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Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 17:28**

Dpup Safe Browser;

Nice idea but because no data is saved it is not immediately apparent how to customise locale and addons like TACO and British English dictionary. There are some things the user needs to save between sessions!

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 17:30**

Hi!

I also get the
"Xdialog
Wpa-supplicant failed to start."

I am NOT on a wired connection.
I use a 3G-modem to connect to the internet, but have not been able to connect in beta 1 or beta 2. Also because of the missing pgprs-files, in both beta1 and beta2.

JorgenS

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 17:40**

Terryphi, for saving stuff and customizing use the regular firefox session. When I started safe browser it had several messages on start that cannot install some items because of rdf not found (I guess addons?)

@JorgenS beta1 had required pgprs files, pgprs-setup just needed patching so it runs after first setup again if user didn't enter pin. You can grab files from beta1 iso or I can make pet if you wish.

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 17:51**

dejan555 wrote:Terryphi, for saving stuff and customizing use the regular firefox session. When I started safe browser it had several messages on start that cannot install some items because of rdf not found (I guess addons?)

Yes, I saw message:

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Malformed file
Firefox could not install this item because "install.rdf" (provided by the item) is not well-formed or does not exist. Please contact the author about this problem.

This is probably because an add-on has not been properly installed. Maybe the Default theme add-on which is reported as newly installed when browser is opened?

There is also the very irritating dialog asking if you want to make it the default browser on startup.

It must be possible to customise it. Where are the files stored? I haven't had time to look yet.

Anyway, my point is that Dpup Safe Browser needs some work!

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 18:02**

As gposil explained everything is saved in tmp then erased on exit and runs as different user as you can see from start script:

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#!/bin/sh
cp -f /root/.gtkrc-2.0 /tmp/.gtkrc-2.0
su nobody -c defaultbrowser
#exit cleanup
rm -f -r /tmp/.mozilla &&
rm -f -r /tmp/.macromedia &&
rm -f -r /tmp/.adobe &&
rm -f /tmp/.gtkrc-2.0
exit

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 18:08**

If you really want to customize I guess you could make changes then backup /tmp/.mozilla to different location, then adjust script to copy it back on every browser startup. But not saving anything is actually what it's supposed to do, that's the idea.

EDIT: gposil, is this nobody user configured same as in other puppies, 'cause it could be used elsewhere too. Also, what if someone's "defaultbrowser" is opera? /tmp/.mozilla will not be created, but /tmp/.opera

Either make it run ff/seamonkey only either add some cleanups for other possible browsers if you want to stick with "defaultbrowser"

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 18:17**

dejan555:
I applied the iso.delta to the beta1 (maybe that made it a beta2) before testing gprs.

A pet would be nice

JorgenS

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 18:23**

I am booting with a fresh frugal installation of dpup484b2 with a pup-save file created by dpup-484b1. The following additional software is installed:
gnome-games-Lite_i486-dpup
bibletime-2.4.1-i686-dpup
pwidgets-2.2.1
gimp-2-6-8-i686-dpup
thunderbird-3.0
Upon bootup an error message “Wpa-supplicant failed to start

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 18:29**

Okay this should have all pgprs files,report if you have any issues

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 19:13**

I burnt Dpup 484 beta2 to a CD , open session, and booted it from my laptop.
To get it to boot fully, I had to add "pci=noacpi" as a parameter.
I set up a few things and used pwireless2 to connect to my wireless router.
When I selected reboot, I was prompted to save settings.
I selected "Save to CD".
I had about 4 messages saying insert cd and press return.
I did this with the burnt cd and when the laptop rebooted, it failed to boot from the CD and reverted to GRUB on the hard drive.
I went ahead and booted another version of puppy from the hard drive and mounted the CD to check it.
My settings had been saved in a folder, but in saving those settings to CD, it evidently messed something up to where the CD was not recognized as bootable.
Also, Streamit video streaming, when selected the first time crashed X and I was taken to the command prompt.
I restarted X and with Firefox open, the crash to the command prompt did not occur.
When playing a video on Youtube, the full screen button they suppy worked to get full screen, but my PC was very slow to respond to geting back to a windowed view of the video.
Networked printers on my main computer showed up without having to set them up also.

