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Posted: **Tue 29 Mar 2016, 01:24**

Still running a fully updated Remix OS for PC from a USB 3.0 drive. I'm doing about 50/50 on apps from the Playstore, some work fine,a few don't work and some lock up the computer..Remix has survived several hard poweroffs with no obvious ill effects though.

Still experimenting.....

Posted: **Tue 29 Mar 2016, 16:35**

to james ...

You should recommend some apps that work.

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Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2016, 02:14**

I've received my Remix box last month. Not happy with the issues I've run into. Issues with USB wireless Keyboard-mouse Logitech combo; monitor has trouble waking after it goes asleep when cut away after watching TV or using other HDMI device; intermittent screen action.

The update took a full day to complete when received and requires a wired keyboard+mouse to begin use.

They may be a little too early with their technology they provide. And, it seems their approach to issues will be field resolution of running Remixes.

Will report apps used for LAN services when/if I retain this unit.

Posted: **Sat 16 Apr 2016, 10:54**

Suggested: Microsoft should drop Windows Mobile for Android and buy Jide Remix OS
http://www.zdnet.com/article/yes-micros ... -remix-os/

Having used Remix OS for over a year, it's clear to me that this variant of Android is tailor-made for Microsoft. It's a full version of Android that has been designed to look and work much like Windows, right down to a file manager and familiar taskbar. Throw in the ability to run apps in windows on tablets and it's perfect for the Windows brand.

That's a good fit for the folks in Redmond and would allow them to put a Windows brand on it even though it is Android. Its Android apps already work out of the box on Remix OS and it wouldn't restrict those from OEM partners. It's a win-win for Microsoft.

Posted: **Mon 25 Apr 2016, 16:30**

Another Chinese company has entered the market to compete with Remix..
Charbax found them at a fair. One year experience and 30 employees

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-uKdKekZ48
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Posted: **Mon 25 Apr 2016, 20:51**

There is also a X86 64bit version
Lilliputing video review....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlH9_KgMja4

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Posted: **Tue 26 Apr 2016, 06:47**

I think my ReMix has the S500 version of the BubbleGum board that is shown in the videos surrounding the Phoenix booth at that show.

Posted: **Tue 26 Apr 2016, 16:17**

Phoenix OS installer doesn't work on my Windows XP machine

http://www.phoenixos.com/en/download_x86

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Posted: **Thu 02 Jun 2016, 21:44**

There is now an all-in-one computer now available using JIDE remix OS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XVdbXyNl8M

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Posted: **Mon 06 Jun 2016, 19:35**

AOC monitor video by Italian site

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wslzSOXyniA
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Qualcom has shown its new device using Remix OS
Snapdragon 652 https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapd ... essors/652

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gKL5dVCTTY

Snapdragon 650 (618) and 652 (620)

Snapdragon 618 and Snapdragon 620 were announced on 18 February 2015.[155] They have been since renamed as Snapdragon 650 and Snapdragon 652 respectively.[191] Snapdragon 650 is a hexa-core SoC featuring two ARM Cortex-A72 processor cores and four Cortex-A53 cores, while Snapdragon 652 has four ARM Cortex-A72 cores and four Cortex-A53 cores. The specifications of the two chips are otherwise similar. They have a dual-channel LPDDR3 memory interface, support Cat 7 LTE connectivity, and feature a next-generation Adreno 510 GPU.[155]

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Posted: **Thu 16 Jun 2016, 00:37**

AOC has listed the product in Chinese .
I don't see any price mentioned.
http://www.aocdisplay.com.cn/product/yunyitiji/987

product Code C3263AM / 26
product name Cloud terminal one machine
coloring scheme white
Display 31.5 inches LED-backlit (curved screen)
1,920x1,080 @ 60Hz
operating system Remix OS
Platform solution Amlogic
Processor Architecture ARM
Processor type Quad-Core 64-bit ARM @ Cortex -A53, the highest frequency of 2.0GHz
Memory Capacity 2GB
Hard drive capacity 16 GB
Graphics The five nuclear ARM @ Mali-450
Video Interface N / A
High-speed digital interfaces USB2.0 x4
Definition digital interface HDMI x1
Broadband access RJ45 x1
Wireless network card Built-in wireless network card
sound system Built-in 2-watt speaker x2
microphone N / A
camera Built-in 2 megapixel camera
Power (W) <42
Net / Gross Weight (Kg) 7.2 / 9.0
Dimensions (mm) 723 (W) x173 (D) x498 (H)
Packing size (mm) 797 (W) x175 (D) x569 (H)

Posted: **Mon 04 Jul 2016, 11:57**

Here's the Kickstarter page for a mini laptop running Remix OS.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hy ... d-remix-os

Supposed to be about 130 US dollars at retail price, which sounds right.

