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Re: Tahrpup 6.0.5

Posted: Sun 05 Mar 2017, 21:42
by bigpup
TIW wrote:Hi.
I would like to know, how can those Osmo-pop-up- day- notes be disabled ?
No, better yet, how can they be remove from Tahrpup ?
Osmo shows already, what needs to be done on a given day. I don’t need a second reminder .
Thank you for your help.
Have you tried the "hide" options in Preferences->General?

Posted: Sun 05 Mar 2017, 21:48
by bigpup
666philb,

Wonder why the download page on "puppylinux.com" does not show Tahrpup 6.0.6?

Wonder why "DistroWatch" does not show any of the updated versions of Tahrpup?
It still shows Tahrpup 6.0

Posted: Sun 05 Mar 2017, 22:32
by bigpup
Quickpet->Useful pets

Tempicon has been replaced by a newer program by 01micko.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=98299
He provides a Tahr pet package for the program.

Do you need to update Quickpet?

Posted: Tue 07 Mar 2017, 18:23
by prehistoric
@bigpup

Thanks for the reminder.

I can report that 01micko's version 0.63 works on a problematic machine where other tray temp apps failed. Tested on both Tahr64 6.0.6 and Tahr(32) 6.0.6.

Other news, I still have not packaged my working nvidia 304.134 driver for this old machine as a 64-bit pet. A 32-bit version is out there. Building from the nvidia .run file now works, now that I know what is required, but the changes to the 64-bit system are not as neat as the automatic pet builder expects.

Anyone who has a real need for this to support old equipment should send me a PM, otherwise I don't know how long it will take me to get back to the problem.

How to update from earlier versions?

Posted: Tue 07 Mar 2017, 22:45
by DAC324
Hello all,

As I was not able to find information on that topic, I herewith kindly ask you for assistance.

How can I upgrade Puppy Linux tahrpup from a previously installed earlier version to the current one?
I am just looking for an approach like in Debian or Ubuntu where you can accomplish the upgrade via

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apt-get dist-upgrade
without losing the current configuration settings.
Is there a similar way in Puppy Linux or do I have to re-install the latest version from scratch, having to re-configure everything again from the beginning?

Thank you very much for your help in advance and kind regards,

DAC324

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Posted: Wed 08 Mar 2017, 01:25
by mikeslr
Hi DAC324,

I'm not sure this is the information you're looking for, or if its too late to use it. I take it that you've recently upgraded from Tahrpup 6.0.5 to Tahrpup 6.0.6. and that both were, or are, frugal installs.

No. Puppy doesn't have a simple way like Ubuntu. Or has a simpler way, but different.

All the changes you've made to Tahrpup's condition since you first booted into it exist in your SaveFile/Folder.

This is how I do it.

Regardless of what Puppy I'm running, I never keep data files --files created by Worprocessors, graphic applications, etc. -- in /root/my-documents. I open one rox-filer window to /root and a second window to /mnt/home. Left-Press hold, then drag my-documents from /root to /mnt/home, select Move. Left-press hold, then drag my-documents from /mnt/home, select Link(relative). /mnt/home is not within "Puppy Space". If anything goes wrong, I can rebuild (or change) Puppies. If you loose documents, they're gone.

If anything goes wrong, I want to be able to install into my new system the applications I had in my old. So I open Puppy Package Manager and Click "Uninstall" and maneuver its window so that every application appears on the screen. Then I Menu>Setup>SFS-Load so the loaded SFSes also appear on the screen. Then I take a screen-shot and save it outside 'Puppy Space".

Running a Frugal install, all the changes you made are preserved in your Save File or Folder. It's on /mnt/home and will have the name tahrsave-xxx, where xxx is any additional you gave it when you created it.

What I actually did was to edit grub4dos's menu.lst. Initially menu.lst referred to the folder named "tahr" in which my original version of tahrpup was located. I unpacked tahrpup-6.0.6 into a folder named "tahr-n". I edited menu.lst to now refer to tahr-n. I then copied tahrsave-xxx from the tahr folder to the tahr-n folder. The new version of tahr used the SaveFile/Folder. IIRC, there were a couple of things I had to adjust. If everything went well, I could then delete my old tahr folder [and, optionally, rename tahr-n folder and menu.lst's reference to it].

