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Posted: Thu 13 Mar 2008, 23:04
by JustGreg
I have been trying to get the microphone to work. I did discover that alsamixer has two (2) microphones slide controls.

The alsamixer is a console application. One has to open a console window (rxvt) and then type the command "alsamixer" to get the mixer to be seen. One uses the arrow keys to select the input and raise the volume.

The first microphone, I think is the microphone jack on the side. The second is labeled front microphone. I think that is the actual internal microphone that is on the underside of the EeePC. So if you have the EeePC on something then there is possibility that the EeePC mircophone will not pickup everything clearly. I agreed that the bottom of the unit is not a good place for a microphone.

I can only saw I think on the controls because I have not been able to record anything with either soxgui or sound sweep. I do have a question on the two (soxgui or sound sweep): How does one select the source (CD, microphone, etc.) for the recording with either one of them? I have looked and can not find a control to do it. Thanks in advance for any help. If I have any success then I will post the information.

Posted: Fri 14 Mar 2008, 10:36
by smokey01
JustGreg wrote:I have been trying to get the microphone to work. I did discover that alsamixer has two (2) microphones slide controls.
Thanks for your reply JustGreg. I tried both microphone controls in alsamixer with the internal microphone and external. Still no luck.

The weird thing is the microphone works fine with Xandros but not with Pupeee.

I will keep looking and hope others offer suggestions too.

Thanks

Smokey

boot off hd

Posted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 01:28
by tqwe
if i am not posting in the right place please let me know,thank you. trying to install pupeee on epc. i installed it to sd card works great. formatted eeepc hd to ext2,installed puppy then grub. when i try to restart get grub error15 file not found. puppy works fine off the sd card but no boot from hd. if i mount hdc1 i can see all the 301 files there. thanks

Re: boot off hd

Posted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 01:43
by smokey01
tqwe wrote:if i am not posting in the right place please let me know,thank you. trying to install pupeee on epc. i installed it to sd card works great. formatted eeepc hd to ext2,installed puppy then grub. when i try to restart get grub error15 file not found. puppy works fine off the sd card but no boot from hd. if i mount hdc1 i can see all the 301 files there. thanks
Have a look at the articles in this topic.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=27166

Smokey

Posted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 14:27
by tqwe
smokey thanks did all the reading,it is easy to install to sd card and run puppy on the eee it works great like this.my problem is i formatted the hd on the eee hdc and installed puppy. everything seems to have gone well. except for error15 at boot if i try to start puppy on eee hdc,grub lists it i can boot to puppy on sd with grub at startup. i want to use puppy only on eee not the sd option not looking forward to reinstalling xandros this is my daughters eee she likes puppy not the other one

Posted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 15:06
by dvw86
tqwe wrote:smokey thanks did all the reading,it is easy to install to sd card and run puppy on the eee it works great like this.my problem is i formatted the hd on the eee hdc and installed puppy. everything seems to have gone well. except for error15 at boot if i try to start puppy on eee hdc,grub lists it i can boot to puppy on sd with grub at startup. i want to use puppy only on eee not the sd option not looking forward to reinstalling xandros this is my daughters eee she likes puppy not the other one
Is it a full install or a frugal install? What does your grub menu.lst file say? Another option (the one I use) is to keep the default Xandros and just add Pupeee to it. Than you can dual boot into either one.

Posted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 16:47
by tqwe
dvw86 it is a full install xndros is gone to big to slow,i will try to attach menu thank you# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Sat Mar 15 08:30:29 2008
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/hdc' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.hdc.27413'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.hdc.27413 of=/dev/hdc bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 30
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Other bootable partition config begins
title DOS (on /dev/sda1)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
# Other bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Linux (on /dev/hdc1)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc1 ro vga=normal
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/hdc1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0)

Posted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 21:35
by dvw86
I recommend a frugal install onto the internal drive. A frugal install will take a bit longer to boot, but it is MUCH easier to install, update, and fix if you ever mess it up. A frugal install will also run a bit faster once it is booted up though since it is all loaded into RAM. In my opinion a frugal install is more secure as well. For a frugal install boot up Pupeee from the SD card that you already have working. Use pmount and mount the internal drive. Open up the mounted drive in a Rox window and create a folder called pupeee in the folder called boot. In the new boot/pupeee folder place the initrd.gz and the vmlinuz files. Next place the pup_301-eee.sfs file in the boot folder. Here is what the grub menu.lst file would look like for a frugal install. If you don't want the five second delay at start up just comment out the line

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timeout=5
like this

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#timeout=5
I would leave it at first though just so you can see if the grub menu even comes up.

