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Posted: **Fri 30 Dec 2016, 20:20**

By the way, i think puppy should come almost "barebones" as it's getting big. and let the user install apps. and reduce firmware and let the users complain..

maybe the core linux approach or things like quickpet or peebee's script to download browser sfs make more sense

There should be alternatively a barebone version too .
One regular version and one barebone.

Posted: **Fri 30 Dec 2016, 20:28**

sheldonisaac wrote:If some of you experts can to that, and make it easy for us users to fix missing firmware, libs, etc, I'd be very glad.

Sheldon

Well, i'm just giving suggestions... it's up to the puppy builder to decide what goes in and what goes out.

I personally don't like rox and have a hard time using any puppy that comes with rox.

Lately i've been building dpup stretch.. just to test. The iso is about 210MB xz compressed, no browser and no office apps (abiword, gnumeric)... using one of the old tahrpup 3.14 kernels with very limited firmware. However it has many libs, python (even perl i think) and some other stuff, basically you can install anything.. maybe.

However if you look closely you'll see huge libs in /usr/lib/dri/ and /usr/lib/libLLVM-3.9.so.1... almost 50mb in this single lib.

Many apps from the major distros are heavily bloated... that's why i'm looking at Alpine Linux. I think i'll try to create a puppy based on Alpine, it will probably take me a month or so, but i'm not sure i'll have time, there is no time.

Posted: **Sat 31 Dec 2016, 01:37**

Tahr 6.0.5.3 testing
Fresh frugal install
Initial boot no save

Quickpet->Drivers->Video Upgrade Wizard

No drivers listed for the 6.0.5.3 iso

Posted: **Sat 31 Dec 2016, 04:21**

After hours i managed to reimplement support for encrypted savefiles. It's using a special losetup binary, that is not losetup-FULL nor losetup (busybox), but losetup-222.

For the first time ever i created and tested encrypted savefiles, there's always a first time haha.

losetup encryption was dropped in version 2.23... so i compiled losetup 2.22 statically. the same binary can be found in the initrd.gz file and the puppy.sfs file.

For details, see commit: 44e15f2fc9cf0374f35b5c0cecf0470b4cf7a0c3

The next tahrpup, xenialup, slacko, etc release.. will have these changes.

However the ability to create losetup encrypted savefiles might be dropped to favor cryptsetup or truecrypt... whatever.. it's not in my priority list.

Posted: **Sat 31 Dec 2016, 13:35**

I am running tahrpup 6.0.5.

After looking at the save file in this puppy I am not entirely sure of the best way to make a good backup of the save file.

There doesn't seem to be anything quick and easy like Pupsave Hot Backup. (To Bad)

What do you recommend using to make a backup of the save file?

Is there any special way of making the backup save file that you would recommend?

Posted: **Sat 31 Dec 2016, 14:26**

don922 wrote:I am running tahrpup 6.0.5.

What do you recommend using to make a backup of the save file?

Is there any special way of making the backup save file that you would recommend?

I use this command, with great success:

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cp -ax /mnt/sdxx/your-tahrpup/savefile /the/destination/dir

Hope this is if some help.

festus

Posted: **Sun 01 Jan 2017, 03:09**

don922 wrote:I am running tahrpup 6.0.5.

After looking at the save file in this puppy I am not entirely sure of the best way to make a good backup of the save file.

There doesn't seem to be anything quick and easy like Pupsave Hot Backup. (To Bad)

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49999

It's an interesting script. It takes "snapshots" of the savefile. I guess i'll try to make it work with savefolders too..

I updated it for woofce. It's working fine. I see it can be smaller.

I created a a pet pkg. See the attached file.

My edited version is Woof-CE specific. Don't try it in older pups.

The script is now part of the base. See f45de871afb2156d4b919a8998dd6278ca1c1f3c ...
so possible fixes and updates will happen there ...

Posted: **Sun 01 Jan 2017, 06:05**

I downloaded and tried the new version of Pupsave Hot Backup. I couldn't get it to work I got the following error message:

Sorry, not using an ext2-4 save file...

The structure of the save file in tahr-6.0.5 is different than I have ever seen before. But, I haven't looked at very many of the new puppies.

I don't know enough to fix the save file problem.

Posted: **Sun 01 Jan 2017, 13:45**

don922 wrote:I downloaded and tried the new version of Pupsave Hot Backup. I couldn't get it to work I got the following error message:

Sorry, not using an ext2-4 save file...

I admit that message is not very clear. It means you're probably using a savefolder.. or the code has a bug.