[Alternative method: You can always get tahrpup 6.0.5's necessary files by mounting its ISO. So you could also just copy tahrsave-xxx to a folder 2 layers deep, e.g, into Top-of-a-partition/tahr/protect. Tahrpup won't offer to use that SaveFile/Folder. Except for the SaveFile/Folder, delete the other files in "tahr" and unpack the new tahr iso into the tahr folder].

But I found that openshot wasn't working. It worked under Tahr 6.0.5. Not sure what I did or the change did. I couldn't get its python component to function. Tried deleting and re-installing. Nada. As I also have xenialpup my upgrade of tarhpup wasn't essential. So I deleted the tahr-n folder and changed menu.lst back.

In general, it may be possible to use an "old" SaveFile/Folder in a new version of the same Puppy unless its creator tells you otherwise. Always read the release notes. And take note of the version numbers 6.0.6 is an upgrade of 6.0.5. It is substantially different from tahrpup 5.8.x. The chances of a successful use are slim. You can still try, since you now have a safe fall back, or the ability to rebuild a SaveFile/Folder with the applications you previously used.

While reading the release notes, see if any application you installed was made part of the "upgrade". After you've copied your backup SaveFile/Folder, and before you try to use it, uninstall any application the creator has included.

mikesLr

Posted: Wed 08 Mar 2017, 06:46
by bigpup
How can I upgrade Puppy Linux tahrpup from a previously installed earlier version to the current one?

This is only in Tahrpup.

Quickpet->Info->Tahrpup updates.

It will add any bug fixes and updates.

For updates to the version. Say V6.0 to V6.0.5.
You will have to run the Tahrpup Updates several times, because it will do it in stages.
V6.0 to V6.0.2
V6.0.2 to V6.0.3
V6.0.3 to V6.0.5

I do not think Quickpet has the info yet to update from V6.0.5 to V6.0.6.
Version 6.0.6 is still in testing and bug fixing.

Posted: Wed 08 Mar 2017, 16:28
by ally
managed to brick my installs whilst trying elementary os (don't bother)

new frugal install of tahr 6.0.6, YASSM not working, no other faults so far

(connected ok with pnethood)

:)

edit: realised I didn't provide much detail (!), yassm runs and scans system but only finds hidden@noname?

:)

Posted: Wed 08 Mar 2017, 16:38
by rockedge
just noticed YASSM is not working on my install of tahr 6.0.6 after you mentioned it.......

Upgrade tahrpup

Posted: Wed 08 Mar 2017, 17:33
by mikeslr
Hi DAC324,

Just compared my post with bigpup's. :oops: All I can say is "Well, if you want to do it the easy way!". :roll:

mikeslr

Posted: Thu 09 Mar 2017, 01:14
by bigpup
mikeslr,

Your info is very good for anyone to know. :!: :!:

I was just pointing out the Tahrpup specific option in Quickpet.

Posted: Mon 13 Mar 2017, 12:26
by sheldonisaac
Hi, 666philb or other expert.

When I have an SD card (this one is FAT32) in the slot of this Dell laptop E6410, and say pmount

it hangs
So I booted tahr 6.0.6 with pfix=ram,
and got this message:
Error: Could not stat device /dev/mmc - No such file or directory.
I don't recall whether this problem occurred with slim slacko, LuPu, or an earlier tahr.

Does the below give any clues?
The card is a microSDHC in an adapter.

(The same 'hang' occurred with an NTFS 4GB card)
fdisk -l /dev/mm*

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15931539456 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1936 cylinders, total 31116288 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1 8192 31116287 15554048 c W95 FAT32 (LBA)

Disk /dev/mmcblk0p1: 15.9 GB, 15927345152 bytes
4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 486064 cylinders, total 31108096 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x73696420

This doesn't look like a partition table
Probably you selected the wrong device.

