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Updated a frugal installation of luci-243/KDE Trinity and a frugal installation of luci-244 to luci-245. Both installations upgraded without a problem and apparently work fine.

Kudos,
Jim

Fresh frugal install of Luci-245 on the old P3 test box.

Initial boot had working sound, internet and the correct 1024x768 screen resolution. But, after following my normal procedure and setting my time zone as "US Central" w/ Personalize Settings .......my clock was 6 hrs ahead.Hasn't been a problem in prior releases here.Just remembered, I did check numlock this time....I usually don't.

And Firewallstate didn't disappear this time either.....

Other than the clock issue things are looking good.

Howdy All,
In the last several versions of LUCI, Pburn fails to recognize a
cd-dvd present in the drive (SR0).
Unable to blank a disk.
Anyone else have this problem?
Puppy 5.1.1, Pburn 3.2.6 works fine!
Thanx.

Running 245 from a bootflash install, wired internet and sound are
working fine,resolution was correct too.
I downloaded and installed the full nvidia 260 driver in quickpet,
01micko, if I minimize the terminal that glxgears is running in I get
some *really* fast framerates.

# glxgears
45943 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9188.600 FPS
51155 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10231.000 FPS
51587 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10317.400 FPS
69822 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13964.400 FPS
87309 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17461.800 FPS
87323 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17464.600 FPS
87238 frames in 5.0 seconds = 17447.600 FPS
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 245

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Going to reboot now and create a save file.

After rebooting the network and sound are still good.

you can try this delta file

http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/m ... .iso.delta

Cheers

edit : fixed link

Luci-245 live pfix=ram on the main Linux box. Initial boot had working internet and the correct resolution (1440x900) but muted sound.
Did not check numlocks this time and no clock problem.

Installed SeaMonkey and updated to 2.0.11 and a Nvidia driver.


VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 245

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
4749 frames in 5.0 seconds
5382 frames in 5.0 seconds
5413 frames in 5.0 seconds
5356 frames in 5.0 seconds
5394 frames in 5.0 seconds
5383 frames in 5.0 seconds
5386 frames in 5.0 seconds
5366 frames in 5.0 seconds
5387 frames in 5.0 seconds
5357 frames in 5.0 seconds
6803 frames in 5.0 seconds
7362 frames in 5.0 seconds
7013 frames in 5.0 seconds
7476 frames in 5.0 seconds

-Computer
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (148MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.24
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 11 Dec 2010 08:10:59 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

Upgraded my Luci/Trinity install from 244 to 245.........only apparent problem is with the clock.........again.
Confirmed the time zone on initial boot, clock was hours off, and needed to reset date and time again to get things right.. Time zone was left alone at us central.

James C wrote: setting my time zone as "US Central" w/ Personalize Settings .......my clock was 6 hrs ahead.Hasn't been a problem in prior releases here. Just remembered, I did check numlock this time....I usually don't.

Seems UTC/Localtime issue.
Are you aware your PC hardware clock is UTC or Localtime?
If you are dual booting with Windows, it must be Localtime, i guess.
Run again the Personalize Settings to see the 'Use UTC Hardware Clock' is set or reset.

shinobar wrote:

James C wrote: setting my time zone as "US Central" w/ Personalize Settings .......my clock was 6 hrs ahead.Hasn't been a problem in prior releases here. Just remembered, I did check numlock this time....I usually don't.

Seems UTC/Localtime issue.
Are you aware your PC hardware clock is UTC or Localtime?
If you are dual booting with Windows, it must be Localtime, i guess.
Run again the Personalize Settings to see the 'Use UTC Hardware Clock' is set or reset.

The machine in question does have Windows 2000 installed.......... along with about 20 various Linux installs.

'Use UTC Hardware Clock' is unchecked...........looking at it now.

