(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 16:50**

Lobster wrote:Regarding Kompozer
If bushcrafter or anyone interested in reading about CSS
and/or providing a CSS and modified HTML (view source)
I will upload a new Luci 5.2 site here
http://tmxxine.com/luci/
That is one of my olde Puppy sites
and I mostly just updated links for 5.2 . . .

I am working on it. So far I have got it a lot smaller. The was a stupid

amount of junk

. It also failed validation

! Hope to finish soonish.

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 16:56**

abushcrafter wrote:
Lobster wrote:Regarding Kompozer
If bushcrafter or anyone interested in reading about CSS
and/or providing a CSS and modified HTML (view source)
I will upload a new Luci 5.2 site here
http://tmxxine.com/luci/
That is one of my olde Puppy sites
and I mostly just updated links for 5.2 . . .
I am working on it. So far I have got it a lot smaller. The was a stupid amount of junk . It also failed validation ! Hope to finish soonish.

LOL I've been working on Kompozer also, but the looks of it

http://wysifauthoring.informe.com/forum ... tml#p22716
you have to login to see the images
ttuuxxx

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 17:02**

Lobster wrote:
Evince by far blows away epdfview
Very nice
about twice the size but very useful
- does it display Impress presentations? Is that right?

Do you do databases too?

Its suppose to do the Impress presentations also, but I don't have one to test it with.
As for databases that might be a thing for 2.14X, I've spent about a week or 80+hrs on 5.2 and feel like its time to go back to 2.14X. I might spend a few more hours on it tomorrow and then the switch. But Its nice that they include the blue-moon icon theme, I feel at home with it

all its missing is the VW background, lol
ttuuxxx

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 17:13**

ttuuxxx wrote:
abushcrafter wrote:
Lobster wrote:Regarding Kompozer
If bushcrafter or anyone interested in reading about CSS
and/or providing a CSS and modified HTML (view source)
I will upload a new Luci 5.2 site here
http://tmxxine.com/luci/
That is one of my olde Puppy sites
and I mostly just updated links for 5.2 . . .
I am working on it. So far I have got it a lot smaller. The was a stupid amount of junk . It also failed validation ! Hope to finish soonish.
LOL I've been working on Kompozer also, but the looks of it
http://wysifauthoring.informe.com/forum ... tml#p22716
you have to login to see the images
ttuuxxx

Arrrrrr but I have been doing it by hand. Using it as a chance to try out/use Bluefish.

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 17:29**

abushcrafter wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
abushcrafter wrote:I am working on it. So far I have got it a lot smaller. The was a stupid amount of junk . It also failed validation ! Hope to finish soonish.
LOL I've been working on Kompozer also, but the looks of it
http://wysifauthoring.informe.com/forum ... tml#p22716
you have to login to see the images
ttuuxxx
Arrrrrr but I have been doing it by hand. Using it as a chance to try out/use Bluefish.

For the first year out of 3, we had to do it by hand for the diploma in web management that I went back to School for. I hated doing sites by hand, dreamweaver was great, actually at that time they weren't using Linux in the college for the front end of the websites, They were using dreamweaver and the server side was Linux, But I introduced them to puppy and Geany/Bluefish and we started using them for coding sites. But it couldn't be Official because MS has agreements with Aussie schools that they have to run windows, to get a better deal on prices. Anyways it opened a few eyes

ttuuxxx

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 18:57**

I compiled a new version of mtpaint 3.34.59 in lupq
and have been testing for a few hours and like it.

Download
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d2908bcb.html

compiled with

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./configure --bindir=/usr/bin  release intl

It now has ability to open damaged files and
another feature is pressing key E shows a palette of colors.
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There is a new version of pcd 1.3 however I have found that
there is a significant bug. When user launches pcd 1.3 without an
Audio CD inserted there is no list of tracks in window possible.

The solution is to have the Audio CD inserted at the time of pcd launch.

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Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 19:20**

Béèm wrote:
shinobar wrote:
Béèm wrote:Why does nl_BE@euro work in squeeze and fluppy and not in lucid?
Because they have ISO8859-15, but Luci/Lucu/LupQ, like Swiss, do not have it in /usr/share/X11/locale.
Thank you.
I had the misunderstanding that if there was one iso8859-XX they were all there.
Learned something again.

Well until I now discovered a very worrying issue about accented characters in file names.
Agreed not related to Lucid but more to puppy.
If I remember well, in 3.XX and I think also 4.XX the worst that happened was a warning message that the file name wasn't UTF compliant or something the like. I could work with those files and copy them without losing the name with accented characters.
Just by accident and to my horror I see that I have such files who's name are changed really, I verified in Windows as well.
In the panel it is seen that I already did a rename to the correct ones.

So I wonder now how save it is to use puppy in a National Language Environment.

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# ls -l |grep financ
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    10342 2003-02-04 12:49 aan eigenaars financiële situatie en jaar afsluiting 2002.sxw
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    11143 2003-02-04 10:44 aan IPI (00) financiële situatie en jaar afsluiting 2002.sxw
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    10272 2003-02-14 23:12 aan IPI (01) BEGT financiÃle situatie en jaar afsluiting 2002.sxw
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    10326 2008-12-12 20:13 aan IPI (01) financiÃle situatie en jaar afsluiting 2002.sxw
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    10415 2003-05-21 11:25 aan IPI (02) financiÃle situatie en jaar afsluiting 2002.sxw
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root    10031 2003-06-26 02:23 aan IPI (03) financiÃle situatie en jaar afsluiting 2002.sxw
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root     9708 2004-06-12 23:11 aan IPI (05) financiÃle situatie en jaar afsluiting 2002.sxw
#

Just one more thing.
These files are old and have not been used or opened. So the more worrying it is, that the name has changed.

