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Hi

@ SFR and belham2

It looks like it requires something that is inside of the devx. (see pics below)

Hope this helps
CatDude
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P.S I always ride with the devx loaded

@mavrothal:
0. Tried 800a on a macbook pro retina (2015) and is a very Mac-friendly linux distribution!

That's a very nice compliment, coming from a Mac person

1. A couple of bugs
The OS is setting Xft.dpi to 168 to compensate for the high pixel density of the screen and this messes up the control panel. Specifically, the first row of the Desktop tab does not work! Is OK in other tabs as is the second row of the Desktop tab!!! Unfortunately the screen resolution applets are in the first row. This bug is not affected by the actual screen resolutions. ie happens in lower resolutions too.

I'll see if we can reproduce this and fix it.

2. BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script

I can certainly put the script inside. How does one activate the script?

3. Add the mbpfan daemon and is good to go.

mbpfan is built-in. All you need is to activate it. In fact, it should be activated automatically, but I have a bug in starting it up. It will be fixed on next release.


@p310don:
Same issues I have had with previous fatdogs - 5 minute + boot times.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... nitrd.html
Or if you boot from the original ISO, choose the last item - boot for slow BIOSes. As belham2 has pointed out, it makes boot time a lot more reasonable.

@belham2:
@SFR:
Yeah, the entire Add-ons Manager seems nonfunctional down here, too...

I cannot reproduce this. This is how I test
- sandbox.sh
- inside sandbox, I typed "rm -rf /home/spot/.mozilla")
- then inside sandbox I typed "seamonkey-spot".
- I can look for add ons, and in fact for testing I search for "ublock", I found "silent block", installed it, and it worked.
- I repeated this a couple of times and it works.

EDIT: as Catdude says - with devx loaded, all is good. I also always load devx so not aware of this problem until now.
EDIT: or nls.sfs. I think this is related to our cutdown version of libicu.
EDIT: It's definitely libicu. For a workaround, please install "libicu-full" using gslapt.

@belham2:
Was this edition of Seamonky compiled by the Fatdog-Team? The reason I ask is that there are "Add-Ons" already included with the Seamonkey that I did not put there and/or download.

Answer: Yes, we built it. Those add-ons are the ones we include by default.

@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR

@belham2:
include redshift

Not a bad idea. At 126K I think we can afford it. I built it but never use it - does come with a GUI or do we need to get another GUI?

@belham2:
a "respectable" screenshot shooter

It's already there. Read: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/keys.html especially the part about PrintScreen key

Hello Jamesbond and kirk
Just checking in to say thanks for this.

It's working properly on my Athlon II X2 240. No problems to report.

I have Vivaldi 2.1 running from an SFS of /opt/vivaldi that I made. I'm using it now.

Thanks again.

jamesbond wrote:@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR

Well, it's been included since 720 IIRC (/etc/xdg/Startup/firetray).
Control Panel -> Desktop -> Manage desktop startup programs -> System startup programs -> firetray.

jamesbond wrote:@belham2:
include redshift

Not a bad idea. At 126K I think we can afford it. I built it but never use it - does come with a GUI or do we need to get another GUI?

The one on the screenshot is redshiftgui, not redshift.
It requires IUP to build: https://sourceforge.net/projects/iup.
I built it at some point in 721 (even have a recipe with some fixes of mine, attached), but not using it anymore.
It's 451K compressed.
But I think I've seen, here on the forums, a GUI for redshift, the one we have in repo.

Greetings!

LateAdopter wrote:Hello Jamesbond and kirk
Just checking in to say thanks for this.

And SFR and step too You're most welcome.

SFR wrote:

jamesbond wrote:@SFR:
@belham2:
please include SFR's "firetray"

jamesbond stares at SFR

Well, it's been included since 720 IIRC (/etc/xdg/Startup/firetray).
Control Panel -> Desktop -> Manage desktop startup programs -> System startup programs -> firetray.

LOL
That's the problem with having too many features. Even I forgot that it's already there. That's one more item for the FAQ.

It's 451K compressed.

