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edoc,

"If so, is there a PET to add "Builtin Package Remover" to Lucid 5.1, please?"

Remove-buildins-1.1 for quirky, seems to work fine for me in 5.1. I have not yet tried to remaster as I am still tweaking my system. Will report on remaster as soon as I try it. Good luck

Chris

No, same host computer booted to 5.1 will not allow automatic printer finding and sharing. Nobody has a firewall going including the router. All settings seem to be in order unless there's one I missed, as far as I know I need to set the server to share printers and the printer itself to be shared. The manual installation seems to work just fine although I haven't tried printing from Open Office just yet. It was a pain to set up, though, I can't imagine a newbie handling it, it was a stretch of my abilities and I've been using Linux in one form or another for 10 years. I must say it's much more user-friendly now, largely of course due to the efforts of Barry Kauler and the Puppy people.
I wonder if we can find some common thing that differentiates those systems that will automatically share printers Luci51 to Luci51 and those that won't? My host is a 5-year-old Dell P4, Ralink wireless LAN, and my remote is a new Toshiba Celeron-base with Realtek 8187SE with NDISwrapper driver. Could that be the problem? The Linux driver immediately freezes this system on first access. Router is a Belkin G wireless.
The other major question is "is it worth the trouble?" How many other people are having this problem? If I'm the only one I have it solved for myself. If someone else has similar trouble, pipe up--the squeaky wheel gets the grease!

If you discover that it is something unique to your system you could get a Netgear 3500L wireless router -- it will allow you to network a printer or a HDD and it is open source friendly.

kevin bowers wrote:I wonder if we can find some common thing that differentiates those systems that will automatically share printers Luci51 to Luci51 and those that won't?

Probably not.

But if you want to beat this episode to death, there is one more thing you can try. Install CUPS 1.3.11 in Lupu over top of its CUPS 1.4.3 as described here. That would determine if the problem is CUPS-related or Puppy-related.

As usual, you would need to do this off the Lupu Live CD using the "puppy pfix=ram" option so as not to damage your current install.

FWIW, this whole exercise serves to reinforce my personal prejudice against CUPS 1.4.

I just looked here and did not find it:
ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... es-quirky/

You are saying that when I do locate it I may load the PET and then run the remove-builtins app and that removing abiword will be complete and not harm my Lucid 5.1 Frugal install at all?

Other than maybe some default word processor link may be broken and I will need to change it to OpenOffice or Geany.

Or am I missing a step ... you referred to remastering ... is remove-builtins just one step to alter the distro and then one has to remaster *before* one is able to resume using Lucid 5.1 (or Quirky)?

edoc wrote:is remove-builtins just one step to alter the distro and then one has to remaster *before* one is able to resume using Lucid 5.1 (or Quirky)?

No. Remastering is just a way of removing the 'white space' left by removing original built in programs, plus combing the changes you have made. The advantage of remastering is that once done, you can start with a fresh 'save' file (compulsory), and then if you bork it, just delete your save file and you are back to your clean re-master again. Its a great way to perform radical changes, because you can always go back.

Builtin remover in Quirky: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 950#422950

Thanks!

I had printed the instructions the other day and forgot to print the link to the PET or to download the PET.

Sigh ... need more sleep ... or more coffee!

Wireless printing using Apple Airport Express works with Hp1020.

I used rcrsn51 great advice. Still valid http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 662#263662

Minolta magicolor 2200/2300/2430 DL,HP LaserJet 1018/1020/1022/P35,
HP LaserJet Pro P1102/P1102w/P1566/P1606dn > all these printers needs foo2xxx printer driver package because of firmware hotplugin.

foo2xxx_r220909-0.0 (zjs/xqx/slx/oak/hp/xxx) package (11MB): http://www.datafilehost.com/download-bf13c069.html

I havent tested latest hpijs package if it handles hotplugin though, I dont wanna play with CUPS. If it aint broken dont even think about fixing it
But above foo2xxx works fine with Lupu.

When I set my timezone to GMT+1 and hover on the clock applet in the tray the tip says GMT-1. If I choose GMT-1 the tip says GMT+1.Not sure whether this is only a cosmetic issue or if it can actually cause wrong time display, for example if the hw clock is set to UTC.