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 19:31**

don570 wrote:I compiled a new version of mtpaint 3.34.59 in lupq
and have been testing for a few hours and like it.

Download
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d2908bcb.html

compiled with
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./configure --bindir=/usr/bin  release intl
It now has ability to open damaged files and
another feature is pressing key E shows a palette of colors.
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Accessing directly the download link doesn't work. The download only starts if you click from the download page.

What does this mean, please?

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 21:10**

Jim1911 wrote:Unusual problem for a full hd installation to run out of space. Apparently, there is some confusion as to available ram as opposed to available hd space.

The number the task tray shows is complex. Barry add more informations on the Freemem applet.

Check your PUPMODE:
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cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE
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Mounted speces:
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df -m
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Free memory and swap:
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free
```

They give a hint.

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 21:36**

ppm seems *alot* slower on 240 - on checking for missing libs stage it seems

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 21:52**

shinobar wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:Unusual problem for a full hd installation to run out of space. Apparently, there is some confusion as to available ram as opposed to available hd space.
The number the task tray shows is complex. Barry add more informations on the Freemem applet.
Check your PUPMODE:
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cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE
Mounted speces:
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df -m
Free memory and swap:
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free
They give a hint.

I've rebooted since I posted the problem which may affect the results below:

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# cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE
PUPMODE=2
ATADRIVES='sda sdb '
PUP_HOME='/'
# df -m
Filesystem           1M-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   24121      5696     17200  25% /
/dev/root                24121      5696     17200  25% /
shmfs                      755         0       755   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb3                79237     27211     48002  37% /mnt/sdb3
/dev/sdb1                79237     15271     59942  21% /mnt/sdb1
# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:      3105852      2876360       229492            0        23908
 Swap:      4607992            0      4607992
Total:      7713844      2876360      4837484
#

Results above are with sdb7 unmounted, below sdb7 is mounted.

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# cat /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE
PUPMODE=2
ATADRIVES='sda sdb '
PUP_HOME='/'
# df -m
Filesystem           1M-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
rootfs                   24121      6993     15903  31% /
/dev/root                24121      6993     15903  31% /
shmfs                      755         0       755   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sdb3                79237     27211     48002  37% /mnt/sdb3
/dev/sdb1                79237     15271     59942  21% /mnt/sdb1
/dev/sdb7                24121      6993     15903  31% /mnt/sdb7
# free
              total         used         free       shared      buffers
  Mem:      3105852      3016556        89296            0         8304
 Swap:      4607992            0      4607992
Total:      7713844      3016556      4697288
#

Does this tell you anything? Should I make sure that sdb7 is mounted when the full installation is in use?

Thanks,
Jim

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 21:52**

I added facebook chat plugin to Pidgin 2.7.7, together 2.7 mb.

Thanks to blind_alley of the missing lib tip.

http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/pidgin-a ... -2.7.7.pet

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 22:24**

Fresh manual frugal install of Luci-240 on the old P3 test box. On initial boot everything worked....internet,sound and screen resolution. Installed Xorg_High and SeaMonkey. Ran for about 30 minutes and rebooted.Sound muted.
Guess I'll try the zzz pet.

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 22:36**

Installed zzz pet. Sound still muted every reboot.

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 22:49**

James C wrote:Installed zzz pet. Sound still muted every reboot.

James C: Fortunately, with Luci-240 no rebooting is necessary

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 23:41**

Did a manual upgrade of Luci/Trinity 239 to 240............only problem..........you guessed it, muted sound on reboot.

Posted: **Tue 30 Nov 2010, 23:47**

Playdayz,
Recommend build the next Luci without 'zzz'. After all, it is experimental still, that is why it is in Quirky.

Build a normal system, and you will be likely to get more direct help from rerwin, regarding any sound or 3G modem issues.

My zzz package replaces a couple of rerwin's scripts, which is why he cannot be so helpful with debugging.

'zzz' should be considered at this stage as a fallback to try if you have insoluble problem with muted sound or 3G modem.

Posted: **Wed 01 Dec 2010, 00:08**

Yes Barry, I already have luci-241pre with the original scripts and will post it later tonight or tomorrow.

But I have noticed that in *both* luci-240 (zzz_scripts) and 241pre (original scripts) that the volume shown in retrovol is changed on reboot. I can set it to Master 50% and Front 50% and on reboot, in both luci's, Master becomes 100% and Front becomes 0%. I have never paid attention to this before, and the sound is not muted in either version but the levels are changed as I describe.

Back with pix. Well, after is on top, before rebooting and after. Is this what people have been seeing? I see it both with the original and the zzz_scdripts. Again I have never paid attention to this before so it could be normal....

Posted: **Wed 01 Dec 2010, 00:22**

I used Retrovol and had working sound. Then on reboot muted sound and....

Posted: **Wed 01 Dec 2010, 00:32**

Had sound while making last post,not on reboot.Before and after shots.

FWIW, no problems in Quirky 140 on the same test boxes.

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