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# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Sat Mar 15 08:30:29 2008
#
# Start GRUB global section
#
# Boot automatically after 5 seconds.
timeout=5

title Pupeee
	root (0x80,0)
	kernel /boot/pupeee/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 
	initrd /boot/pupeee/initrd.gz

Posted: Sat 15 Mar 2008, 22:36
by smokey01
tqwe wrote:smokey thanks did all the reading,it is easy to install to sd card and run puppy on the eee it works great like this.my problem is i formatted the hd on the eee hdc and installed puppy.
tqwe,

After you formatted the drive did you make it bootable?

If not you may need to use Gparted to set the boot flag.

Menu>System>Gparted

Select partition>Manage Flags

Then tick the boot box.

Hope this helps

Posted: Sun 16 Mar 2008, 05:05
by Lobster
Image

I intend to use Pupeee as the basis for Linux Tmxxine Light
This is the first time we are tying Tmxxine to hardware.
My first job will be turning Pupeee into a portable shrine using YAP

Image
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=YapInfo

Light will be nothing more than a simple modification of Pupeee
If Dan decides to use Dingo as the basis of future Pupeees then it will
be a simple matter for me to offer Yap and any other minor tweaks.

Anyway just to inform you guys and encourage your efforts.
Still reading up on the Eeepc - have not got one yet . . .
http://tmxxine.com/wik/wikka.php?wakka=EeePc

:D

Posted: Sun 16 Mar 2008, 11:55
by smokey01
My sound under pupeee 3.01 and booted off a SD card is now working.

I have no idea what I did to make it work. I just kept fiddling and changing things. My actual configuration is absolutely the same as I begun.

I wish I knew what I did so I could post and help others with the same problem.

The Skype2 beta with video and sound works a treat.

Thanks to all that provided advice.

Pupeee+EeePC=Awesome

Looking forward to the arrival of my class 6 SD cards. Hopefully this will give the boot speed a bit of a boost.

boot

Posted: Sun 16 Mar 2008, 13:53
by tqwe
smokey yes thanks, dvw86 reformatted hdc, created folder boot,in boot folder created pupeee folder,in pupeee floder there are the 3 files initrd,pup301sfs,vmlinuz i noticed the grub folder is in the boot folder. i still get error15 ,still able to boot to puppy onsd and usb not hdc. i will pos new grub# GRUB configuration file '/boot/grub/menu.lst'.
# generated by 'grubconfig'. Sun Mar 16 07:39:56 2008
#
# The backup copy of the MBR for drive '/dev/hdc' is
# here '/boot/grub/mbr.hdc.3113'. You can restore it like this.
# dd if=/boot/grub/mbr.hdc.3113 of=/dev/hdc bs=512 count=1
#
# Start GRUB global section
#timeout 30
color light-gray/blue black/light-gray
# End GRUB global section
# Other bootable partition config begins
title DOS (on /dev/sda1)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1
# Other bootable partition config ends
# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Puppy
root (0x80,0)
kernel /boot/pupeee/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0
intitrd/boot/pupeee/initrd.gz
# Linux bootable partition config ends
title Install GRUB to floppy disk (on /dev/fd0)
pause Insert a formatted floppy disk and press enter.
root (hd0,0)
setup (fd0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title Install GRUB to Linux partition (on /dev/hdc1)
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0,0)
pause Press enter to continue.
title - For help press 'c', then type: 'help'
root (hd0)
title - For usage examples, type: 'cat /boot/grub/usage.txt'
root (hd0) ps i noticed that i spelt initrd wrong in grub i corrected this with same results i saw this when i saw my post, sorry i have been looking at the eee screen for two days now,

sorry

Posted: Sun 16 Mar 2008, 19:14
by tqwe
thank you for the edit i was on my way back to take care of it. sorry about the lame comment. i hope that no one was offended i do understand all the hard work that goes into the creating of all linux distros. i also appreaciate all the help and info from this site and the people that contribute to it, again sorry about that :oops:

Posted: Sun 16 Mar 2008, 21:17
by JustGreg
Smokey01, could you post your settings contained in alsamixer. You need to use rxvt console terminal window to run alsamixer. The "tab " key is to set the View to "All", once the alsamixer is up. You can use the arrow keys to move through the controls. Just note the value of each control and if it is active. Another way is to use "amixer" that will list the settings. You can use

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amixer > myset.txt
to produce the listing . You can post either the file or the contents of the file. This will help to determine how alsamixer needs to set up. Thanks in advance for the help.

