Unnamed puplet 1.1 (puppy411 kernel-2.6.28.5 Xorg-7.4 LXDE)

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CavedOOde · #101 Post by **CavedOOde** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 10:10

Hellos, great pup and one that has smp enabled (others then NYP and thisone won't run on my laptop Compaq CQ60)

I found some kind of bug with it. I have installed Nvidia drivers wich work perfect, but now i wanted to edit the conky config somewhat to add batterry and stuff when i notice that my bottom bar had vanished and i don't seem to be able to get it back. any pointers? thx in advance.

Another thing is i wanted to use compiz, what exacly do i install ? i got 3d running on this machine just fine. Does compiz run with this LXDE ?

Caved

#102 Post by MU » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 12:18

CavedOOde,
you have no smp with NYP?
This is strange, because it uses the sam kernel

i wanted to edit the conky config somewhat to add batterry and stuff when i notice that my bottom bar had vanished and i don't seem to be able to get it back. any pointers?

What bar?
The scond CPU-bar?
Here is example code for up to 4 cpu bars:

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CPU 1: ${cpu cpu1}%
${color lightgray}${cpubar cpu1 7,168}$color
${if_existing /proc/acpi/processor/CPU1/info}CPU 2: ${cpu cpu2}%
${color lightgray}${cpubar cpu2 7,168}$color $endif ${if_existing /proc/acpi/processor/P002/info}CPU 2: ${cpu cpu2}%
${color lightgray}${cpubar cpu2 7,168}$color $endif
${if_existing /proc/acpi/processor/CPU3/info}CPU 3: ${cpu cpu3}%
${color lightgray}${cpubar cpu3 7,168}$color $endif ${if_existing /proc/acpi/processor/P003/info}CPU 3: ${cpu cpu3}%
${color lightgray}${cpubar cpu3 7,168}$color $endif
${if_existing /proc/acpi/processor/CPU4/info}CPU 4: ${cpu cpu4}%
${color lightgray}${cpubar cpu4 7,168}$color $endif ${if_existing /proc/acpi/processor/P004/info}CPU 4: ${cpu cpu4}%
${color lightgray}${cpubar cpu4 7,168}$color $endif

Compiz:
http://puppyisos.org/wow/compiz-fusion/unnamed-pup/
user: puppy, password: linux

Mark

CavedOOde · #103 Post by **CavedOOde** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 14:02

Hallos MU, thx for the quick reply but you don't understand what i meant.

NYP, Unnamed and puppy 4.2 SMP are the only pups that run on the machine.

It is not the CPU bars in Conky that dissapeared (i can configure conky).
It is the bottom bar of the screen (the one with the pager on it, lxpanel or what issit?) that dissapears after i install NVIDIA drivers, and i can't get it back.

Thanks for the link to compiz, i will look into it after i resolve the bottom bar issue...
Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Caved

#104 Post by MU » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 14:13

does the problem with the bottom panel persist, if you change the screenresolution in the nvidia settings program (it is in the menu) ?

Mark

CavedOOde · #105 Post by **CavedOOde** » Sun 26 Apr 2009, 16:10

Hey MU, like most widescreen laptops there is really only 1 decent screen res to use, the compaq CQ60 is no different in this regard so i really don't want to fiddle with that.

I just created a new toolbar and then put a pager and taskbar onit, and it seems to do the job. I am going to apply now some patches as described in this forum and then have a go with Compiz, when i finish that i am thinking of remastering it for safe keeping.

Thanks again for your help

greetz
Caved

bigbeck · #106 Post by **bigbeck** » Mon 27 Apr 2009, 00:21

CavedOOde wrote: NYP, Unnamed and puppy 4.2 SMP are the only pups that run on the machine.

G_Pup will also work on the Compaq CQ-60. It works on mine.

Don

#107 Post by MU » Mon 27 Apr 2009, 20:39

Some people disturbed, that the network card is assigned to "eth1".
It seems, this can be easily solved.

Edit:
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

Comment the two entries there with a "#", like this:

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# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:e0:4d:4c:26:f1", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"

# PCI device 0x10de:0x054c (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:1e:90:4a:40:c2", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1"

After a reboot, the file looks like this:

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# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:e0:4d:4c:26:f1", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"

# PCI device 0x10de:0x054c (forcedeth)
#SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:1e:90:4a:40:c2", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth1"

# PCI device 0x10de:0x054c (forcedeth)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:1e:90:4a:40:c2", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"

The original file in the puplet has just one line:

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# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:e0:4d:4c:26:f1", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"

I will comment this line in the next Newyearspup, so eth0 should be set as default.

Mark

legendofthor · #108 Post by **legendofthor** » Sat 02 May 2009, 05:57

G'day,
Incredible job Mark - I am astonished that you seem to have surpassed the larger distros for cutting edge...

Just wondering though.....
A friend has an ati crossfire system (two graphics cards) - would the ati drivers in NYP activate 3d rendering for this system - or am I asking too much?

If it does we then have another linux and puppy convert.

Cheers
Martin

gabe · #109 Post by **gabe** » Sun 03 May 2009, 05:49

@MU:
Sorry if I didn't pick this up from the previous 8 pages, but exactly what versions of Puppy will these drivers (your .pets) work on? I've heard talk about Unnamed puplet, NYP, and even SMP4.2. Does it work on all of these? How about stock 4.2?

