(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

01micko wrote:As for the zdrv, I think Barry is just putting in the big modem drivers in it for Wary, that way if you don't use a dial up modem you can delete the zdrv from a Wary frugal installation, well that's the theory.

On Luci 239 onwards, deleting the zdrive also knackers wired networking for certain and possibly also wireless.

01micko wrote:As for the zdrv, I think Barry is just putting in the big modem drivers in it for Wary, that way if you don't use a dial up modem you can delete the zdrv from a Wary frugal installation, well that's the theory.

You cannot remove zdrv but you can replace it with smaller one.
Puppy-431JP(Japanese edition) has large and small zdrv.

Luci-243. The big news is the small, fast surprise. Who will find it first?

In luci's case I think it may well be better not to build with zdrv

Why didn't you just say so? Oh. You did. Since we are now down to 132MB we would only need to lose just over 2MB to be able to do that, build without a zdrive. People in favor please suggest specific ways to lose those 2+MB.

On the other hand, I do not think we should automatically consider that a zdrive is less reliable than building the modules into the iso. We could we leave that open while we investigate luci-243?

My *impression* is that the way without a zdrive was more reliable, but two reports at least were due to removing or deleting the zdrive. In that sense we could say it is more vulnerable, but if that doesn't happen, is the zdrive method just as reliable?

On Luci 239 onwards, deleting the zdrive also knackers wired networking for certain and possibly also wireless.

Yes, the zdrive is not supposed to be deleted or removed. But the fact that it was tells us something.
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playdayz wrote:Luci-243. The big news is the small, fast surprise. Who will find it first?

Great!
BTW, is the md5sum right?
mine is:
76ba154c6d8303fe48f976772aed5657

EDIT: after several trial, got correct:
74fcc919f9d623b3ca9f8ad5b4365490

playdayz wrote:Luci-243. The big news is the small, fast surprise. Who will find it first?

30% downloaded already......

shinobar wrote:

playdayz wrote:Luci-243. The big news is the small, fast surprise. Who will find it first?

Great!
BTW, is the md5sum right?
mine is:
76ba154c6d8303fe48f976772aed5657

74fcc919f9d623b3ca9f8ad5b4365490 luci-243.iso
yes. I will download to test.
74fcc919f9d623b3ca9f8ad5b4365490
up and down the same.

playdayz wrote: Yes, the zdrive is not supposed to be deleted or removed. But the fact that it was tells us something.
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Guess it tells us that it's necessary to anticipate a certain degree of user error....

downloading...

then lets see if I can break it with my hardware

playdayz wrote:Luci-243. The big news is the small, fast surprise. Who will find it first?

What's the prize? Dillo.

Live pfix=ram on the main Linux box. Only problem,sound was muted on boot.Easy fix though.
Posting this with Dillo, much better than that cut-down Midori.
Installing stuff on a fresh frugal on the old P3,back in a bit.

What's the prize? Dillo.

James C is the winner.

I am becoming a dillo-phile, maybe because I lived in Austin Texas when it was home to the Armadillo World Headquarters

We found that dillo would work for LupuNews, for Cups, and for Help. Smaller than midori and faster. And less apt to be accidentally used as a main browser. Plus it's newer, this is the latest version from this past spring as I understand it. We're hoping that it will be more stable also. Win -win- win - win!

Running live on one box and the frugal on the old P3 and I've already lost Firewallstate on both, as soon as I tried to right click.

drivers in quickpet is broken .. patch shortly

Sorry!

______________________

*198 seconds later....

It's done!

Cheers

hmm.. dillo didn't work with cups.. server error (ff was ok)

Everyone who prints please test!

Cheers

Fresh frugal install of 243 on the old P3. Only thing, no internet at initial boot. A quick run through SNS took care of that though. Installed Xorg_High and SeaMonkey.


# glxgears
1465 frames in 5.0 seconds
1369 frames in 5.0 seconds
1477 frames in 5.0 seconds
1433 frames in 5.0 seconds
1487 frames in 5.0 seconds
3313 frames in 5.0 seconds
2964 frames in 5.0 seconds
3091 frames in 5.0 seconds
3104 frames in 5.0 seconds
3916 frames in 5.0 seconds
4104 frames in 5.0 seconds
3934 frames in 5.0 seconds

VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 243

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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01micko wrote:drivers in quickpet is broken .. patch shortly

Sorry!

______________________

*198 seconds later....

It's done!

Cheers

I downloaded the ati driver about a half hour or so before you posted this message, guess it was only partially broken.

Running live on one box and the frugal on the old P3 and I've already lost Firewallstate on both, as soon as I tried to right click.

Yes, That could be fixed couldn't it. If you right-click and hold you can get the menu, but right-click that should bring up the menu instead brings it up and chooses Quit which is at the bottom. I think that is what is happening.

hmm.. dillo didn't work with cups.. server error (ff was ok)

In adding a printer?

In adding a printer?

Yes, it came up with some server error just after I selected the printer (I use a special pet and my printer is at the top of the list)

Cheers