Fatdog64-700/701 [April 22 2015] [CLOSED]

[Aung]

Bondy
You wouldnt want to know it, in the brief time I disabled eztables and fired up gslapt to load your new tables someone got me. I am getting spam from a lowlife with the insidious four letter word in the subject line and it aint 'work' The origional firewall must have been 'working' somewhat. However here's something that maybe useful to others in the future. I live in a block with 9 blinking 'hotspot thing'os' in the corridors. If the one you hook up with goes on the 'blink' then one has to disable tables and enable it again so it can pick up the newer hotspot that one assigns wga_gui to. I discovered this after doing the 'iptables -L -n ' thing and seeing a different address in tables from the one in wpa _gui. For 2 hours until I stumbled upon this the air was more blue than the spam I am now receiving.

[Aung]

Cleaned out the air chest from cooling trunking recently?
Glad you put a question mark at the end of that. All of my ancestors are from Blighty but cant understand what that is all about!!!

[Sage]

cant understand what that is all about

In a laptop, there is either a smaller version of an HSF on top of the cpu, or, more likely these days, a rudimentary heat-pipe system. Either way, heat is dumped by a fan through a small (far too small, requiring chip-makers to produce 'mobile' versions of their cpu as well as many other design expedients, not all of which would be otherwise desirable ) air chest into ducting which leads to a grill in the side, back or underside of the case. Make no mistake, the warm air has to be dumped to the outside world. Dust, dirt, grime, hair, even food particles, (belying the habits of the owner!) accumulate in the chest/duct cavities causing cpu overheating, strange irreproducible behaviour or failure. Anyone brought up on clocking desktop cpu installations will be familiar with the symptoms, although overheating is a consequence of deliberately pushing the envelope in these cases. Nothing makes a laptop technically desirable. It might've been different if ARM designs had been licensed a decade-and-an-half ago by Intel, in particular, instead of a few years ago when they got caught out (again) by the surge of smart phones. Big and rich doesn't necessarily make for wise management, best research innovation, technical choices and long-term survival at the top as BigBlue discovered to their cost a couple of decades further back. Let's be honest though - neither does State bankruptcy and bad politics, as the Brits discovered back in the 50-60's: ICL, Blue Streak, TSR2....
Just seen this pic. on the MicroLinux site - pictures saves a 1K words:

[Yoliano]

@jamesbond
@rcrsn51

I followed your last instructions and the printer came to life! It is printing normally now.

So many thanks to you both for your kind attention to my problem and it's resolution. I am very happy that I can now upgrade to fd64-700 Final and use it for my daily activities. I find it to be a very sharp and quick OS, and better than any previous releases.

My sincere thanks to "jamesbond" and "kirk" for this fine and very advanced OS, and to all who have contributed to it. It is without doubt, a great achievement.

Congratulations!

[JustGreg]

I have uploaded to the contributor repository, the latest version of LibreOffice for US English. It works fine on my system. I have tested it for documents (write), spreadsheets (Calculate) and presentations(Impress). I have no real drawing documents, so this is the only part that has not been tested.

Now, that I am familiar with the process to take the supplied binary to a squashed file system package, I will make the offer to create non-English packages. If you are interested or have a need, then either post a reply or send me a PM for the language. I will try to create the version for the language. I hope this helps.

[don570]

I made a zathura pet file for fatdog700.
Opens large pdf files.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70032



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[jamesbond]

@Yoliano: Glad to hear it works!

@Aung: EDIT: another update on eztables, please re-install from the repo. This should work even if your IP address changes.

@Sage: if you still have issue with bbc iplayer, try installing the updated hal-flash from the repo, restart your browser, and see if you can get it to work.

@smokey01 - those errors are harmless.

@JustGreg, don570 - thanks.

[Sage]

if you still have issue with bbc iplayer

Very many thanks for your helpful suggestions, jb & co., and kind consideration of the difficulties I have had/ am having in this respect. Much appreciated.
On another thread last week (where? - can't remember, hectic week on the home front!) I reported the whole FP fiasco as an example of the multi-headed Hydra, i.e. depends on FP version, 32/64bit OS, board (and BIOS, incidentally) and esp. memory complement, inter alia.
Sadly, I have decided to drop your excellent efforts with FD for the moment, along with recent manifestations of BK's releases. Many reasons, but main two are a) these unpredictable results coupled with the antics of Adobe b) difficult to reconcile recent developments of bloat/64bit/etc with original aims and personal usage requirements of a small, compact distro for testing HW, ( esp. as a fast liveCD) demo-ing to incomers, and land-fill saving ops.
Notwithstanding, recognise your amazing efforts pushing the boundaries and wish you best of luck. I am aware of similar sentiments amongst other Puppy users via PM.
Thanks again, chaps.

