Slaxer_Pup 4.12 solid and stable non woof build

[fyujj]

So someone has that old laptop with its original win98 and maybe just a floppy drive. I know the smart guys always can find a way to install a modern Linux there but...there are some careful people that manage to take care of their Windows installation so long, they deserve not having to stress their precious machine and install the up-to-date **Slaxer Pup** in just one click (a few clicks TBH, but we don't need to spread that).
So Puppy-Win32-Installer http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44098 + Slaxer Pup = slaxerpup.exe.zip http://www.divshare.com/download/7994250-ae1

md5sum=4721f3270460af1dd37030afc7d23bdd

[big_bass]

Aitch

I said about the info_get script

*this will work for any version of puppy*

I should have said will adjust it to work for "any version" if
requested


here's the updated version
will work for those without dmidecode

thanks for testing on older versions of puppy

Joe

[big_bass]

fyujj


great to hear about your alternative install !
I'll have to investigate that


Did you use the latest on http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/

thanks for the report
and the link

Joe

[fyujj]

Hi, bb.
Credits go to seeker for the installer and for http://www.icpug.org.uk/national/linnwi ... innwin.htm
BTW, it works perfectly in my Win2k VirtualBox install. I had the .iso but had it not installed but I may do it now (in a frugal inside Hardy).

Correct me if I'm wrong but if the new initrd is basically to enable a usb boot then it would be no use here. This is an installer, after all.

There's just on thing: the ReadMe file is in Portuguese. Attached is the original English one (just a basic introduction to a Puppy frugal install for first time users - later I'll upload an installer in English and with the updated initrd since I've already changed it here)

[Aitch]

Thanks Joe, updated version posted

fyujj,
What version of virtualbox are you using in Win2K, as I just tried to get 3.0.2 to go and went all the way back to 1.6.0 & it'll only run in XP, apparently.....
I was trying to get playdayz new 4.2.1 virtualpup to go, but don't know if it'll go in your version, can you test it, please?

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45028

sorry Joe, bit aside I know.....

Aitch

[fyujj]

Aitch, this installer installs Puppy (in this case Slaxer Pup 412) directly to Windows just like a frugal install and it edits the Windows original boot loader so it doesn't install GRUB.
So I installed in a Windows 2k virtual machine running inside Ubuntu.

Just FYI, it is VB 3.0.2 (Linux version, of course).

That Puppy 4.2.1 virtual machine may be nice indeed since playdayz took the time to set it up (the stuff we're not always willing to do).

But in your case, you could just use Puppy 4.2.1 .exe file, which another guy made and ecomoney is mirrorring http://www.ecomoney.eu/puppy/winstaller ... -pl421.exe

Edit - well, I see you're actually trying to get VB running in Win2k. In VirtualBox's site it is said that it is 'primarily for Windows XP'. You can bet on that...
I saw on the web a link for VB for Win2k and it was v. 1.5.4 , only the link wasn't working. Maybe Qemu or VMware would work (I've never used them, though).
http://www.vmware.com/download/player/
http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/

OTOH, you could also install VB in Puppy and create a Win2k virtual machine (I know it takes longer to update with service packs and such but it works really well).

[jduffy22335]

Aitch

here's the updated version
will work for those without dmidecode

Joe

Here is the info for an old laptop, PII 300MHz with 128 M.
Frugal and floppy was painful, so went full install of your Slxr Pup and a PCMCIA wireless card, not to shabby for the old girl.

[big_bass]

jduffy22335

thanks for posting the information


is your fan working ?

Joe

[big_bass]

EZ4arabs
could you attach some hardware info using the click_here

in this thread called info_get Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:39 am

I would like to see what happened between frugal and full installs


thanks
I would like to solve that and logs are needed


Joe

[big_bass]

8-bit

thanks for the info

and posting the tarball


ohh I remembered you said MFM drives

I remember setting them up using a cheat sheet
to get the correct drive code number selected

I also remember thinking why would you ever need more than 10MB
for a hard drive

Joe

[jduffy22335]

jduffy22335

thanks for posting the information


is your fan working ?

Joe

I hear a fan running at the "cooling" port, so I believe yes. Also had it siting at the Desktop screen overnight without getting very warm.

I have never run this Laptop before, it was heading to the junk pile when I received it to play around with.

[Aitch]

OOOH..... MLM....

I remember them....had one like the dual height one at the back



Edit: image seems to be getting blocked?

http://redhill.net.au/d/jpg/d-st-assorted.jpg on link below

for anyone who doesn't [little bit aside, but just too much fun, yay]

http://redhill.net.au/d/d-a.html

There are places with these things still running, in locked cupboards, non-stop for over 10 years!!

Reliability rules!

Aitch

[jduffy22335]

This is info for a Dell XPS420, Quad core, 4 gigs of memory produced as Frugal on NTFS, Frugal on Vfat, and Full on Ext2.
My question is that this Slaxer Pup seems to be showing indications that I am having "Disk write error" on all three types of installs. I am still fairly new so please bear with me, I previously suspected I had issues when I had " not totally repeatable" results under Ttuuxxx's 214X and Gposil's Dpup-476 version. This slaxer version reports inode errors on shutdown under NTFS frugal, and mounting unchecked filesystems on all installs even when I used the Full to e2fsck -a the save files of both frugals.

