Quirky Xerus 8.1.4 for Raspberry Pi2 and 3

[TeX Dog]

I am walking back the need to load into RAM, doesn't seem that is occurring with the other RPi OS looks like it does some method like shrinking drive to release space etc. Looks like I made the suggestion a day or two late. Do not forget to edit this main thread title, still 8.1.3.1 for me.

[TIW]

Thank you every body for you advice.
@ Barry. I have read the new "newbie friendly" install page and will give it a go tonight.
Will let you know what is going to happen. Thanks again.

[TIW]

Hi Barry. I took your advice reading the “Newbie “ Notes.

To find out the correct SD Card name the Console output was :
# probedisk
/dev/mmcb1k0|card|MMC/SD : SL32G

# probepart
/dev/mmcb1k0p1|vfat|60749824

New try to install quirky 8.1.4 to my SD Card
# unxz –stdout quirky-sd-8gb-xerus-8.1.4.img.xz | dd of=/dev/mmcb1k0 bs=4M

The output was
Personal Storage space is getting full
dd: writing dev/mmcb1k0': No space left on device
0+142271 records in
0+142270 records out
1236582400 bytes (1.2 GB) copied, 22.6561 s, 54.6 MB/s

So I increased precicesave-4fs by 512 MB to 3584 M and tried again

Same problem of “No space left on device

[TeX Dog]

space or issues with leading / in:

unxz –stdout quirky-sd-8gb-xerus-8.1.4.img.xz | dd of=/dev/mmcb1k0 bs=4M

no spaces from of till before bs=4M


computer thinks you want a file called dev/mm....

not the device /dev

[TeX Dog]

Also a little cut/paste info which you may find helpful. Starting at End of Line of Text Press&Hold Left mouse button and have it highlight text. When at the beginning of selected text release Left button and press right mouse button for menu, select copy or cut - if you want to delete something from the Internet [ just kidding either one will work ]
Open terminal and press center button.. what no center button the scroll wheel between left and right is also a button press it, or if you are good mashing both left and right buttons at exactly same time it acts like a middle button.

[BarryK]

[quote="TIW"]Hi Barry. I took your advice reading the “Newbie “ Notes.

To find out the correct SD Card name the Console output was :
# probedisk
/dev/mmcb1k0|card|MMC/SD : SL32G

# probepart
/dev/mmcb1k0p1|vfat|60749824

New try to install quirky 8.1.4 to my SD Card
# unxz –stdout quirky-sd-8gb-xerus-8.1.4.img.xz | dd of=/dev/mmcb1k0 bs=4M

The output was
Personal Storage space is getting full
dd: writing dev/mmcb1k0': No space left on device
0+142271 records in
0+142270 records out
1236582400 bytes (1.2 GB) copied, 22.6561 s, 54.6 MB/s

So I increased precicesave-4fs by 512 MB to 3584 M and tried again

Same problem of “No space left on device

[TeX Dog]

It's a 32G sdcard he should be good once the typos are corrected. @BK looks like I will NOT be asking Santa for one of those baby laptops after reading your Blog...
If you can bring back the seagull and make a water theme for next release series 8.2.0 ( sounds like H.2.O ) if you are going to bump up for the T2 release.
This should be my last post for a while < stop cheering, geesh! > got to clear out computer room for massive family visit.

[BarryK]

I also have a question in regard to the console ( urxvt ) .
Why is it not possible to copy or paste writings in there ?

Yes, as Tex Dog posted.

It is easy, once you know how.

Any text that you highlight goes into a special buffer, which can be pasted by clicking the middle button on the mouse.

If your mouse has a scroll-wheel, that usually also is a button, just press it.

Easy to try it. In one window, say in this browser, drag over any text to highlight it. Then, anywhere else, just click the middle button to paste.

...of course, be careful what you paste into a terminal window.

To play with the concept, you could open the text editor, and test pasting into there.

This is a separate mechanism to the clipboard, where you use ctrl-c, ctrl-v. The urxvt doesn't understand ctrl-v, however, if you put something into the clipboard, the middle button click should be able to paste it.

...well, I think so. Sorted this out in Puppy years ago. Just tried it, yes, it does still work. Highlight any word, then ctrl-c to clipboard. Un-highlight the word. Do middle-click in the terminal, yep, the word gets pasted.

[BarryK]

It's a 32G sdcard he should be good once the typos are corrected. @BK looks like I will NOT be asking Santa for one of those baby laptops after reading your Blog...
If you can bring back the seagull and make a water theme for next release series 8.2.0 ( sounds like H.2.O ) if you are going to bump up for the T2 release.
This should be my last post for a while < stop cheering, geesh! > got to clear out computer room for massive family visit.

Oh, I see. TIW put in spaces where they shouldn't be, so "dd" wrote into his save-file instead of to the sd-card!
No wonder he ran out of space, would have needed 8GB free space.

Yeah, the Asus E200HA is a lovely little laptop, and quite cheap.
I did see a post somewhere that the 4.10 kernel might have some compatibility fixes -- I don't know if they were just dreaming.