That's way too big. I'd check your attached redshift-gui script and see how it goes.

@belham2: as a workaround, you need to install libicu-full from the repo (using gslapt).

cheers!

jamesbond wrote: 2. BTW screen brightness keys work fine OOTB, as well as the keyboard backlight with the following little script

I can certainly put the script inside. How does one activate the script?

I guess you can check for the applesmc module ("lsmod | grep applesmc" or similar) and add it to the sven key_config file by
"[237:0]
type=cmd
enable=1
description=keyboard backlight down
command=/usr/local/bin/keyboard-backlight.sh down
comment=

[238:0]
type=cmd
enable=1
description=keyboard backlight up
command=/usr/local/bin/keyboard-backlight.sh up
comment=
"

[quote="jamesbond"] and [quote="sfr"] and all,

Ok, I am now vowing to shut myself up when it comes to testing new Fatdogs and go at least one day before posting here. In my defense, I was sort of excited to wake up and see 800 was released (and on npluug---came so fast I barely got a couple of sips of coffee before I was off & away on the 800 train)..

So, anyway, sorry, SFR, not sure how I missed the "firetray' toggle in ControlPanel-->Desktop--->
ManageDesktopSettings Thank you...... Also, thanks for the redshiftgui---yeah, my pic in my other post is of the "gui" one, which works good, but still.......I unloaded & removed it, downloaded yours, and it works too. I would rather stick to stuff you guys make instead of what I cobble together.

Jamesbond, thanks for tip/trick on the Seamonkey add-ons....got what I want and working now using your instructions. This one really had stumped me. Couldn't figure out how you guys got add-ons on there when I was having trouble doing it.


Overall, this is really a nice Fatdog release, especially since you all call it an "Alpha". I mean, if some heavy-handed person like me who's banging away on it, installing and removing stuff, re-installing, etc, etc hasn't crashed it yet over these past 3 hours.....well, it's pretty darn rock-stable.

But, alas, give me time, lol, I am a menace to myself. Got lots of chess and other games to go to load, so that I can make it like me other Fatdoggies. Then some Steam and Virtualbox maybe (if that's a possibility


Thank you all again.


P.S. Have installed several things using Gslapt (like LxTerminal and other things), and all has been good with no problems on anything.

mavrothal wrote:I guess you can check for the applesmc module

Done.

Can you please check, when you boot 800 on MBP (withoust savefile), did you get /etc/init.d/15-mbpfan enabled? If yes, is the mbpfan running?
I just checked my code again, mbpfan should work already.

Thanks!

SFR wrote: Does it hang if you boot FD directly from CD/USB instead of sda1?
What bootloader are you using and have you tried a different one?

No matter that is cd, usb or sda - happens the same thing. I'm using syslinux bootloader from fatdog installer.

Thank you for your interest in my problem in this vortex of excitement.

I would like to add that the problem occurs on the Internet, but I still don't know how to fix that.

jamesbond wrote:

mavrothal wrote:I guess you can check for the applesmc module

Done.

Can you please check, when you boot 800 on MBP (withoust savefile), did you get /etc/init.d/15-mbpfan enabled? If yes, is the mbpfan running?
I just checked my code again, mbpfan should work already.

Thanks!

You are right. It does work (I forgot that fd's ps has the standard behavior )

Regarding modules and drivers, how likely (1-10) is for the kernel to change till 800 final?

Another little thing. Booting a VM for first time from an ISO it still picked the fd64save from an old install at the root of the partition. No major issues (as the savefile was relatively clean) but if this is not recommended you might want to safeguard against it.

Just downloaded 800alpha, extracted from the iso the 2 files vmlinuz and initrd and over-write those of FD721 on hard drive.

Reboot and now posting from 800alpha. Glad to see that the extrasfs boot option still remains. I've not done any remaster since the introduction of extrasfs. I put my favrouite browsers (palemoon and min browser) and their config files in an sfs on hard drive and 800alpha loads it naturally.

will test other apps this week end.

Thank you guys for your endless and valuable efforts.