Again, this is NOT a Slaxer Pup issue, it is actually being reported under Slaxer but not others including the Winblows system, but I believe it is real. Just looking for more understanding before I go to the trouble of slicking both disks and pulling my hair out re-installing the WinXP that I have not yet weened the wife off. Thanks to all that may help.

[Aitch]

jduffy22335

I have seen inode problems due to a removable drive being removed from a windoze rig without using 'safely remove hardware'
Apparently it flags the drive in some way, which then gets picked up by ntfs-3G, which puppy uses, as an unclean mount

There was a force option, to fix it, but I'm not sure how you implement it

see something like...

http://forum.ntfs-3g.org/viewtopic.php?t=961

alternately, put the drive back in a win box and run chkdsk in safemode

Though I'd backup any puppy files, knowing that chkdsk can destroy linux files without trying LOL

HTH

Aitch

[jduffy22335]

jduffy22335

I have seen inode problems due to a removable drive being removed from a windoze rig without using 'safely remove hardware'
Apparently it flags the drive in some way, which then gets picked up by ntfs-3G, which puppy uses, as an unclean mount

There was a force option, to fix it, but I'm not sure how you implement it

see something like...

http://forum.ntfs-3g.org/viewtopic.php?t=961

alternately, put the drive back in a win box and run chkdsk in safemode

Though I'd backup any puppy files, knowing that chkdsk can destroy linux files without trying LOL

HTH

Aitch

Aitch, part of the real issue is Chkdsk of the drives under Billy G's software both 32 XP and 64 bit Vista thinks all is well But Slaxer Pup is telling me that we have a problem with the disks.

I am still re-learning the systems under Puppy version of Linux, since the last time I used *nix type systems was approx. 1993-1999 when Linux was downloaded as 1.44 disk via BBS, and a "total" system of PKG disk was like 20 floppies I also had Sys V, QNX and HPUX 9 so learning was difficult based on the real differences that were not documented as well as they are today. I was also forced into the Billy G systems starting at NT 3.5 through 2000, as well as Novell 2.0 through 3.12. I have info in my head BUT the cobwebs are making it hard.

[big_bass]

Hey guys


I have always wanted a super fast find tool for files

and the standard built in find is very elegant but painfully slow


so I went about this a different way
I patched the slocate backend to create a data base of files first on
your system then you can rapidly search for any file from that data
base

and front ended it with a very simple GUI
in Menu>Filesystem>Sfind

sfind for slaxer find

enjoy the speed


Note: the package is only 32kb but I set it up to auto generate
the data base this takes about two minutes maybe longer if you have
a lot of files when the package is first installed so be patient then it will be croned to make a new data base
everyday (a new one replacing the old one ) automatically

UPDATED INFO: cron isnt auto updating so just click on this script when you want to update the database /etc/cron.daily/slocate



it uses leafpad to open the file so install that also if you removed it
but leafpad is already installed as default in many versions

Joe

[Aitch]

Aha!
Joe, a man after me own 'eart y'are, m'ladd
I love fast finds/databases - the very principle should be added to mainstream puppy, & the forum & repositories, IMHO

thanks

@jduffy22335

I'll assume you've tried ntfs check

see here for a command line method, if not

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 197d825531

If you need to go to a low-level diagnostic utility, try checking the drive with testdisk, I use TRK, as it's on there

http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?w ... ront_id=12

Just burn it to CD, pop in your CDplayer, boot & type testdisk at the prompt, select 'intel' & 'analyse'

info

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step

good luck

Aitch

[ttuuxxx]

Hi Bigbass

Does Slaxer pup support the latest Slackware format extension "txz"
http://packages.slackware.it/package.ph ... i486-3.txz
all the "slackware current" model uses this new format. I can't open it with xarchive,xarchiver,peazip when I tried a few months back, I figured you might have some sort of idea, If not It could be on my list of things to do.
if you go to
http://packages.slackware.it/
and select "slackware-current" from the dropdown menu and do a search they will all be .txz extenstion
ttuuxxx

[big_bass]

I was holding this back until more testing was done on the "official
slackware" for the new package formats but all seems fine so far

so here it is for *.txz


you need both below
Slaxer_Pup can install them also directly as is

http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/pkgtools-1 ... 6-slxr.pet
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/unpackager ... 6-slxr.pet


Joe

[jduffy22335]

@jduffy22335

I'll assume you've tried ntfs check

see here for a command line method, if not

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 197d825531

If you need to go to a low-level diagnostic utility, try checking the drive with testdisk, I use TRK, as it's on there

http://trinityhome.org/Home/index.php?w ... ront_id=12

Just burn it to CD, pop in your CDplayer, boot & type testdisk at the prompt, select 'intel' & 'analyse'

info

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step

good luck

Aitch

Thanks Aitch, will look into the links. I tried different WinPe boot Cds and some reflect the NTFS drive as "raw" so I am not sure if the SATA controller / driver issue, or the formating of the NTFS partition. I can keep the Vfat and Ext2 in check by appending with Pfix FSCK. This leads me into the actual NTFS formatting. Thanks for keeping the ideas coming, Cob Webs are starting to break free and have jogged some memories.