Posted: **Mon 04 Jul 2016, 13:00**

Having used the Mini for awhile, its a rather smooth experience to the TV. It has now become stable in its operation.

But for some things that we do using our phones with touch, the mini does not do.

With this Remix announcement for a laptop, the lack of touch and the display's resolution should make a current smartPhone user be a little concerned. And, it also misses the USB3 technology.

Thus, to me, it appears they are selling you their Remix Mini which has its own screen for carry around purposes. My mini was less than $80 as I remember.

A recent release (last week) from HP would be a better candidate for an Android system as it provides a Touch screen. Granted it comes as a Chromebook, HP says Android apps capability is there. It is available now at the HP site with the components built in that are lacking in the Remix offering. It comes with USB3. Insure you order the Touchscreen model.

For Android and Android apps experience, I would recommend using a touch screen platform, having been an Android user for 5 years.

Whether Android OSes of today or ChromeOS devices on ANY portable unit that you carry around, a user has to pay attention to Touch and to the video resolution of one's unit. It is the most important, in your face, feature of your carry-around, IMHO.

FYI

Posted: **Wed 27 Jul 2016, 01:32**

Remix OS for PC moves to Android 6.0

http://www.slashgear.com/remix-os-for-p ... -26449639/

Android Nougat is around the corner and with it comes split windows. But while Google is still adjusting to having more than one app window on the screen at the same time, Jide is already perfecting its craft. With Remix OS for PC, it has brought desktop-like Android computing to PCs and Macs running on Intel and AMD chips. Now with the latest update, the giving those same computers a taste of Android 6.0 Marshmallow, as well as improvements to its window management features.

Posted: **Sat 30 Jul 2016, 17:47**

Andromium OS is still promoting itself --> Superbook project

Detailed Specs

11.6" LCD display at 768p
7.6" x 11.3" x 0.7" (19.3 cm x 28.7 cm x 1.8cm)
2.0lb / 0.9kg
Custom Charging Port w/ Standard US Charger
USB Type-C port
Supports Type-C and Micro-B smartphones
8+ hour battery life
Simultaneously charges smartphone
QWERTY keyboard (Android OS layout)
Android-specific navigation keys (Home, Back, Menu, Recent)
Multi-touch trackpad

Smartphone Minimum Requirements

Android 5.0+
Dual Core Processor and above
1.5GB RAM or higher
Type-C or Micro-B phone port
25mb of free storage (100mb+ recommended)

http://www.trustedreviews.com/how-tos/h ... -into-a-pc
http://androidcommunity.com/andromium-t ... -20160722/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/an ... a-laptop-f
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQm8ax6hsiE

About this project
UPDATE 7/28: We passed 1M - 1080p screen unlocked + new stretch goals!

We just posted an update detailing how to opt for the 1080p upgrade and sharing more about our new stretch goals!

Stretch goals activated:

150K: Major International Language Keyboard Decals
300K: Extra USB Port - Full Size Type A
500K: Bigger Battery - 8hr+ to 10hr+
1M: 1080p Option ($30 added cost upgrade, note: does reduce max battery life by 1hr)
1.5M: Customized Superbook Sleeves w/ Pockets for Smartphone, free to all backers!
2M: Backlit Keyboard Option ($25 added cost upgrade)

Can you do it? Yes. Should you do it? Let's find out.

Could your smartphone be the only computer you need? That's the dream pitched by a new Kickstarter campaign, but it's not a new dream.

Motorola tried it back 2011 with its Webtop software and Lapdock hardware, but it died within 18 months. Microsoft struck on a similar idea with its Continuum feature for Windows 10 Mobile smartphones, but the Microsoft's declining mobile fortunes don't bode well for its future.

You can forget Apple trying something this radical, too, so it’s left to Android to pick up the slack. Enter Andronium OS and its Superbook.