As much as I long for elimination of video tearing (which I believe graphics cards will do), I don't want to downgrade to the Puppy4.1x series since it has some problems and general lack of aesthetic appeal.

So where will your drivers work? Is it tied to a specific kernel?

Sage · #110 Post by **Sage** » Sun 03 May 2009, 07:40

eth1/eth0 - thanks, Mark. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened quite like that. I had to edit in the third paragraph. That was OK and the network setter then showed eth0 and it worked. However, the 'mounting drives' message had now become persistent until I deleted the error message mentioned elsewhere.
Then Google Earth stopped working - it appeared to start loading, but the rotating arrow stopped with no app loaded (same from CLI).
I tried to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
back to its original state. It saved OK, but, upon reboot, the edited version had returned with the extra portion and eth0 default. Tried to edit it several more times - no go.
Google Earth still not working - eth0 still default.
Seems I've broken something!

And just to add insult, network settings still refuse to save???

#111 Post by MU » Sun 03 May 2009, 07:43

gabe,
the kernel related drivers like virtalbox or graficscarddrivers work only for the kernel they were compiled for.

puppy411 kernel-2.6.28.5 Xorg-7.4 LXDE and the latest newyearspups use the same Kernel, so the pets work in both.
They do not work in Standard Puppy.

Also several other pets will not work in Standard Puppy, those that contain applications based on Gtk2.

Puppy uses an oldr version, where not all dependencies are available, like libgio.

So only few pets/sfs will work in a Standard Puppy, for example Java.

Mark

Sage · #112 Post by **Sage** » Sun 03 May 2009, 08:43

above edit, Mark!

#113 Post by MU » Sun 03 May 2009, 09:41

editing the rules requires to reboot, or it also might work to type:
/etc/rc.d/rc.udev stop
/etc/rc.d/rc.udev reload
/etc/rc.d/rc.udev start

or:

/etc/rc.d/rc.udev stop
/etc/rc.d/rc.udev force-reload
/etc/rc.d/rc.udev start

The original file looks like this:

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# PCI device 0x10ec:0x8168 (r8169)
SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:e0:4d:4c:26:f1", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0"

This asigns eth0 to that specific mac adress. I just can suspect where it comes from, it might be a setting from wows computer.
As consequence, all other detected cards get a higher number like eth1.

By commenting it, my computer now uses eth0 after a reboot, and I had not problems so far.
So I can give no further clues.
If you encounter problems, type:
dmesg
Maybe there errors show up.
Mark

gabe · #114 Post by **gabe** » Sun 03 May 2009, 16:46

MU wrote:graficscarddrivers work only for the kernel they were compiled for. ... They do not work in Standard Puppy.

Forgive me, I'm trying to understand. If the graficscarddrivers only work with these two unofficial puplets, then how would it be possible to get my graphics card to work for normal Puppy (or newer Puppy like the 4.2 SMP or 4.21)?

Also, you say that "they only work for the kernel they were compiled for"--does this mean they won't work on newer kernels either? (like 2.6.29.1, which all the new Puppy stuff like 4.21 is going to be based on?). Again, forgive me, but this doesn't seem to make any sense to me that they'd work on one kernel and not on older or newer ones.

Why wouldn't they work? Is it linux's fault?
Is there a way to convert the .pet? Or would you be forced to do (a lot of) extra work just to make it work on these different "kernels"?

All I want to do is play video without tearing...

#115 Post by MU » Sun 03 May 2009, 17:26

Gabe,
Please:
what card?
What driver?

you can of course compile drivers for other kernels.
Just the binary pets will not work.
Also ultrapup uses a newer xorg than Puppy, so the pets for graficsdrivers are not compatible.
But there are pets for Puppy, like Ati/Nvidia.

More details please:
what card do you have
What Puppy (exactly, e.g. kernelversion) do you want to use...
Mark

battleshooter · #116 Post by **battleshooter** » Mon 25 May 2009, 07:43

Hi everyone,

I'm having a noobie moment and can't figure out how to get back the bar at the bottom of the screen that shows what programs you've got open.

I got rid of it (at least so I think) while playing round with the "Openbox Configuration Manager". I was trying to figure how to get windows to not overlap with the top bar and bottom bar. Excuse the bad terminology, don't know what either are called

Thanks

Battleshooter

#117 Post by MU » Mon 25 May 2009, 09:50

right click the top bar, then choose "add new panel".
Then right click the new one to add things like a taskbar.

Mark

battleshooter · #118 Post by **battleshooter** » Mon 25 May 2009, 10:09

Yes!

Thanks Mark! You've no idea how annoying it wass getting with it missing...

Thanks again

Battleshooter

Master_wrong · #119 Post by **Master_wrong** » Sun 31 May 2009, 01:41

@wow
I cannot find

Patched kernel source SFS:
[kernel-src-2.6.28.5patched.zip] sfs and md5sum inside, packed with SquashFS-LZMA-3.4

Master_wrong · #120 Post by **Master_wrong** » Sun 31 May 2009, 02:06

without patch, I can use pmount to mount ntfs patition so it also open in pcmanfm,

so is anyone can help me on instruction how to automount all partition with pmount everytime i boot up ?

thank you

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