New Pup for the Eeepc based on Puppy 301

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dvw86 · #121 Post by **dvw86** » Tue 26 Feb 2008, 04:48

Beartooth:

Have you ran the Puppy CD/DVD Drive Wizard?

Beartooth · #122 Post by **Beartooth** » Tue 26 Feb 2008, 16:25

Whussa Drive Wizard?? I didn't know there were such things.

My bad. Sorry. I'll go look. Stay tuned.

And many thanks! That may well be just the clue I needed.

PS Later : I just remembered I have two CDs, one 131.2MB, and one 131.4. Just in case it matters, do youhave any idea what the difference could be??

(I'll try with the 131.4 first.)

Beartooth · #123 Post by **Beartooth** » Tue 26 Feb 2008, 20:33

All I did was launch that wizard. It found the drive, and named it as the only option
in all three of its places.

Then I ran the installer again. It installed Puppy -- in a tiny little space on hdc1 (called sda1 in F8 -- less than 200 MB total, including F8's boot sector). It connected to the Net -- something Fedora can not yet manage. (And yes,I mean plain Fedora 8, not EeeDora.) And it saved my details to a thumb drive.

In a word, Wow!

The only thing I couldn't seem to manage was to get into Grub's menu.lst and add the Puppy lines there; but I had done the like with Fedora, CentOS, and Ubuntu several times.

As root in F8 :

mkdir /TEST
mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /TEST
cd /TEST

Then discover that /boot/grub/menu.lst is only a symlink to /boot/grub/grub.conf ; so edit that with nano -w to add the Puppy lines. Save, and reboot.

Maybe I should have altered the above to ext2, not ext3?

Anyway, it worked. Grub now gives me a choice of Fedora or Puppy; and both boot.

Praise you with great praise!

BigEd · #124 Post by **BigEd** » Tue 26 Feb 2008, 21:26

dvw86 wrote: All that comes to mind is that you are somehow removing the loaded module or loading the wrong one. The correct one is loaded by default and should stay that way unless you manually remove it. The default module is:

ath_pci pci Support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards.

Yeah has been fine since, god knows what i did! In fact it is currently being road tested in a hostel in Glasgow, Scotland

Will update to your newest version when i get home.
Still using the same version (a couple of releases old now, you work fast!!!) and have yet to load the standard OS

mdd · #125 Post by **mdd** » Wed 27 Feb 2008, 08:42

Does anyone know how to turn the wifi radio off and back on again? Under Xandros, you could do this with Fn-F2, but that doesn't work with pupeee. Since the radio's therefore always on, this has a negative impact on battery life.

--MDD

tempestuous · #126 Post by **tempestuous** » Wed 27 Feb 2008, 16:38

Forum member papos has contributed the "luvcview" webcam viewer application, which is closely allied to the uvcvideo webcam driver used in the Eee, so I think it has a better-than-average chance of working with the Eee -
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 706#177706

But the dotpet papos provided is packaged with the uvcvideo module itself, which might not be as good as the uvcvideo module already included in Pupeee, since Pupeee's version was compiled from source code obtained from Asus. So it might be worth extracting the dotpet (with "pet2tgz") and only installing the luvcview components, not the uvcvideo module.

JustGreg · #127 Post by **JustGreg** » Thu 28 Feb 2008, 00:15

mdd,

I am using the third (latest) version of PupEee. The key combination of "Fn F2" works for me. It will turn the wireless module on or off. I have found that the wireless kernel modules have to be present to make it work properly. If they are not present, then the key combination will not work. I use the key combination to turn the wireless light off and on to make sure the wireless hardware is working. I hope this helps.

dvw86 · #128 Post by **dvw86** » Thu 28 Feb 2008, 20:01

I'm trying to put together a list of updates for the next release of Pupeee. I want to make sure that I don't forget anything. The updates so far only include:

Hotpup the desktop drive mounting tool.
Puppy Control Panel. Need to finish the help pages and mouse tool first.
Remove the current JWM configuration tool.
Slightly different default desktop.
Some kind of wireless configuration tool for the Intel Classmate.

Am I forgetting anything?

mdd · #129 Post by **mdd** » Thu 28 Feb 2008, 23:26

JustGreg wrote:mdd,

I am using the third (latest) version of PupEee. The key combination of "Fn F2" works for me. It will turn the wireless module on or off. I have found that the wireless kernel modules have to be present to make it work properly. If they are not present, then the key combination will not work. I use the key combination to turn the wireless light off and on to make sure the wireless hardware is working. I hope this helps.

I'm using an earlier version, probably the first, in a full install on the SSD. Any suggestions on what files I would need to modify/update to get it working would be appreciated.

--MDD

JustGreg · #130 Post by **JustGreg** » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 00:22

mdd,

I think dvw86 on his web site has the difference files. I have never used them. So I am no help on their use. There may be instructions on the site.
You may have to go from first to the second and second to third. On my systems, I split the hard drive into at least two partitions. I keep one with the stable and other I install the latest version. As new versions come out, I can install the newest version over the oldest version. This works nice and does not force me to do backups.

It may also be possible to do an new version installation and have it update. The best way is to do a frugal install to the ext 2 partition and then save to the entire partition. For an update, one justs copies the new
vmlinuz, initrd.gz, pup_###.sfs and zrdv files.