Posted: **Sun 31 Jul 2016, 18:06**

If you have ever programmed something in Android you'll know what a !@#$%^&*? platform it is. That's why a "3rd party frameworks layer" are so popular (e.g. Xamarin - now owned by Microsoft, or PhoneGap, etc)

In addition, a device that you don't have full control over, is not your device. I personally won't touch these devices with a 10-feet pole if they don't give me a secure way to grant root access, out of the box. Can you imagine having to install an exploit to gain administrative access to your own computer? That's what these Android PCs are. The end game is very obvious.

Even with root access, these devices are very often *NOT* upgradeable. This forum is full of people who run Puppies on PC used to run Win95/Win98/WinXP/WinVista whatever. Some even runs Puppies on Macs. I just want to highlight that the devices listed in this particular thread, in general, are Puppy-killer. You *can't* run Puppy there, ever.

My house is now littered with "practically-dead" Android tablets. Oh they still power up and work fine, the problem is the Android version in them is "too old" that many apps no longer supports them. This is excerbated by Google Play Store where you can only get the latest version of the apps. What good is a computer without the applications?

You can't upgrade the OS because they are practically OEM devices with OEM version of Android, you depend on the OEM to provide the update for you. But most cheap OEMs don't bother to provide any updates at all. But Android is open source you say! Open-source my a**, I would say. The base Android *is* open source, but most OEMs customise things on top of AOSP to the point that basic AOSP won't work for your system. And you can't get the source for these customised builds, so no cake for you. Even if you can, you may not be able to install it because the bootloader is locked "for your own protection" (haha surprise surprise! - if you think UEFI is bad, wait until you meet locked Android bootloader).

Even major brand-name devices are only supported for 3 years. After that 3 years, even if your devices are still perfectly fine, you're supposed to toss it to the bin and get a new one. Planned obsolence to the very finest. Hey, if the customer is not spending, economy will stop, no?

These devices are the very opposite of Puppy spirit.

You want to support Linux? Don't support Android PCs. Support one of these: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/. Disclaimer: not affiliated with these guys. Just happen to like the concept.
Another disclaimer: this post is not meant to shoot at anyone. I just want people to know the truth about these products. If you know what you're going to get and can live with the restrictions, by all means get one of these.

Posted: **Sun 31 Jul 2016, 18:51**

Hey, james --> http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107369

...I contributed some hardware work to them

glad they're getting publicity and a shoutout from you. I know you're a cool guy around these here parts.

I've linked to your post here, on the EOMA-68 mailing list. Luke, the leader of our little project, is Puppy member 'lkcl' -- let me know if you have questions or comments for him, and if he doesn't respond directly, I'll quite happily forward them on.

By the way -- you've got the one Puppy in your hand, that can potentially do EOMA-68. Fancy a little (more?) porting work on FatDogARM...?

Posted: **Mon 01 Aug 2016, 07:15**

Some issue with double adjacent square brackets left blank entry so re-copied below.

Posted: **Mon 01 Aug 2016, 12:09**

This {https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/ } is a very interesting development. No doubt ARM is the future. However, in my long (& bitter!) experience it's not the laptop PC that fails, it's the screen!!! [& sometimes the connectors]. Replacement or s/h screens cost more than an entire used, complete working unit. Moreover, if you've got a very old laptop with a working screen, chances are that it's incompatible and/or doesn't have the card slot.
Maybe things are different in the world's primary disposable nation? But, if they're dumping old laptops in dumpsters (you won't find them in skips in Blighty!) you need to find one that has been carefully placed therein, not heaved.
Frankly, I've always found all laptops an expensive waste of time & dosh.

Posted: **Mon 01 Aug 2016, 14:43**

Sage wrote:This https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop/ } is a very interesting development. No doubt ARM is the future. However, in my long (& bitter!) experience it's not the laptop PC that fails, it's the screen!!! [& sometimes the connectors]. Replacement or s/h screens cost more than an entire used, complete working unit. Moreover, if you've got a very old laptop with a working screen, chances are that it's incompatible and/or doesn't have the card slot.
Maybe things are different in the world's primary disposable nation? But, if they're dumping old laptops in dumpsters (you won't find them in skips in Blighty!) you need to find one that has been carefully placed therein, not heaved.
Frankly, I've always found all laptops an expensive waste of time & dosh.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Jide tries again, Remix Mini does Android PC

If a portable device with Andriod, consider Touchsceen use

Remix OS for PC moves to Android 6.0

Superbook project