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Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 09:44
by WhoDo
01micko wrote:I had a crash today in 4.2alpa4. I booted to ram, got settings and desktop how I wanted, browsed for an hour or so then left the laptop for about half an hour. Got back and was surprised to see the screen how I left it, normally would be blank in sleep mode.
Anyways, I had a complete lock up, no mouse no keys nothing. Had to do the dreaded hard power off :( . Couldn't save a thing. Has this been reported? Maybe just my hardware? IBM Thinkpad r31, 1066celeron, 512ram.
Alpha4 has acpid updated. That may be the root cause ... or not. Try running for a similar period after booting with noacpi parameter.

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 09:48
by ttuuxxx
01micko wrote:I had a crash today in 4.2alpa4. I booted to ram, got settings and desktop how I wanted, browsed for an hour or so then left the laptop for about half an hour. Got back and was surprised to see the screen how I left it, normally would be blank in sleep mode.
Anyways, I had a complete lock up, no mouse no keys nothing. Had to do the dreaded hard power off :( . Couldn't save a thing. Has this been reported? Maybe just my hardware? IBM Thinkpad r31, 1066celeron, 512ram.
Hey Mick

I've had puppy4.2A4 installed since the day it came out, and haven't shut my pc off yet, and had no crashes at all, the only main real issue I had was that missing tiny rox image file for the hard drive. Other than that its been pretty good :)
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 11:03
by nic2109
ttuuxxx wrote:
nic2109 wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Ps anyone tried the Cups package on page 1 I made?
and
@ttuuxxx

I will definitely give it a try, but I'm at work for the day and will be late home today so it may not be for another day and a half.

Where would you prefer feedback - here or in another thread?
Thanks Nick it will be a good start, I guess we can have the responses in thread, that way maybe others will see it and join along :)
If it gets over blown which it probably won't Then maybe a thread.
thanks once again
ttuuxxx
Basically my first couple of tries have been disappointing. The "look and feel" is better but for my HP network printer it's actually worse than the old version 1.1 setup. That was as friendly as a cornered ferret but at least I knew what to do to get it to work. :wink:

1. Discovery of the network printer is intermittant and seems to only work after you have tried manually. If you add a printer with a manual assignment to protocol 'socket://localhost:9100' then the 'Find network printer' option is present next time.
2. When it does discover the printer successfully it selects the socket protocol but omits the ':9100' suffix to the I/P address which it has picked up. Under the old 1.1 setup it never worked without the suffix so I'm assuming that it's still a necessity. Without it nothing prints.
3. Adding it manually with ':9100' doesn't work either. In fact I haven't got anything to print at all.
4. It only offers a choice of 2 models under HP. Where have all the others gone?

In summary then: not really any good for me. :(

If there's more trouble-shooting I can do then please let me know.

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 11:05
by aragon
WhoDo wrote:
aragon wrote:did you get those too?
Yep. I'm trying to acknowledge every contributory post, question and bug fix but there are so many contributions happening now that sometimes I just have to grab what's on offer and keep going without stopping to say thanks. So, if I've missed the opportunity somewhere, "Thanks" aragon. :wink:
thanks accepted, but don't say it again whodo :wink: otherwise we all have to thank each other because we are all doing our best.

and don't forget: we have to thank you. you have to cope whith what you're doing yourself AND what we're all doing...

so enough snuggling
aragon

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 11:20
by ttuuxxx
aragon wrote:
WhoDo wrote:
aragon wrote:did you get those too?
Yep. I'm trying to acknowledge every contributory post, question and bug fix but there are so many contributions happening now that sometimes I just have to grab what's on offer and keep going without stopping to say thanks. So, if I've missed the opportunity somewhere, "Thanks" aragon. :wink:
thanks accepted, but don't say it again whodo :wink: otherwise we all have to thank each other because we are all doing our best.

and don't forget: we have to thank you. you have to cope whith what you're doing yourself AND what we're all doing...

so enough snuggling
aragon
hey can I get on the group hugs thing too :wink:
but really Its funny how distracted you get sometimes, Like I start working on cups and I do a search cups related and before you know it I'm compiling cd drivers and media players and then like an hour later I'm compiling a old version of VLC , and I was Looking for Cups info, LOL LOL LOL. I need to stay focused.
ttuuxxx
LOL