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 19:23**

Dejan555:
No problems now. I am writing this on Dpup 484beta2 on a gprs connection (3G-modem). Thanks a lot

Gposil:
Firefox startup-page is "google.com.au"

JorgenS

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 21:23**

Having problems with my wireless connection, it keeps dropping. That Pwireless2 is certainly busy. Didn't have the problem with beta 1, is there something I need to do from within Pwireless2 to keep the connection persistent?

Otherwise all good, got it set up in under an hour this time!

Edit: Wireless hasn't dropped since posting the above. I don't know what happened, to quote the Simpsons, "a wizard did it".

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 22:14**

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 9fa8b9633a

just wanted to let you know i was not able to automatically open wmv files in dpup.

is there a default application installed that will open pps (powerpoint) files? or do i have to use an open office sfs? i want to put dpup on my dads computer and he sometimes gets forwards of pps files that he wants to read.

i think i had trouble with wmx files also.
http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/wmx
thanks.

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 22:58**

is there a default application installed that will open pps (powerpoint) files? or do i have to use an open office sfs? i want to put dpup on my dads computer and he sometimes gets forwards of pps files that he wants to read.

Do a search for TonicPoint on the forum.
It requires java, but it is a viewer for powerpoint files.
I do not think it has audio though.
It is more of a slide viewer.

Posted: **Sun 03 Jan 2010, 23:37**

thanks 8-bit but i am looking for something that my dad can figure out. i could install java and tonicpoint on his computer but he still wouldn't know how to save the file and then open it. i'm looking for something that is automatically associated and he can just select open with default application and he can see it. i'm sure i could set all this up for him but i'm just seeing if there is some application that can handle these files for him and others with no computer knowledge and an old computer that windows is just not good on.

Posted: **Mon 04 Jan 2010, 03:02**

gposil wrote:aarf,

There is something seriously wrong with your opera install the memory size and virtual memory usage are completely wrong...not even within 20Mb of correct usage...something is missing, could be a Qt library...hard to tell without doing a trace...suffice to say, it has nothing to do with Dpup...

Michalis has identified the cause of the opera crashing problem to be in the symlinking. fixing details at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 112#377815
but it may point to a wider symlinking problem in dpup or puppy that may need to be explored by people with knowledge in the symlinking area.

Posted: **Mon 04 Jan 2010, 03:32**

Ok guys, what patches do I have to get done....I've already got dejan555's pgprs fixes...

Posted: **Mon 04 Jan 2010, 03:42**

dejan555 wrote:If you really want to customize I guess you could make changes then backup /tmp/.mozilla to different location, then adjust script to copy it back on every browser startup. But not saving anything is actually what it's supposed to do, that's the idea.

EDIT: gposil, is this nobody user configured same as in other puppies, 'cause it could be used elsewhere too. Also, what if someone's "defaultbrowser" is opera? /tmp/.mozilla will not be created, but /tmp/.opera Either make it run ff/seamonkey only either add some cleanups for other possible browsers if you want to stick with "defaultbrowser"

Correct dejan, the whole idea behind SafeBrowse is that it saves nothing...Yes the "nobody" account is the same as other Puppies...Dpup also uses it to run it's Xscreensaver...it is also useful for apps that do not want root user. I will fix the SafeBrowse startup messages...but as far as saving, it defeats the purpose of the idea.

Cheers
Guy

Posted: **Mon 04 Jan 2010, 04:26**

I did a fresh full install of Beta 2 earlier and have two little difficulties. First, the PPM will not update the package database lists, the download window opens and as soon as "enter" is pressed it disappears immediately with no downloading.

Second, it appears that the Safebrowser is not clearing the history on reboot.....I can do it manually so not really a problem.It appears to be clearing everything else though.

No other problems, still can install deb packages with the PPM and things appear to be running smoothly. No one else has mentioned the updating problem but I hope I don't have a problem with my new install.....

Posted: **Mon 04 Jan 2010, 06:31**

Concerning SafeBrowser, it is removing everything except there are history items hiding somewhere that won't go away. I can manually remove the history and immediately reboot or just restart the browser and the same items return.See screenie.

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