Workaround: instead of GMT+1 I choose Europe/Rome, which seems to be ok.

pemasu wrote:Minolta magicolor 2200/2300/2430 DL,HP LaserJet 1018/1020/1022/P35,HP LaserJet Pro P1102/P1102w/P1566/P1606dn > all these printers needs foo2xxx printer driver package because of firmware hotplugin. .

Patriot's foo2xxx package is still the best choice for these printers.

mdisaster2 wrote:When I set my timezone to GMT+1 and hover on the clock applet in the tray the tip says GMT-1. If I choose GMT-1 the tip says GMT+1.Not sure whether this is only a cosmetic issue or if it can actually cause wrong time display, for example if the hw clock is set to UTC.

Workaround: instead of GMT+1 I choose Europe/Rome, which seems to be ok.

If I'm remembering correctly, POSIX compliant systems (like Linux) represent time offsets in reverse (-5GMT is +5POSIX). Barry labeled them the way we expect to see them (offset from GMT), but the clock likely shows the POSIX offset. Nothing was actually wrong, just highly confusing. It's probably best to choose the timezone name, as you have done, to avoid that confusion.

Startmount isn't working for me in 510. Tried uninstalling and reinstall. It shows drives being probed, but no gui opens up after that.

SirDuncan wrote: If I'm remembering correctly, POSIX compliant systems (like Linux) represent time offsets in reverse (-5GMT is +5POSIX). Barry labeled them the way we expect to see them (offset from GMT), but the clock likely shows the POSIX offset. Nothing was actually wrong, just highly confusing. It's probably best to choose the timezone name, as you have done, to avoid that confusion.

Yes, that's the case. I tried with other offsets and the sign of the offset is always reversed on the clock tip, so it's definitely consistent. Sorry for the wrong report and thx for the explanation

rcrsn51 wrote:

pemasu wrote:Minolta magicolor 2200/2300/2430 DL,HP LaserJet 1018/1020/1022/P35,HP LaserJet Pro P1102/P1102w/P1566/P1606dn > all these printers needs foo2xxx printer driver package because of firmware hotplugin. .

Patriot's foo2xxx package is still the best choice for these printers.

I am using that package somewhat successfully with a HP Laserjet P1006.

I say somewhat because it handles text files but it won't print PDF files, it causes a blank page to come out and then generates an error in the Print Jobs area.

weffy wrote:Startmount isn't working for me in 510. Tried uninstalling and reinstall. It shows drives being probed, but no gui opens up after that.

Hmmmm... I can't reproduce that, works fine for me.

How many drives do you have and what filesystems?

Best way to let me know is by running probepart in a terminal.

Cheers

mdisaster2,

If you set your timezone as you have done it will follow the Summer Time settings and should alter your clock whenever there's a change.

If you set UTC it will not follow this.

I've always found it more convenient to be on correct 'local' time.

In fact when I wrote Psync I insisted on it for the servers to sync correctly and set your time correctly, else they will set your clock to the region you select.

01micko,

Here's results of probepart.

/dev/sda1|ext3|10233342
/dev/sda3|ext2|61432560
/dev/sda4|none|2
/dev/sda5|ext2|10233342
/dev/sda6|ext3|60018776
/dev/sda7|ext2|10281536

I probably have created the last one since installing my last OS, lupu-500.

Thanks, Jeff

Thanks weffy,

Did you always have that tiny partition with 'none'? I gather not formatted?

That could potentially bork Startmount, I'll look further into the issue when you respond.

Cheers

weffy :

01micko wrote :

Did you always have that tiny partition with 'none'? I gather not formatted?

That could potentially bork Startmount

Perhaps partition extended ?

Maybe look at what does fdisk -l ( start and end of blocks and cylinders...) ?

I have the same :

# probepart
/dev/sda1|ext3|26282276
/dev/sda2|swap|2972024
/dev/sda3|none|2
/dev/sda5|ext3|42813162
.............

# fdisk -l

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 1636 13141138+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 1637 1821 1486012+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3 1822 24792 184514527 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 1822 4486 21406581 83 Linux



my tiny...

Cheers