On first shutdown you are offered two options: savefolder (default) or savefile. The script only supports savefiles.. and it's a little big for a simple task.. back up file with date/time appended to it. A snapshot..

You might want to start again and choose:
file Single file, ext2/3/4 filesystem image in it.

Posted: **Sun 01 Jan 2017, 15:54**

Hi,
is it possible to include the exfat file system with Pmount ?
This file system is use with flash device and works with exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packets, but there is nos icon on the desktop and for mount and umount the console must be use.
Maybe there is a better way, a module, i don't know.
I test on some puppies and it works fine only with fatdog.
The christmas day is out and the next so far : a wish for the new year.
Philippe

Posted: **Sun 01 Jan 2017, 18:48**

Manual frugal install to internal HDD.
Only significant problem found so far is that wireless does not automatically connect. Settings are saved - I can click on the tray icon and then click "Connect", so don't need to go through connection set up again.
No problems with previous Tahrs, but Slacko is inconsistent.

Internal Intel wifi card (ipw2200).

Posted: **Sun 01 Jan 2017, 22:13**

I burned the iso to a CD then used the puppy installer to an 8gb
SDHC card:

System: Host: Lenovo-ThinkCentre Kernel: 3.14.79 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.6 Distro: tahrpup 6.0.5.3
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: MJ01509
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: INVALID BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2003/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 126x51 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 328.0GB (2.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 36 F (2 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: January 1, 5:02 PM EST
Info: Processes: 113 Uptime: 40 min Memory: 139.3/2905.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.7

total used free shared buffers
Mem: 2975636 2429116 546520 0 190368
-/+ buffers: 2238748 736888
Swap: 2103292 0 2103292

Installed kdegames with PPM along with a few other applications.

Works good so far,
Thanks.

Posted: **Sun 01 Jan 2017, 22:26**

Installed 6.05.3 to SSD on my EEEPC 901. Works just fine for me so far.

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 01:58**

augras wrote:Hi,
is it possible to include the exfat file system with Pmount ?
This file system is use with flash device and works with exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packets, but there is nos icon on the desktop and for mount and umount the console must be use.
Maybe there is a better way, a module, i don't know.
Philippe

Hmmm mavrothal just added support for exFAT filesystems... see 18bfb65c789d4f679fe744ead345c2c5d540cc8b

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 02:00**

don922 wrote:...

I updated PHB (more simplified, more refinements..) .. try this..

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 06:36**

jlst wrote:
don922 wrote:...
I updated PHB (more simplified, more refinements..) .. try this..

A couple of issues:
MB available is not showing.
After a backup the "quit" button is not selectable anymore.

A couple of enhancements:
Offer to snapmerge before backup in pupmode 13
(most important) backup savefolder (as a tarball or just another folder)

Down the road:
Implement the reverse action.

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 09:40**

jlst wrote:
augras wrote:Hi,
is it possible to include the exfat file system with Pmount ?
This file system is use with flash device and works with exfat-fuse and exfat-utils packets, but there is nos icon on the desktop and for mount and umount the console must be use.
Maybe there is a better way, a module, i don't know.
Philippe
Hmmm mavrothal just added support for exFAT filesystems... see 18bfb65c789d4f679fe744ead345c2c5d540cc8b

It's very kind of him.
I answer on the issue : it doesn't completely work yet but it's in a very good way.
Philippe

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 16:24**

augras wrote: I answer on the issue : it doesn't completely work yet but it's in a very good way.

What does not "completely" work?
Works at my end with both exFAT drives and exFAT images.
What is the problem that you see?

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 16:59**

Hi mavrothal,
I just replace the files by these new on github.
The icon comes on the desktop when the flash key is connected : on click it's not a rox window that appears but a pMount one. pMount show the usb flash but there is an error when click to mount : "Unable to mount sdb1".
It works with a mount by hand in a console with
mount-FULL /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 or mount.exfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1
I introduce on line 258 of pmount file
exfat)
mount-FULL -t $DOFS $DODEV /mnt/$DEVNAME
RETVAL1=$?
;;
and now the click to mount is also working... in pMount window
but the icon doesn't change to show the mount status and it doesn't work automatically on click to the devices icon.

EDIT one :
And if i disconnect my key and connect it to an other usb port the icon doesn't come on the desktop until i reboot (maybe just restart the x server but i don't try it) : but it still works with pMount to mount or umount the device.

EDIT two : don't need to reboot, the x server restart is enough
Philippe

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 17:14**

augras wrote: EDIT two : don't need to reboot, the x server restart is enough

No change is needed. Just delete the contents of /root/.pup_event/* and restart X.

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