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1p1 ? 1919950958 2464388050 272218546+ 20 Unknown
/dev/mmcblk0p1p2 ? 1330184202 1869160489 269488144 6b Unknown
/dev/mmcblk0p1p3 ? 538989391 1937352302 699181456 53 OnTrack DM6 Aux3
/dev/mmcblk0p1p4 * 1394627663 1394648999 10668+ 49 Unknown

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Tahrpup 6.0.5

Posted: Thu 16 Mar 2017, 22:33
by TIW
Hi.
I downloaded Tahrpup-6.0.5_PAE.iso , burned it to a CD and booted it, without inter fairing with the boot process until the desktop came up and the mouse froze as well as anything ells. The only option to power down was to press the power button.

My first thought was that something went wrong at download time.

So I downloaded Tahrpup again, burned it to a CD and booted it, without inter fairing with the boot process until the desktop came up again and the mouse froze as well as anything ells. The only option to power down was to press the power button again.

That indicated something might be wrong with the iso file.

Not to give up that easily I started an other reboot but at the “5 sec wait desktop

Posted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 02:18
by rockedge
sounds like a save file/folder is being found and loaded until you specified pfix=ram....on your drive somewhere?

Tahrpup 6.0.5

Posted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 21:28
by TIW
Hi rockedge
Actually I made sure before booting that there was no save-file to be found.
I wanted a pristine Tahrpup. I redone the hole burning and booting operation twice. Each time with the same result. Funny that. Maybe somebody works it out ? Thanks for your interests.

TIW

Posted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 21:35
by TIW
Hi.
I wanted to install a small application by the name of “ dayplanner

Posted: Fri 17 Mar 2017, 21:46
by 666philb
hi TIW,

i'm not in tahrpup at the mo but try this.......

grab the ubuntu package from here and install ..http://www.day-planner.org/download/ubuntu

then open the PPM (puppy package manager) and type into the find box and install....

libgtk2-perl
libany-moose-perl

then try running in a terminal

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dayplanner

Need a way to turn the screen-saver off when watching movies

Posted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 04:43
by jss83
Any way to automatically disable screen saver when playing movie in vlc? :? I'm on tahrpup 6.0.5 btw.

Re: Need a way to turn the screen-saver off when watching movies

Posted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 07:02
by bigpup
jss83 wrote:Any way to automatically disable screen saver when playing movie in vlc? :? I'm on tahrpup 6.0.5 btw.
VLC has a setting to disable screen saver, but it is probably already set to do this.
Open VLC Media player and go to Tools -> Preferences (Shortcut key is Ctrl P )
Select All from Show settings in the bottom-left corner of the Preferences window .
Now click the Video Tab on the side.
Now tick the Disable Screensaver box and click save.
This is a problem with Xorg. it does not register video playback as a registrable event such as a mouse movement or a keyboard click. So, when you play video in fullscreen mode, even though the video is playing, X.org thinks nothing is happening.

Easy answer:
Turn screen saver off while you use VLC.
Using the menu->Desktop->ScreenSaver Control.
Turn it back on when not using VLC.

A Google search for VLC screen saver disable, gives several hits.
This is from a Google search.
It is suppose to be a work around.
errorxp
26th January 2012, 07:21 PM
Ok this is how I fixed my screen blanking during movies with VLC:

Create a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (I named mine 00-system-dpms.conf) and put the following lines in it and then restart X

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "BlankTime" "0"
Option "StandbyTime" "0"
Option "SuspendTime" "0"
EndSection


This worked for me. Whenever a movie isn't playing it follows your power management settings in 'System Settings'. I haven't tried it with Totem, but I expect it will work there too.


Just tried it and now vlc works as expected. Thanks, you're a genious :dance:

Posted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 17:01
by jss83
Checked the VLC settings and it is turned on but doesn't work. I am doing it manually but I always forget to turn it off/on and it's a pain in the ass. Tried the xorg thing but it didn't work either. :?