[olinm]

@olinm: I don't recall how 631 was configured, but in 700 yes subpixel hinting is enabled by default. You can disable it by doing "ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-no-sub-pixel.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d"

If i compare 631 to see if it was enabled before do i look for a line in /etc/fonts/conf.d ?

And did you try the new Firefox 36.0.1 to see if it resolved your DNS hang?

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[jamesbond]

@Sage - no worries.
@olinm - sorry, I haven't got the time to test it yet.

[ible]

I installed by moving the vmlinuz and initrd into a LVM partition, and I got a save file going there.

Two issues I've noticed:

1. I'm on Central Europe Time (CET), but Fatdog thinks it's CEST (central europe summer time). We don't change daylight savings until the end of March, so we won't move into CEST until the 29th.

2. Logging in as root, I copied over an image from another partition to the root/Desktop, to use as my background image. But everytime I reboot, the image becomes a broken link. I'm doing a hard copy ("cp /mnt/dm-2/... ..."), and I'm using the Save button; everything else seems to transfer between sessions, but not that picture.

Perhaps it's the way I installed things...

[L18L]

Tested Serbian keymaps.

Serbia's official script is cyrillic
but latin for minorities is required.
( For the record: Should be no problem for translating as there is msgfilter which can recode to latin [already tested] )

Fatdog appears to have "all you need".
Just one colon too much, see following code pasted from console:

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# cat $HOME/.fatdog/xkeymap
rs:latin
# 
# setxkbmap `cat $HOME/.fatdog/xkeymap`
Error loading new keyboard description
# 
# setxkbmap `cat $HOME/.fatdog/xkeymap | tr ':' ' '`
# asdfghjkl

[L18L]

I installed by moving the vmlinuz and initrd into a LVM partition, and I got a save file going there.

Two issues I've noticed:

1. I'm on Central Europe Time (CET), but Fatdog thinks it's CEST (central europe summer time). We don't change daylight savings until the end of March, so we won't move into CEST until the 29th.

2. Logging in as root, I copied over an image from another partition to the root/Desktop, to use as my background image. But everytime I reboot, the image becomes a broken link. I'm doing a hard copy ("cp /mnt/dm-2/... ..."), and I'm using the Save button; everything else seems to transfer between sessions, but not that picture.

Perhaps it's the way I installed things...

Confirm issue 1: tooltip on panel clock says it is summer time. NO it's not, not in Central Europe.
But core is OK:

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# date
Die Mär 10 16:50:40 CET 2015
#

no summer.

issue 2: You did not say where to to have copied.
Try copy to /usr/share/backgrounds.

[Aung]

Done JB, this time I didnt disable tables, just laid the new one over the top, Everything is OK at shieldup, the ping 's not going to worry me, not doing any Wolves of Wall St. boiler room stuff, AISIO or NSA wont find much. Thanks

[jamesbond]

1. I'm on Central Europe Time (CET), but Fatdog thinks it's CEST (central europe summer time). We don't change daylight savings until the end of March, so we won't move into CEST until the 29th.

Confirm issue 1: tooltip on panel clock says it is summer time. NO it's not, not in Central Europe.
But core is OK:

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# date
Die Mär 10 16:50:40 CET 2015
#

Can't do much about it, it's QT bug: I traced the code and the problem was timezone() function returning hardcoded tzname[1] in qlocale.cpp buried deep inside core QT libraries. I am not the first one to find out: see http://development.qt-project.narkive.c ... -in-effect. Took them a year to acknowledge that it was *their* bug and not glibc - https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-25556. Fixed for qt5.2 but unfortunately we're still on qt4 for now.