Acodin wrote:

SFR wrote:Does it hang if you boot FD directly from CD/USB instead of sda1?
What bootloader are you using and have you tried a different one?

No matter that is cd, usb or sda - happens the same thing. I'm using syslinux bootloader from fatdog installer.

Thank you for your interest in my problem in this vortex of excitement.

I would like to add that the problem occurs on the Internet, but I still don't know how to fix that.

Hmm, you could append loglevel=7 to your bootloader line, so if the kernel starts at all, we could at least see at which point it hangs.
I mean the 4G RAM scenario, where it hangs at boot.

Btw, are you adding RAM to an existing 2G module or replacing it with a single 4G module?
If the former, perhaps the modules are incompatibile with each other in some way..?

Greetings!

i'm adding 2gb to 2gb.

@edit: attachment

@edit2:

SFR wrote: If the former, perhaps the modules are incompatibile with each other in some way..?

I will chech that, but i now have only two 2gb dices. And yes this is possible, because i mix hynix with kingston in both cases (3gb and 4gb). After all, please check my bug report.

Please note that this problem is not new on the internet.

Acodin,

Please try adding this to the boot command line:

video=SVIDEO-1:d

And please report back.

EDIT:

@SFR: Ref: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93782. Scroll to the bottom. The fix was posted on 12/13 November (depending on your timezone). That's less than a week ago (https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/series/52378/).

Acodin has this: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller. The same VGA adapter which is problematic.

@up:

with 'loglevel=7' ?

Acodin wrote:@up:

with 'loglevel=7' ?

Yes. As I've just added, this seems to be a long running bug that was "worked-around-but-never-really-fixed" from kernel 4.4.x onwards. The proposed fix for the current mainline dates is less than a week's old; so expect the problem to continue for a while longer, unfortunately.

First, I tried to boot it on the 4gb ram, then I took out one ram dice and run bugreport.sh

Looks like the kernel is crashing. It happens after the intel graphics module i915 is loaded. Your bug report is from 721. If the same thing is happening in 800, that's pretty bad since 721 and 800 have different kernels, drivers, xorg, etc. Try booting with this on the kernel line:

loglevel=7 savefile=none nomodeset blacklist=i915

Hopefully that will get you to a desktop.

Is anyone else having problems with Seamonkey in Fatdog-800 and activating or even downloading "ADD-ONs"?

Just to expand on what has already been posted. This will be fixed in the next release. You can install libicu-full using Gslapt, or unzip the attached file and place it in /usr/share/icu/62.1/icudt62l/

Was this edition of Seamonky compiled by the Fatdog-Team? The reason I ask is that there are "Add-Ons" already included with the Seamonkey that I did not put there and/or download.

Yes, also note that Seamonkey's user agent string is no longer recognized by Google and probably others. This causes web pages to displayed incorrectly and is a problem in 721 now too. That's the reason for the inclusion of "User Agent Switcher".

Regarding modules and drivers, how likely (1-10) is for the kernel to change till 800 final?

There's 100% chance the kernel will be upgraded before final, probably whatever the latest 4.19.x is at the time.

I'm sorry but I'm in a hurry for the train and I will read it and answer in a few hours

I'm angry because I really want to fix it. Sorry again.

@edit:

kirk wrote: Looks like the kernel is crashing. It happens after the intel graphics module i915 is loaded. Your bug report is from 721. If the same thing is happening in 800, that's pretty bad since 721 and 800 have different kernels, drivers, xorg, etc. Try booting with this on the kernel line:

Read everything please. I wrote that the problem occurs on different kernels and both versions.

loglevel=7 savefile=none nomodeset blacklist=i915

doesn't help

Read everything please. I wrote that the problem occurs on different kernels and both versions.

Yes I understood that, I was trying to say that it's not a good sign that it's happening with different kernels since it seems to be a kernel bug.

I didn't see Jame's post about video=SVIDEO-1:d until after my previous post. I just looked at your last bug report, video=SVIDEO-1:d seems to have fixed the kernel crash. Is the problem the same?