[TIW]

@ Barry
‎I have succeeded to install quirky xerus 8.1.2 on to my SDCard. The terminal command I used was :
‎# unxz --stdout quirky-

[TIW]

@ TeX Dog

Console Copy & Paste
Also a little cut/paste info which you may find helpful. Starting at End of Line of Text Press&Hold Left mouse button and have it highlight text. When at the beginning of selected text release Left button and press right mouse button for menu, select copy or cut - if you want to delete something from the Internet [ just kidding either one will work ]
Open terminal and press center button.. what no center button the scroll wheel between left and right is also a button press it, or if you are good mashing both left and right buttons at exactly same time it acts like a middle button.

Thank you for your tutorial.
No, I don’t have a center Button or center wheel.
Yes, I can highlight a sentence, copy it and past it to the terminal by pressing both, r+l mouse together.
Unfortunately the opposite is not possible.
Still some progress.

[Sage]

Will xerus 8.1.2. only boot on a Rasberry ?

Yes! or even a RaspberryPi.

[Sage]

Just getting back to the RPi 3. Power up via GPIO 4 & 6. Small - very quiet - 5V fan + small heatsink (the tall one is too clumsy for such a small unit), mounted in free air (as per instructions!). QuirkyX 8.1.4. Steady T=36.48C; sounds about right to me.
If you've put it in a box, recommend removing it (see leaflet provided).
If you haven't fitted an heatsink, - sine qua non.
Once you've got the board screwed down to a piece of chipboard*, fit a tiny 5V fan on one edge to blow across the assembly (GPIO 2 & 14).
This WORKS - don't accept substitutes unless you want to limit the life of your Pi !

*use stand-off insulators, this will allow breeze to cool the underside as well!

[BarryK]

[quote="TIW"]@ Barry
‎I have succeeded to install quirky xerus 8.1.2 on to my SDCard. The terminal command I used was :
‎# unxz --stdout quirky-

[pakt]

Just getting back to the RPi 3. Power up via GPIO 4 & 6. Small - very quiet - 5V fan + small heatsink (the tall one is too clumsy for such a small unit), mounted in free air (as per instructions!). QuirkyX 8.1.4. Steady T=36.48C; sounds about right to me.
If you've put it in a box, recommend removing it (see leaflet provided).
If you haven't fitted an heatsink, - sine qua non.
Once you've got the board screwed down to a piece of chipboard*, fit a tiny 5V fan on one edge to blow across the assembly (GPIO 2 & 14).
This WORKS - don't accept substitutes unless you want to limit the life of your Pi !

*use stand-off insulators, this will allow breeze to cool the underside as well!

Sage, no doubt what you say works.

However, if you're going to quote temperatures, you'll have to be a little more precis and let the rest of us know under what conditions you get a "Steady T=36.48C".

When you make that temperature measurement, are you running the "powersave" or "performance" governor? Putting the CPU under load or just letting it idle?

Oh, and regarding the warning about not enclosing the Pi3 in a case, isn't it odd then that the Raspberry Pi Foundation has an official case for this model?

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/developme ... s/9098132/

http://cpc.farnell.com/raspberry-pi/ras ... dp/SC14016

[ally]

I have a pi3 running openmediavault which got a little warm using that case during the summer, removed the lid and all was fine, no heatsinks

[TIW]

I am sorry guys. Will not bother you again.

[Sage]

You are correct, pakt. Poor word choice - rattled off between tasks!
I should've said 'IDLE'. Temperatures rose a couple of degrees, ~41C under load/wkg, as expected. No idea what other mode - it was 'as supplied',booted, run, no attempts to 'tune' so it may be possible to lower the temp. further.
Am I surprised that there's an 'official' Pi case - not a bit, that's capitalism. Have you looked through the vast range of expensive 'official' add-ons for Pi ?! They didn't design the chip architecture - ARM did that, and they provide you with a leaflet which clearly states not to enclose their chip. Now who do you want to believe? When it comes to SW, I know nuffin', when it comes to the mechanics and electrics, just follow my simple, cheap and effective guidance - it works AND is compliant with the manufacturer's intentions.
Sticking stuff in cases against recommendations to make it look tidy/pretty is just dumb. RTFM.

[BarryK]

I am sorry guys. Will not bother you again.

Didn't mean to be rude, but you have to think things through very carefully, and try to understand what an operation is doing, before doing it.

There is a learning curve with Linux, but once you have understood the basics, you will laugh at previous mistakes.

On this forum, there are developers, like myself, who work pretty intensely, and may have limited time for distractions. On the other hand, there are guys on this forum who are users and testers, who have plenty of time to respond to questions.

The main issue here is that this particular forum thread is for testing and development of Quirky on the Pi. There are other sections of the forum specifically for beginner questions, and that is the best place to go when you have really fundamental Linux usage questions.

[BarryK]

On the subject of "Linux fundamentals", the /etc/hosts file in Puppy and Quirky has, right from the beginning this in it:

Code: Select all

127.0.0.1 localhost puppypc15976
192.168.1.1 pc2
192.168.1.2 pc3
192.168.1.3 pc4

The original file actually does not have those "15976" characters. That is a random number, appended at first bootup by /etc/rc,d/rc.sysinit.

This gives a unique host name. This piece of code was contributed by 01micko.

Note, there is also a matching /etc/hostname:

Code: Select all

puppypc15976

Anyway, those last three lines, they have always been there, but what is the point of them? Why don't we just get rid of them?

They come from the original days of Puppy, right back at 2003, when I was thinking in terms of a local network with statically assigned IP addresses.