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#41 Post by wanderer »

it built the iso

puppy.iso 208 megs

now to test the iso


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#42 Post by wanderer »

burned iso to usb

it boots from usb

but cannot find the sfs file

and drops to the ramdrive shell

the file however is on the usb


however this is just tweaking


so now jamesbond's puppy

is the base of this project

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#43 Post by wanderer »

important announcement

jamesbond has been so gracious to write a small woof-ce

just what i have been whining about all these years

i have run it and it works

it will now be the base of this project

i will post the iso in the repository for people to play with

i will name it puppy1.iso


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#44 Post by wanderer »

i burned puppy1.iso to a cd

it boots and can startx

but its internet wizard doesnt work

however this gives us a complete base to work with

i will start looking at how to combine various parts together

so we can fix the usb and the internet stuff


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#45 Post by darry19662018 »

Great work Wanders.
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#46 Post by wanderer »

hi all

i suggest that if you are interested

you might run jamebonds woof-ce

it is very fast and simple to use

just like we always asked for

remember you have to change the /bin/dash to /bin/sh

to get it to run

i have to find the file again

but if you run it it will fail at that point

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#47 Post by wanderer »

so here is the plan

we will learn jamesbonds system

and then figure out how to replace components

so we can change the components it uses

and build a hybrid system

we will then be able to use it to build whatever puppy we want

and develop it as needed



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#48 Post by darry19662018 »

It is using slapt-get from slackware and there seems to be some missing firmware my wireless network card isn't there.
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#49 Post by wanderer »

yes darry

i couldnt connect to the internet either

i am going to try to substitute different modules
for the ones in the folders
and see if we can add and subtract stuff

then we should be able to put more up to date stuff in

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#50 Post by darry19662018 »

They are here. Copied to save file.

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#51 Post by wanderer »

thanks

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#52 Post by wanderer »

hi all

unfortunately after analyzing jamesbonds woof-ce
i have come to the conclusion that that kind of a system
cannot produce the kind of distro i envision

it is a neat system
and very fast and easy to use
but like all woof-ce clones it weaves all the pieces together

this is incompatible with a modular system

so i will go back to the system that i devised
which is a modular approach

that means that upupbb32 will once again be the base of this project
and a1.iso and a2.iso will be what we are working on

i do however want to thank jamesbond for making his woof-ce available
and for inspiring this project
and for all his help and support

i will correct the first post to reflect this

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#53 Post by wanderer »

hi all

this is an announcement that this project
will support 2 alternative build systems for puppy

1. my modular build system
which builds a modular puppy

2. and jamesbonds woof-ce next
which builds a standard puppy

i will need help to develop both
so if you are interested
please post on this thread

have a nice day

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#54 Post by wanderer »

hi all

i my opinion the key to making jamesbonds woof-ce next
more manageable
is to make is search for a smaller repository of components
just the puppy woof-ce repository

then we wouldnt have to be concerned
with the constantly changing big distros

we could then over time build a small repository
just for jamesbonds woof-ce next
with just the stuff we wanted

we could access components from other distros
and make them into woof-ce next components
and put them in the woof-ce next repository for our use later

this is what i am trying to do now

any help would be appreciated

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#55 Post by s243a »

wanderer wrote:hi all

i my opinion the key to making jamesbonds woof-ce next
more manageable
is to make is search for a smaller repository of components
just the puppy woof-ce repository

then we wouldnt have to be concerned
with the constantly changing big distros

we could then over time build a small repository
just for jamesbonds woof-ce next
with just the stuff we wanted

we could access components from other distros
and make them into woof-ce next components
and put them in the woof-ce next repository for our use later

this is what i am trying to do now

any help would be appreciated

wanderer
You mean just convert the core of what we need from another distro into a pet and put it into a new repository?

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#56 Post by wanderer »

hi a243a

yes just take any component of any system

convert it into a pet and put it in
the jamesbond woof-ce next repository

then have his system load it into a puppy

that way you can make the puppy a combination of all systems

and you wouldnt have to worry about
keeping up with the changes of the big distros

that is what i am trying to figure out how to do now

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#57 Post by foxpup »

wanderer wrote:it built the iso

puppy.iso 208 megs

now to test the iso


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Isn't that big for barebones?

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#58 Post by wanderer »

yeah foxpup

but thats just a start

we will get it down to a minimal system

and using sfs files and the pets

we can make it modular


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pkg or puppy build

#59 Post by foxpup »

wanderer wrote:hi a243a

yes just take any component of any system

convert it into a pet and put it in
the jamesbond woof-ce next repository

then have his system load it into a puppy

that way you can make the puppy a combination of all systems

and you wouldnt have to worry about
keeping up with the changes of the big distros

that is what i am trying to figure out how to do now

wanderer
We can already install .deb .txz .rpm ... to Puppy. Or is this not what you mean with 'components of any system'?

Should we not consider to compile in the base Puppy, instead of having a repository?
In that case petbuilds in woof CE could be interesting.
But even more so Pkg from sc0ttman, one of the best things created in Puppyland on the last years:
Pkg - CLI package manager
Just my idea.

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#60 Post by foxpup »

wanderer wrote:yeah foxpup

but thats just a start

we will get it down to a minimal system

and using sfs files and the pets

we can make it modular


wanderer
Okay, I will try to build and look inside to understand.
Wish me luck :wink:

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