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shinobar wrote:

Béèm wrote:Why does nl_BE@euro work in squeeze and fluppy and not in lucid?

Because they have ISO8859-15, but Luci/Lucu/LupQ, like Swiss, do not have it in /usr/share/X11/locale.

Thank you.
I had the misunderstanding that if there was one iso8859-XX they were all there.
Learned something again.

Good news is that Luci-240 boot each time so something has changed that allow it to boot again and again and again.

Good news nooby. Yippee!

Barry has discussed luci-240 in his blog today.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02004
So please post if you have either improvements in internet connection and sound being properly configured and persistent, or otherwise. And we will do a comparison in a couple of days. Thanks.
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Click the clock for DaveS - Done
Viewnior for nooby - Done

I have sound problems - muted after every reboot - on luci-240 on HP550 laptop.....never before

Thinkpad T43 luci 240
Sound not working on boot, will work after alsa setup not persistant
Pwidgets not working

Yes I'm seeing the same here regarding sound muted at each boot.
On a plus note,I'm sure the sound quality has improved in 240.

240. Changing icon set in JWM works as expected except those displayed in Rox. which dont change until a re-boot. Which is odd.

Great work, it's looking good, fast, stable and just about everything works on a frugal installation of luci-240.

• These extra applications have been installed:
  === /initrd/tmp/EXTRASFSS ===
  amarok-1.4-lucid.sfs
  Bibletime_lucid-2.7.2a.sfs
  java_jre-6u22-Lucid-sfs4.sfs
  LibreOffice_3.3.0_beta2a_sfs4.sfs
  === User Installed Pkgs (PPM) ===
  Package Description
  Lucid511_nvidia-260.19.12-k2.6.33.2 Configure NVIDIA X Server Settings
  gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-uj Play many different games
  libclucene0ldbl_0.9.21b-2 library for full-featured text search engine (runtime)
  libdbus-1-3_1.2.16 simple interprocess messaging system
  libdbus-glib-1-2_0.84-1 simple interprocess messaging system (GLib-based shared library)
  libgtkhtml3.14-19_3.29.6.is.3.28.3 HTML rendering/editing library - runtime files
  libgtkhtml-editor0_3.29.6.is.3.28.3 HTML rendering/editing library - editor widget
  libgtkhtml-editor-common_3.29.6.is.3.28.3 HTML rendering/editing library - editor widget data
  libicu42_4.2.1-3 International Components for Unicode
  lynx_2.8.8dev.2-1 Text-mode WWW Browser (transitional package)
  lynx-cur_2.8.8dev.2-1 Text-mode WWW Browser with NLS support (development version)
  xulrunner-1.9.2_1.9.2.3+nobinonly XUL + XPCOM application runner
  libsword8_1.6.1+dfsg-1 API/library for bible software
  xiphos-data_3.1.3-1 data files for Xiphos Bible study software
  xiphos_3.1.3-1 environment for Bible reading, study, and research
  fbreader-0.12.8 FBReader E-book reader
  liblinebreak-1.2
  Acrobat_Reader-9.3.3-Lucid Adobe Acrobat Reader PDF application
  bluefish-2.0.2 Bluefish text editor
  edit_sfs-2.1 Edit .sfs files
  Firefox-4.0b7-Lucid Firefox web browser
  hplip-3.9.12-scan HP Scanner Drivers
  LHP_sys_info-0.3 Lighthouse System Information & Video Report
  Pet_Maker-1.7-3-430 Pet Maker Plus
  pwidgets-2.3.1 Pwidgets tiny desktop apps
  snap2-4.17 snap2 snapshot backup now!
  sunbird_1.0b1-1.0b1 Sunbird personal organizer
  Wbar_with_setup-1.3.3-Lucid Wbar Setup -adjust wbar settings
  Startmount-0.5.3 Startmount Mount drives and programs at start
  PupApps-1.1 PupApps launcher
  PupClockset-1.0 PupClockset utility
  PupControl-1.1 PupControl panel
  PupShutdown-1.4 PupShutdown manager
  PupSnap-1.1 PupSnap screen capture
  scrot_0.8-13 scrot CLI screen capture
  thunderbird-3.1 e-mail client

Pwidgets is the only application that doesn't work as it should. The opening defaults work, but many of the extra widgets will not run at all. This has been true for all luci's. Amarok isn't giving the error that I reported for 239.