The other box, without the clock problem, is all Linux.

ok

*gnumeric doesn't have an icon in the menu, plus it's called with "%U" which don't work in puppy, the .desktop file needs fixing
*the network_tray is still the old version .. ttuuxxx new icons aren't there
*time was ok for me
*should we or shouldn't we have pidgin in the browser chooser? I am going to put it on the internet page in quickpet and shift Kompozer to the next page and replace Dia anyway.
* I wonder why the tray behaviour has changed? Seem to need to hold a right click to use the tray apps, eg Firewallstate, network_tray.. retrovol is ok. These were ok before about 240 I think.
*geany opens up with the geany config
*video wizard don't work so I have a get-around../usr/sbin/video_upgrade_wizard (I'll attach) Note, updated but was never downloaded
*I know KarlGodt tried to fix the jwm/gtk them issue but now it just fails, best to remove it, I'll attach an adjusted file without that button

Cheers

Minor stuff on 245:

No way to change the timezone. When you go to Desktop | Country Settings | Set Timezone, Puppy displays a "Usage for Xdialog" screen.

On first boot, if you add or move desktop icons, your changes will be lost. Once the savefile has been created, changes are retained.

playdayz wrote: So if anyone has suggestions about shaving some space, now's the time.

Is the Figaros password manager used by many?

ir

*gnumeric doesn't have an icon in the menu, plus it's called with "%U" which don't work in puppy, the .desktop file needs fixing
*the network_tray is still the old version .. ttuuxxx new icons aren't there
*time was ok for me
*should we or shouldn't we have pidgin in the browser chooser? I am going to put it on the internet page in quickpet and shift Kompozer to the next page and replace Dia anyway.
* I wonder why the tray behaviour has changed? Seem to need to hold a right click to use the tray apps, eg Firewallstate, network_tray.. retrovol is ok. These were ok before about 240 I think.
*geany opens up with the geany config
*video wizard don't work so I have a get-around..

Good, something for the morrow.
Where do you see the Video Upgrade Wizard?

01micko wrote: *gnumeric doesn't have an icon in the menu, plus it's called with "%U" which don't work in puppy, the .desktop file needs fixing
Cheers

The much smaller gnumeric packages I uploaded already comes with a proper .desktop file, One of the first things I always check, is the icon location and the exec path. These 2 items usually get messed up somehow.
I guess its the difference between using Ubuntu packages vs Custom puppy versions. I also compiled Gnumeric without Gconf and schema files since they are a waste of space and are large distro bloat. Something you'll always get with Ubuntu/Gnome compiled apps, and never seen on puppy 1-4, Wary/Quirky releases. If you need space compile apps without them. Just edit the devX to do it. typically edit 3 paths
/usr/include
/usr/lib .a .la
/usr/lib/pkgconfig
ttuuxxx

playdayz wrote:

*gnumeric doesn't have an icon in the menu, plus it's called with "%U" which don't work in puppy, the .desktop file needs fixing
*the network_tray is still the old version .. ttuuxxx new icons aren't there
*time was ok for me
*should we or shouldn't we have pidgin in the browser chooser? I am going to put it on the internet page in quickpet and shift Kompozer to the next page and replace Dia anyway.
* I wonder why the tray behaviour has changed? Seem to need to hold a right click to use the tray apps, eg Firewallstate, network_tray.. retrovol is ok. These were ok before about 240 I think.
*geany opens up with the geany config
*video wizard don't work so I have a get-around..

Good, something for the morrow.
Where do you see the Video Upgrade Wizard?

/usr/sbin/video_upgrade_wizard... oh you mean the button? see screeny

*should we or shouldn't we have pidgin in the browser chooser? I am going to put it on the internet page in quickpet and shift Kompozer to the next page and replace Dia anyway.

If you want to take it out of Browser Installer, that suits me. No use for overkill.

* I wonder why the tray behaviour has changed? Seem to need to hold a right click to use the tray apps, eg Firewallstate, network_tray.. retrovol is ok. These were ok before about 240 I think.

I thought it was only firewallstate, and tasmod knows about that. But I see what you mean, it is the network_tray also. I don't know. Could Woof have done it? I'll look but I can't think of a change that would have done it that I made.