Just one colon too much, see following code pasted from console:

This is how the xkbmap is set from within xinitrc:

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# set keyboard layout - if needed
[ -e $KEYMAP_CONFIG ] && read xkeymap < $KEYMAP_CONFIG 2> /dev/null
case $xkeymap in
	"") 	;; 
	*:*)	setxkbmap -layout ${xkeymap%:*} -variant ${xkeymap#*:} ;;
	*) 		setxkbmap $xkeymap ;;
esac
unset xkeymap

So yes, it does take care of the colons. Yours is perhaps a simpler (and better) way, as it also make it easier to take care of additional "options" as well (e.g. for automatic keymap switching etc). I'll think about it.
EDIT: modified the code so it will use spaces instead of colons as separator. This also allows you to put all sort of stuff into the $KEYMAP_CONFIG file, including stuff not supported by the GUI (etc enabling multiple keymaps with alt-shift switching, etc).

[ible]

2. Logging in as root, I copied over an image from another partition to the root/Desktop, to use as my background image. But everytime I reboot, the image becomes a broken link. I'm doing a hard copy ("cp /mnt/dm-2/... ..."), and I'm using the Save button; everything else seems to transfer between sessions, but not that picture.

issue 2: You did not say where to to have copied.
Try copy to /usr/share/backgrounds.

I copied to /root/Desktop/Picture. Weird thing is, that it pops up with an error "cannot find ible/Desktop/Picture", even though I'm logging in as root. At first, I tried making a user account ible but it was unwieldly -- I couldn't easily figure out how to run the configuration panel and such as root. So I deleted the ible account. I may try to see what steps reproduce the error later.

Sad to hear about the time bug with Qt4, but shame on them .

[L18L]

...
I copied to /root/Desktop/Picture...

Copy to /usr/share/backgrounds
and use an app in Control Panel > Desktop

[L18L]

...Fixed for qt5.2 but unfortunately we're still on qt4 for now.

Let us hope the missing localizations, see screenshot, will be also fixed then.

...This also allows you to put all sort of stuff into the $KEYMAP_CONFIG file, including stuff not supported by the GUI (etc enabling multiple keymaps with alt-shift switching, etc).

... a very good idea, bravo!
Thus I do not have to ask this questions which I had before:

How can user use different keymap variants, as the only way I know is via /etc/X11/xorg.conf?

We will use setxkbmap and the $KEYMAP_CONFIG file for these variants and options.

[L18L]

...Serbia's official script is cyrillic
but latin for minorities is required.
( For the record: Should be no problem for translating as there is msgfilter which can recode to latin [already tested] )

just to finish this issue here is the result of recode for the record.

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#!/bin/sh
# recode mo files from default serbian to latin
#
TEXTDOMAINDIR=/usr/share/locale
FROM_DIR=$TEXTDOMAINDIR/sr/LC_MESSAGES
TO_DIR=$TEXTDOMAINDIR/sr@latin/LC_MESSAGES
TMP=/tmp/bla

die  () { [ "$DISPLAY" ] && Xdialog --infobox "$1" 0 0 30000 || dialog --infobox "$1" 0 0; exit 1; }

cd $FROM_DIR || die "$FROM_DIR not found"
mkdir -p $TO_DIR

for aMOfile in `ls *.mo $FROM_DIR`; do
  msgunfmt $aMOfile | msgfilter recode-sr-latin > /tmp/bla 
  [ -f ${TO_DIR}/${aMOfile} ] || msgfmt /tmp/bla -o - >   ${TO_DIR}/${aMOfile}
done
 
rm $TMP
exit 0

26 mo files (the fat ones) have been recoded to sr-latin by this script..

[Semme]

Hey, nice job! Runs a treat aboard my neighbors Toshiba L855. I need a hand though..

Has anyone got a pre-compiled r8192ce_pci for their Realtek rtl8188ce, rev01 [10ec:8176], or am I gonna have to grab the devx?

Hmm, looks like 700's got this:

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02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter [10ec:8176] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device [10ec:8212]
	Kernel driver in use: rtl8192ce
	Kernel modules: rtl8192ce

Is this the one that's included? >> https://github.com/FreedomBen/rtl8188ce-linux-driver

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OK, since it has an infested copy of Win_8, this article allowed me to move along.

I'll add the connection's neither stable nor consistent as it seems to sporadically lose its BSSID key.

Is there something I can do outside not knowing whether FD700 ships with the Ben/github driver I posted earlier?