Office. What is your conclusion base on the smallest footprint?

I guess you stick with palemoon.

Thanks ahead.

Glad you like it. Over the years I've salvaged many old computers with Puppy. I still have several and I've given many away. Creeping bloat has made it more difficult but I'm hoping this project will work well for several years.

Your question about Goffice got me thinking. I don't know it you read my comments on FreeOffice but I thought a comparison of ram usage betwee the two would be of value:

• Startup - Actual Used RAM: 129 MB
  Textmaker - new document - Actual Used RAM: 210 MB
  Textmaker - 603 page document - Actual Used RAM: 225 MB
  Install goffice - Actual Used RAM: 139 MB
  Abiword - startup - Actual Used RAM: 156 MB
  Abiword - 603 page document - Actual Used RAM: 327 MB

You can see that a new document in Abiword uses 54 MB less. But the same large document uses 100MB more. Add to that every time I have used Abiword with a document over two pages or even one page with an image it has crashed. My choice seems clear.

As for Palemoon, as much as I like it and the people who make it, it seems to be struggling a bit right now. I have included installers for Firefox and Vivaldi. Seamonkey and Chromium work well. There are a number of portable browsers in the Browser section of the forum that are good too.

Q7-light is a work in progress right now. I think I have the major bugs dealt with and will release an updated version soon.

Cheers, J

[jrb]

I have only installed OscarTalks' apulse:

http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apulse-0.1.12-x86_64.pet

Then run palemoon with:

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apulse /path-to/palemoon "$@"

The workaround came reading reports of crashing and segfaulting palemoon because of sound.

I use portable versions of other browsers which already have extralibs.

Thanks, I'll install OscarTalks' apulse in both A32 and A64 and try running Palemoon that way. If it helps I'll include it in Q7-light.

[watchdog]

qA64light: spot user not working with skypeforlinux. Need:

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chown -R spot:spot /home

Current official skypeforlinux is now working using run-as-spot.

[jrb]

qA64light: spot user not working with skypeforlinux. Need:

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chown -R spot:spot /home

Current official skypeforlinux is now working using run-as-spot.

Thanks once again watchdog.

Edit: fixed in 1st update

[jrb]

I've just uploaded the 1st updated ISOs containing all the fixes to date:

april-7.0.1B-uefi.iso md5sum 0616c5aede9c1a280474dfd58bfd7fca
april64-7.0.1B-uefi.iso md5sum 0e8ea0ffe1060746d24478b34d5fff8f


Here are deltas (much smaller downloads) if you just want to upgrade the original ISO:

Place the original ISO and the .delta in the same directory and click on the .delta

april-7.0.1-uefi.iso___april-7.0.1B-uefi.iso.delta md5sum 7006453832e58dfde86c223650753385
april64-7.0.1-uefi.iso___april64-7.0.1B-uefi.iso.delta md5sum 0e8ea0ffe1060746d24478b34d5fff8f

Note: 2nd upload on the A64 ISO and .delta @ 16:34 UTC

[watchdog]

april32: evince does not show my default printer but only "Print to file". I'm printing with:

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lp file

which works.

I have switched to cups-1.4.8-w5c.pet.

EDIT: april64 has the same problem for evince.

I have inserted a menu item in right-click menu to print pdf files with lp.

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#!/bin/sh
lp "$@" 

[jrb]

april32: evince does not show my default printer but only "Print to file". I'm printing with:

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lp file

which works.

I have switched to cups-1.4.8-w5c.pet.

EDIT: april64 has the same problem for evince.

I have inserted a menu item in right-click menu to print pdf files with lp.

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#!/bin/sh
lp "$@" 

Thanks for finding that. Here are fixes that work in cups-1,7,5. Hopefully they work in cups-1.4.8. No reboot required.

print_menu_fix-A32-0.6.pet
print_menu_fix-A64-0.6.pet

Will be in 2nd updated ISO.

[8Geee]

This looks fairly good. No download yet. I would like to know what video drivers are included, hoping for i915.

Thanks and Regards
8Geee

[jrb]

This looks fairly good. No download yet. I would like to know what video drivers are included, hoping for i915.

Thanks and Regards
8Geee

You're very welcome. Contents of /usr/X11R7/lib/dri:

• i915_dri.so
  nouveau_dri.so
  r600_dri.so
  swrast_dri.so
  i965_dri.so
  r200_dri.so
  radeon_dri.so
  vmwgfx_dri.so
  kms_swrast_dri.so
  r300_dri.so
  radeonsi_dri.so

So far I'm very pleased. All the packages I've tried from PuppyTahr have worked so there's lots available. Once all the bugs are ironed out I'll see about offering up some accessories.

Cheers, J

[darry19662018]

Thanks JRB for this very solid. Running on an HP Pav dv6000.

[jrb]

Thanks JRB for this very solid. Running on an HP Pav dv6000.

You're very welcome Darry. Still looking for bugs, any feedback will be appreciated. I used to have an HP dv6000. I remember it had a nice large screen.

[jrb]

html5 streaming not working in A64 with palemoon-28.8.4:

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# /mnt/home/ppalemoon28_64/palemoon
GLib-GIO-Message: Using the 'memory' GSettings backend.  Your settings will not be saved or shared with other applications.
Segmentation fault/code]Firefox 74.0 is not affected by this problem.[/quote]Do you have link I can use for testing?  Does this happen with Palemoon in other Pup's?
[/quote]Booted 32-bit Quirky7-light-RC, Palemoon 28.8.4 plays [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JfmcHIziA[/url]
I guess that's html5 streaming ?[/quote]Hi Sheldon, just going back through the thread and realized I forgot to thank you for the link.  

Hope you are well, J

[jrb]

qA64light: spot user not working with skypeforlinux. Need:

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chown -R spot:spot /home

Current official skypeforlinux is now working using run-as-spot.

Yay! This fixed the problem with running Slimjet. Have only tried it in A32 but I'm sure it will work with A64 as well.

Thanks again watchdog.