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 12:16
by ttuuxxx
nic2109 wrote:.
Hey Nic Well I had a closer look and it looks like Mr WhoDo removed the foofilters also, hmmmm I did ask him to remove Cups But the whole enchilada, I guess I have my work cut out for me, Looks like I have to compile Ghostscript also, no wonder why the printing wasn't working right, cups connects to the http fine, so that a step, Won't be long until I have something.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 13:24
by aragon
ttuuxxx wrote:
aragon wrote:
WhoDo wrote: Yep. I'm trying to acknowledge every contributory post, question and bug fix but there are so many contributions happening now that sometimes I just have to grab what's on offer and keep going without stopping to say thanks. So, if I've missed the opportunity somewhere, "Thanks" aragon. :wink:
thanks accepted, but don't say it again whodo :wink: otherwise we all have to thank each other because we are all doing our best.

and don't forget: we have to thank you. you have to cope whith what you're doing yourself AND what we're all doing...

so enough snuggling
aragon
hey can I get on the group hugs thing too :wink:
but really Its funny how distracted you get sometimes, Like I start working on cups and I do a search cups related and before you know it I'm compiling cd drivers and media players and then like an hour later I'm compiling a old version of VLC , and I was Looking for Cups info, LOL LOL LOL. I need to stay focused.
ttuuxxx
LOL
hey ttuuxxx,

this one is especially for you:

Thank You!!!

aragon

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 13:52
by Flash
Ttuuxxx, thanks for the .pet. It worked a treat. One click and the problem's fixed. :)

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 14:20
by ttuuxxx
Flash wrote:Ttuuxxx, thanks for the .pet. It worked a treat. One click and the problem's fixed. :)
your welcome its just a hidden setting file in root :) but yes sometimes its just nice and easy. the file is /root/.Xdefaults <----hidden, you can right click on it and open it as text and change it to any colour you want,
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 15:30
by ttuuxxx
Ghostscript is one of those difficult applications to compile, well it compiles perfect, but also makes a 11MB bin file, what Barry did in the past is to make a so file by typing this
ln -s src/unix-gcc.mak makefile
make so

But there is a note about some gcc models or systems breaking the so file, well guess what? ours did, So it looks like either we blow the size of Ghostscript, to like 7MBpet, which I don't think we'll be doing :wink: Or I'll mix Barrys older bin+1 lib with the rest of the newer version and see where that takes us.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 16:05
by ttuuxxx
@@@CUPS@@@
Ok if you download the cups version from the start of this thread you don't have to do it again, Yet.
What I did was compile and stripped the Foofilters and Ghostscript packages, I reused Barry's bin and lib and saved about 5MB compressed. I need testers to try all 3 together. The GhostScript will be reduced further by removing the fonts, Like Barry has in the past, saves another 1.5MB. But he did mention he has issues, so I figured lets see if it works before taking a gamble.

(This version was compiled when 4.2A4 was released and no updates yet)
http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 386-v1.pet

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... .0.0-1.pet

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... 8.63-1.pet

Hope it works guys, good luck.
ttuuxxx

Hey WhoDo anything else you might of removed that you forgot to tell me ???

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 17:17
by ttuuxxx
Ok guys I installed all 3 packages plus the gutenprint package I made up in 4.2A3 and added the cups experimental driver plugin for usbs found on Patriots Cups page, and it worked :))))))) for the first time on Puppy this Cannon printer works, yahoooooooo. Just one thing I noticed WhoDo once again removed a plugin for Abiword and well We just need the main plugins back and we should be fine. Hope it works for others. Below is the USB experimental driver that worked for me.
I made it into a pet.
ttuuxxx


Here's the gutenprint (don't worry about the missing libs, its just for a gimp plugin, If you have gimp 2.0+ installed you can print directly)

http://www.puppylinux.asia/tpp/ttuuxxx/ ... no-ppd.pet

PS I printed this thread in colour about 4 pages worth, :) :) :)

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 17:29
by ttuuxxx
Network Printing also works, I set the printer as a server and went to my other pc on the LAN and selected file print, and I printed the google homepage. Now thats the first time I've printed over my home network which is cat5 with a adsl2+modem 4 port router. Since xp like 4 yrs ago. really cool, too bad my wife uses xp, hmmmmm.
anyways glad its working. tomorrow I'll try to reduce the size.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 18:07
by zigbert
How to hide the new side-trays.
I have added a close-button at bottom of both side-trays. I could have uploaded a new DeepThought-jwm-tray package, but WhoDo needs to add it by hand. If we don't see this in Puppy 4.2, I will update the DeepThought-jwm-tray package for the others.