..and my splash screen hack....

but I might just change it to open quickpet eh?

Cheers

[quote="playdayz"]Luci-245 Following the True Path of Puppy

shinobar's timezone fix
pcd 1.4-1
partview 2.1.1
browser-default 3.0
PupClockset 1.1
revert ntfs-3g --solves ntfs rox copy problem
gnumeric 1.10.12
new network_tray
abiword spell check on by default

Luci-245 ->
http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/luci-245.iso
b58d9d16351d43d6649beae535d1fb99 luci-245.iso

Delta luci-244 -> luci-245
http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/l ... .iso.delta
(I figured out why sometimes I make bad delta files--because sometimes I unthinkingly rebuild the previous iso; like last time the luci-244 I used was changed from the one that was posted. Stupid, huh?)

The devx for luci-245 is the same as the one for luci-244. So please rename the luci_devx_244.sfs to luci_devx_245.sfs

Luci_devx_244 ->
http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/luci_devx_244.sfs
1fb96c8f9fedea4d3267fb6dcce1b40a luci_devx_244.sfs

Luci-244
127MB ISO Loads Completely Into RAM on Computer with 256MB
Single SFS file - No Zdrive

Cups running on Mystery Browser
LupuNews and Help running on dillo (fasssssst)
Download Pidgin if You Want It

Thank you for the suggestions. We could still stand to lose a few hundred more megabytes.

For video freaks the i686 versions of the ffmpeg libraries will be available in PPM (not yet--the ones there now are the old ones for 5.1.1)

Why the Return? 01micko and playdayz agree that this seems to be the most stable form of Puppy. It is good to keep supporting 256MB ram computers and to do that the iso needs to be < 128MB. Otherwise Puppy either will not load completely and/or will not run at a usable speed (at least on a percentage of computers). This puts a kind of "natural" limit on at least one breed of puppy.

So what have we done with Lucid 5.2? We have upgraded, updated, and/or improved all of the main programs as well as many of the other programs in the menu: quickpet, gnome-mplayer, mplayer, sylpheed, mtpaint, gnumeric, abiword, geany, as well as system programs such as e2fsprogs. We have incorporated numerous improvements from the latest version of Woof. We have made sfs programs installable with a single click. We have added a very tidy firstrun wizard screen--also very stable and effective. We are still filling the PPM with great programs tested and configured for Lucid 5.2 including quite a few language packs.. We have refined operation throughout. And we have removed two programs that didn’t work very well.







Luci-243. The big news is the small, fast surprise. Who will find it first?

Also Quickpet4rc9, Browser-Installer 2.2, plus 4 patches found by Barry for Woof.


A Feature Freeze: Luci-242 Everything in the iso is an inter-related system and only Barry has any chance of knowing how any given change will echo through the system. So, no more, “Hey that’s a good idea. It can’t hurt anything.

I downloaded Lucid 244 yesterday,, and now.... 245 is released..... Sad

Well, yes, this is a time that is very important. Sometimes it has been over a week between development releases. We're close. Very close.

These are my reasons for not using the gnumeric and abiword prepared by ttuuxxx.

I did not use either the gnumeric or the abiword in luci-245. I count about 3MB of compressed savings, which I agree is significant. The thing is though that we have been testing this Abiword for a couple of months and it has been smooth. I know this was hard work. This close to release we would not fix something unless it was broken. Gnumeric 1.10.8 was broken, but the Ubuntu package of 1.10.12 may work out. That is just changing one package rather than changing 3 packages. IMO that makes the chance of a problem rippling through the system much less. Plus the one package is a Ubuntu package--and that is a good thing--because one reason we prefer Ubuntu packages is there is a presumption of compatibility with all the other Ubuntu binaries we have in the system. We are under the magic number of 128MB so it is not as crucial to save space.

This is a conservative approach I know--I *hope* it is a conservative approach because that is what is required of me at this stage. The motto is “Fix only what is broken, and fix it with the simplest possible change.