Posted: Mon 17 Mar 2008, 02:26
by dvw86
I decided to release the next Pupeee (beta 4) even though I am not done with a lot of things on my list. The auto mounter and many of the Control Panel tools are not done, but there were enough changes to warrant an update. See the first post for the download link.

Skype is still installed but it is no longer on the desktop. I put it in the start menu instead.
Cleaned up the rest of the start menu a bit. Some of the .desktop files needed modified.
Added icons for the "Open With" menu.
Xmms has been updated to work with ACC files also known as MP4. It still will not work with Apples protected (DRM) ACC files though.
New default wallpaper. (Thanks to Lobster)
Audacity is installed.
Handbrake is installed.
Xplns is installed.
Puppy Control Panel is installed along with murgaLua. This changes a lot of things both now and in the future.
My Simple Calculator is installed.
sysmsg is installed.
Removed the current gftp server tool as this is now part of the control panel.
Removed the current JWM configuration tool from the start menu since it is now part of the control panel. (It is still in the iso since it is small, but it is not listed in the start menu)
Removed the firewall wizard from the start menu since it is now part of the control panel.
Removed the "Connect" icon from the desktop since it is now part of the control panel.
Removed the network wizard from the start menu since it is now part of the control panel.

Posted: Mon 17 Mar 2008, 07:42
by Lobster
I decided to release the next Pupeee (beta 4) even though I am not done with a lot of things on my list.
Release as often as you like. Some of luv to see and experience the results . . .
:)

The control panel is great. It is one of the most important innovations towards ease of use.
This control panel panel validates John Murgas use of Lua
DSL has already adopted MurgaLua - a very wise move IMO
see a pic of the more complete control panel here . . .
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/LuaProgramming

Audacity - works
- it is a long time since I could record in Puppy as a default.
without snap crackle and pop

woof woof
- do I feel a pawed cast coming on? - could be
expect me to be droning and ranting in MP3 or Ogg format very soon

:D

Posted: Mon 17 Mar 2008, 10:59
by smokey01
JustGreg wrote:Smokey01, could you post your settings contained in alsamixer. You need to use rxvt console terminal window to run alsamixer. The "tab " key is to set the View to "All", once the alsamixer is up. You can use the arrow keys to move through the controls. Just note the value of each control and if it is active. Another way is to use "amixer" that will list the settings. You can use

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amixer > myset.txt
to produce the listing . You can post either the file or the contents of the file. This will help to determine how alsamixer needs to set up. Thanks in advance for the help.
As requested.

Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
Capabilities: pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Mono:
Front Left: Playback [on]
Front Right: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'Front',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 64
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 64 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Front Right: Playback 64 [100%] [0.00dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'Front Mic',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'CD',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined
Playback channels: Mono
Capture channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [off] Capture [off]
Simple mixer control 'PC Speaker',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Mono:
Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [-34.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
Capabilities: cvolume cswitch
Capture channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Capture 0 - 31
Front Left: Capture 0 [0%] [-13.50dB] [off]
Front Right: Capture 0 [0%] [-13.50dB] [off]
Simple mixer control 'Input Source',0
Capabilities: enum
Items: 'Mic' 'Front Mic' 'Line' 'CD'
Item0: 'Mic'

Hope it helps.

Smokey

working now

Posted: Mon 17 Mar 2008, 11:41
by tqwe
first i would like to thank Barry for puppy. if not for him i would still be a frusrtated win user. i tried other distros,for me puppy :lol: is simply the best,it works period. thanks to dvw86 for a really cool pupeee that works great on the eee. thanks to all the others that have helped me here at this forum. now i can continue my quest to replace the win world with puppy. :lol:

Posted: Mon 17 Mar 2008, 12:56
by JustGreg
This should help. If I have success then I will post the alsamixer settings or asound.state file.

Posted: Mon 17 Mar 2008, 13:03
by MyPup
Beta 4 is great pupeee is really coming along well everything seems to be working for me at present. I kinda like the new control panel and background and glad to see that Skype is still there and yes it does work still. Oh course I added firefox from one of ttuuxxx's packages why because it just works great. thanks dvw86 and all who make puppy possible. If anyone would like a copy of my .conkyrc I have it posted at pastebin just copy the lower window of the pastbin text and paste it in leafpad and place in root and rename .conkyrc http://pastebin.com/f301fd0e4 I also added "ttuuxxx on ice" ttuuxxx's latest icewm pet package nice menu button match for the background. I had some issues with the virtual desktops in jwm so switched to icewm as i havent had any problems while switching desktops with ice.