JustGreg · #131 Post by **JustGreg** » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 00:27

With my Intel Classmate, the Network Wizard works fine. I found the first time, it loaded the wrong kernel module. After some playing, I found that the RT73 USB module works fine. One can even do WPA2 connections with wpa_supplicant. I hope this helps. When you release the next version, I will test it on the Classmate.

Oh by the way, it would not bother me to drop skype application. But, that is your call. I do not have a use for it on either the Classmate or EeePC.

Lobster · #132 Post by **Lobster** » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 01:19

Be interested to hear from those who have tried Breezy and PupEEE
and the Eeepc and the Classmate. Any comments or preferences?

Will the SFS Tronkel is creating for Puppy 3.02 work on PupEEE

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/TalkingStickLassie

Caneri · #133 Post by **Caneri** » Sat 01 Mar 2008, 02:15

Here's a pic of the Classmate with Hotpup...works great.

I had to rmmod 2570 then load rt73

Anyway Pupee runs very well...my wpa has a bit of a problem but it may be my under layer off security.
EDIT: I use Skype so for me keep it.
EDIT: My usb Logitech web cam works perfectly with Pupeee in Skype
Eric

smokey01 · #134 Post by **smokey01** » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 00:26

JustGreg wrote: Oh by the way, it would not bother me to drop skype application. But, that is your call. I do not have a use for it on either the Classmate or EeePC.

JustGreg, the main reason I use Pupeee is because the Eee PC is small and light. I use Skype when traveling to keep in touch with friends at home and world wide.

On my last trip I carried a Dell laptop. Very useful but 2.5kg becomes quite heavy and just another thing to carry. The Eee PC is barely noticeable.

I have also tried Pocket PC's. Not enough functionality and too small to be useful, especially the keypads.

The Eee PC and Puppy, absolutely perfect.

My vote is to include Skype.

Thanks guys.

JustGreg · #135 Post by **JustGreg** » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 00:39

Not a problem, smokey1. It was a suggestion. However, the last thing that I want is my management and fellow employees knowing I can do a teleconference while on vacation. If a teleconference does happen then I would be in big time trouble with my bride of 35 years. Besides, dvw86 is in control. If it was removed then I think there is a pet that could be installed.

MyPup · #136 Post by **MyPup** » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 01:21

I really like the progress that Dan has made on his pupeee project I can't really ask for anything more. However, I have a question about the hotpup addition will it be possible to remove this from the package manager? As I am a noob and the last time I seen this "feature" in another puppy it left my desktop with so many icons that they just got in the way. I don’t mean to sound ungrateful for all your fine work just wondering if I could remove that feature easily or not due to the limited screen space. Also I really like being able to make video calls with my epc and love the new black theme. I may try out wbar as what Rhino used in myPup web 2.0 wbar seen here http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 06&t=19929 I remember how much I liked it and with the epc it may make a good choice as I use rocketdock when I boot from the ssd as I got tired of xandros on the ssd and went back to xp. The only thing I need now is an easy alteranative to conky to monitor temps. (picture from the first edition pupeee from a previous post of mine).

dvw86 · #137 Post by **dvw86** » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 15:33

MyPup wrote: However, I have a question about the hotpup addition will it be possible to remove this from the package manager? As I am a noob and the last time I seen this "feature" in another puppy it left my desktop with so many icons that they just got in the way. I don’t mean to sound ungrateful for all your fine work just wondering if I could remove that feature easily or not due to the limited screen space.

It is really easy to turn it off or to just not show all the icons. Not everyone knows that though. I have been debating on what setting to use since the Eeepc does have a lot of partitions by default and a small screen. I'm still undecided.

dvw86 · #138 Post by **dvw86** » Sun 02 Mar 2008, 16:04

Actually, I think I have a solution for the Hotpup question. I will just write a little application that will popup a dialog box the first time someone clicks on the "drives" icon. I will simply ask if they want to turn on the desktop icons or continue to use pmount. A quick explanation will be offered as well as a "Do Not Show Again" check box and a "Tell Me More" button that would then go into more detail of the options.

MyPup · #139 Post by **MyPup** » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 00:16

One thing I have done to make my desktop better is to open icons and scale canvas them to 28 which makes it better for such a limited desktop area. Also I have reduced my conky to not take up so much area. And of course added Firefox for its extra and very useful options. I really didn't see the need to have such big icons on such a tiny screen, Looking forward to other people suggestions that have much more experience than I. Also I would like to know how to adjust the timing of the menu bar to make it not pop up so fast when my mouse is in the lower part of my screen. If anyone would like a copy of my conky script (.conkyrc) you can get it herehttp://pastebin.ca/927984 just make a copy of your original first if you need to go back to it. If you need conky you can get it here http://puppylinux.ca/bugs/ It is very simple to install just click and paste two lines of code to your .xintrc file in your home dir. I like the batmon program very handy but the big green bar is an extra reminder for me. You can add what ever you feel like monitoring to the file. Would like to here from others what they are using with there pupeee.

Hedgehog · #140 Post by **Hedgehog** » Mon 03 Mar 2008, 19:09

Getting ready for deployment to Iraq in about 10 months, and will be purchasing an asus Eeepc to take with me, I will install Pupeee and will be keeping an eye on this forum. I haven't had time to read the whole thing yet, but will hopefully soon. Anybody know how well the video works? I play a game that takes good video, not great video, just good video. Its called Eternal Lands. Anybody play it on the asus Eee? its Linux, windows, and mac supported.

Also, I need my ipod to be able to charge, and upload songs onto. Its the small square Ipod shuffle 1 gig.

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