Image

- I have moved the tray-code (only for the 2 side trays) from /root/.jwmrc-tray to separate rc files. /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_icon look like this:

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<JWM>
	<Tray autohide="true" border="0" y="80" halign="left" width="17" layer="0" layout="vertical">
		<TrayButton icon="add_icon.png">exec:icon2desk</TrayButton>
		<TrayButton popup="Remove this tray" icon="hide_tray.png">exec:echo " " > /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_icon; jwm -restart</TrayButton>
	</Tray>
</JWM>
and this is /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_widget:

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<JWM>
	<Tray autohide="true" border="0" y="80" halign="right" width="17" layer="0" layout="vertical">
		<TrayButton icon="add_widget.png">exec:pwidgets</TrayButton>
		<TrayButton popup="Remove this tray" icon="hide_tray.png">exec:echo " " > /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_widget; jwm -restart</TrayButton>
	</Tray>
</JWM>
When user press the hide-tray button, the rc file is blanked. Because of this, I suggest you to backup these 2 files in
/root/.jwmrc-tray-add_icon.bak
/root/.jwmrc-tray-add_widget.bak

Now the trays can be returned with the commands:
cp -f /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_icon.bak /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_icon
cp -f /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_widget.bak /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_widget
This can of course be placed in the jwmconfig gui

Now we need to include all 4 trays in /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc

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<Include>/root/.jwmrc-tray</Include>
<Include>/root/.jwmrc-tray-top</Include>
<Include>/root/.jwmrc-tray-add_widget</Include>
<Include>/root/.jwmrc-tray-add_icon</Include>
The only thing you miss now is the close-icon. Place it in /usr/local/lib/X11/pixmaps/

cups

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 19:45
by Minnesota
"Ok guys I installed all 3 packages plus the gutenprint package I made up in 4.2A3 and added the cups experimental driver plugin for usbs found on Patriots Cups page, and it worked Smile)))))) for the first time on Puppy this Cannon printer works, yahoooooooo. Just one thing I noticed WhoDo once again removed a plugin for Abiword and well We just need the main plugins back and we should be fine. Hope it works for others. Below is the USB experimental driver that worked for me.
I made it into a pet.
ttuuxxx
"

Same here sir: Booted Alpha 4, ran all five pets, recognized the usb printer, found my canon ip4300. Ran print test.. bit slow.. took most of three or so minutes, but, printed in high quality.

Now for making it easy to use :))). Progress in a forward direction!!

Greg

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 20:54
by zigbert
Warren
I have updated the Ptray package. Version 0.4 also handles the show/hide of left/right-tray. The package contains fixmenus and globicons. These should be included by hand to their original packages.

If you want the new close-button on top of tray instead of bottom, it is just to switch those lines in /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_icon(.bak) and /root/.jwmrc-tray-add_widget(.bak)


Sigmund

Re: mounting a vfat partition on a usb connected HDD.

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 21:24
by Béèm
WhoDo wrote:
Béèm wrote:With alpha 4.20, I can address all partitions except the vfat one.
A very annoying fact. (In fact I realize now, that the same problem was there already from alpha one on)
No problems with 4.1.2

Is there hope for a solution?
There is always "hope" Béèm. I'll look into it.
Thanks WhoDo.
I knew you would say that. :wink:
There is no hurry, as it's still alpha time.
Altho I'll be abroad for the next 5 weeks, I'll look at this interesting thread.

Posted: Fri 13 Feb 2009, 22:34
by nic2109
ttuuxxx wrote:Network Printing also works, I set the printer as a server and went to my other pc on the LAN and selected file print, and I printed the google homepage. Now thats the first time I've printed over my home network which is cat5 with a adsl2+modem 4 port router. Since xp like 4 yrs ago. really cool, too bad my wife uses xp, hmmmmm.
anyways glad its working. tomorrow I'll try to reduce the size.
ttuuxxx
Well it's now a lot better for me too! My experience is this :-

1. My (network attached) printer was discovered straight away. :)
2. Selecting the suggested protocol of socket://192.168.0.11 didn't work with the closest included driver. :(
3. Selecting the suggested protocol did work with a specific ppd file downloaded from linuxprinting.org. :)
4. Manually selecting socket://192.168.0.11:9100 didn't work with the closest included driver, but did work with the specific downloaded .ppd file. :)

Conclusion: as long as the specific ppd file is used the CUPS setup now works. :D

In case it is relevant the printer is an HP Photosmart 2575. The closest included driver is HP PhotoSmart 2700 Foomatic, and the one that works is HP-PhotoSmart_2570-hpijs.ppd.

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 01:11
by Jim1911
ttuuxxx ,

Installed your new printer .pets, unfortunately they didn't work with my HP Photosmart C5280. It doesn't provide an option for usb printers.

Thanks for working this CUPS problem,
Jim

Posted: Sat 14 Feb 2009, 02:06
by ttuuxxx
Jim1911 wrote:ttuuxxx ,

Installed your new printer .pets, unfortunately they didn't work with my HP Photosmart C5280. It doesn't provide an option for usb printers.

Thanks for working this CUPS problem,
Jim
Hi jim did you try the usb plugin ?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=15011
ttuuxxx