Pictureviewer has some nice features, such as being able to set the wallpaper, however IMO, Veiwnior that was in 239 is a superior viewer since you are able to scroll through your images which is an important feature for the default viewer.

Cheers,
Jim

Jim1911, I love that wallpaper.

Care to share? please

Ok, a technical jargon post

I notice in ~/.packages/DISTRO_PKS_SPECS that Barry's zzz_scripts_simple_bk-201011.pet should be installed indicated by the entry yes|zzz_scripts_simple_bk||exe. Now, I downloaded Barry's latest debugged version and it seems it is not installed on comparison of the scripts. I was going to edit the line 45 bug that he mentioned on his blog in /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe. It seems the zzz package is not installed

Now, I know that there have been in place custom templates for luci/lupu for quite some time but I was astonished when I opened the /etc/rc.d/sysinit script and saw that the last update was #100814 (14 August, 2010)

Since then there have been numerous updates. Many of these may improve or break luci/lupu but we don't know. Only the last entry has anything to do with Barry's new 'zzz' package. (note the entry on #100703 load fbcon module: needed by some xorg drivers when exit to console (ex: nouveau). not listed above. This may or may not have repercussions with our entry in /etc/rc.d/rc.local)



[investigation continues...]

Sound not working on boot, will work after alsa setup not persistant

Oh boy - my sound is persistent (once set up - did not autoinstall)

I installed Kompozer under JWM
no icon and it appeared in 3 places on the menu
Network, Document. and utility
if every program does that we will have too much clutter . . .
'fixmenus' from console makes no difference . . . seems to only be writing to openbox wm . . .

Puppy Linux
Dog trials in progress

Pnethood on Luci-240 does not work:

Mtpaint on Luci-240 is without NLS.
The NLS verson from don is available here.
The NLS works from the desktop icon 'paint'.
But it doesn't NLS from menu just after the installation, as i previousely reported.
After restarting X, NLS works.

Luci-240
Sounds OK form the first run.
Gnome-mpayer shows sound and video with no problem including full screen with the 'nv' driver on Nvidia 8800GTX.

Tested Gnome-mpayer on jwm:
Gnome-mpayer can show full screen, but strange behavior. Needs after several click.
Replaced /usr/bin/jwm with te one of LupQ-511. No difference with the strange behavior.

EDIT: may not be strange. Needed 3 times click on the fullscreen icon on the gnome-mplayer. Short-cut key 'f' works with one press.

I don't know if this is significant but I noticed that
the developer of mtpaint has been making changes.
The newest version is 3.34.59
https://github.com/wjaguar/mtPaint

Try compiling it with ___________________________________________________

No

playdayz wrote:No

Yes.. I saw the post... did it break timezone for you too?

I think it's deeper rooted than just the zzz pet.

I'm looking in insidious right now for clues.. zzz works fine in this version.

Cheers

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/zzz_s ... 011_L3.pet
If you are using luci-240, please download this pet, install, and reboot.

This is a correction by Barry plus some revisions for Lucid.

01micko, With the right pet--the one that is now posted above, timezone seems OK to me in limited testing.

Tested Gnome-mpayer on jwm:
Gnome-mpayer can show full screen, but strange behavior. Needs after several click.
Replaced /usr/bin/jwm with te one of LupQ-511. No difference with the strange behavior.

EDIT: may not be strange. Needed 3 times click on the fullscreen icon on the gnome-mplayer. Short-cut key 'f' works with one press.

I never thought to click it 3 times But that is one reason Openbox is default.

Samba-client was upgraded--I bet it needs a symlink. I think I can get that from previous version.

ok, working but still sound mute on reboot (I was getting that in 240)

What's happening is that retrovol is not remembering any of my settings.. it may be independent of zzz.

Funny though, genie wasn't either but now it is, so something is fixed.

Cheers