Slacko32/64 700 BETA 2

[Billtoo]

Ok, a manual frugal to a flash drive... what bootloader? USB stick or SD card?

Did you specify 'pmedia=usbflash' on the kernel line? It is _really_ needed now as searching has been cut down to improve boot speed (among other things).

I used the same 32gb flash drive on both computers.
I used grub4dos as the bootloader.

# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.9.2
color blue/cyan yellow/blue white/black cyan/black
#splashimage=/splash.xpm
timeout 10
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Puppy slacko64 6.9.6.4 (sdc1/slacko64-6964)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko64-6964/initrd.gz
kernel /slacko64-6964/vmlinuz psubdir=slacko64-6964 pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
initrd /slacko64-6964/initrd.gz
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On the first computer it would boot after unplugging the usb SSD, that worked for several reboots but after I plugged in a usb sound card it wouldn't boot again.
I got the same error as @escucha

[jlst]

Frugal install on usb sdd1 realises OK, writing from it now, but same frugal install on HD sda1 gives me rare error (both loaded with grubloader)

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Puppy slacko64 6.9.6.4 (sdc1/slacko64-6964)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko64-6964/initrd.gz
kernel /slacko64-6964/vmlinuz psubdir=slacko64-6964 pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
initrd /slacko64-6964/initrd.gz
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On the first computer it would boot after unplugging the usb SSD, that worked for several reboots but after I plugged in a usb sound card it wouldn't boot again.
I got the same error as @escucha

Add pdebug=y to your menu entry.. for example:

kernel /slacko64-6964/vmlinuz psubdir=slacko64-6964 pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck pdebug=y

Then once the error occurs, you can still use the keyboard right? Type

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debugsave

And follow the instructions, reboot with a working puppy and find the generated directory, create a tarball and attach it to your next message. This will help identify the problem...

[escucha]

To jlst,
These are the temp initrd contents.

[Sage]

32bit 6.9.6.4 iso - 2xd/l, 2xburns - sorry, won't boot.

[Billtoo]

And follow the instructions, reboot with a working puppy and find the generated directory, create a tarball and attach it to your next message. This will help identify the problem...

This is what I managed to get, hope it's okay.

[jlst]

To jlst,
These are the temp initrd contents.

Can you paste the menu entry that leads to the error? After reading the hints in bootinit.log i think the key might be in your menu entry. Also specify the exact location of your puppy files...

[jlst]

And follow the instructions, reboot with a working puppy and find the generated directory, create a tarball and attach it to your next message. This will help identify the problem...

This is what I managed to get, hope it's okay.

For some reason bootinit.log has the wrong info and even binary stuff at the beginning, strange..

[jlst]

32bit 6.9.6.4 iso - 2xd/l, 2xburns - sorry, won't boot.

Does a kernel panic happen or it just can't find the sfs files?

[Sailor Enceladus]

I still get stuck on "Loading kernel modules..." in 6.9.6.4 (described here), 01micko was too quick

[Sage]

Does a kernel panic happen or it just can't find the sfs files?

'Fraid not - it cannot find anything, not even a message. For the record, I swap burners and machines before using my trusty XP2400/2.5Gb test board which never fails when SW is kosher. Plugging CD into a Mint18 box brings up all the expected directories,so one or more would seem to be unwell?

[escucha]

Can you paste the menu entry that leads to the error? After reading the hints in bootinit.log i think the key might be in your menu entry. Also specify the exact location of your puppy files...

You're right!
There was a missing 'pfix=fsck' lack from automated grub4dos installer, so:

title Slacko64
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko64/initrd.gz
kernel /slacko64/vmlinuz psubdir=slacko64 pfix=fsck pkeys=es
initrd /slacko64/initrd.gz

is now runing from HD sda1... OK!!
Thanks for your help.

[tcan97]

Slacko 32-bit 6.9.6.4
Booted from cd and remastered manual frugal install.
There is no network connection after boot. I used SNS and a connection was made.

Computer:
Intel core2duo e4500
gigabyte motherboard with g33 chipset
integrated graphics
ethernet Real Tek RTL-8169

The r8169 module is loaded at boot time.

In another thread I described an issue with booting from a remastered cd. This issue is still present.

After a manual frugal install, booting from the cd will not work.

The cd begins to boot, but then booting occurs from the partition with the manual frugal install.
I can switch to another identical setup with manual frugal installs of other puppies and booting from the cd will then work.

[jlst]

You're right!
There was a missing 'pfix=fsck' lack from automated grub4dos installer, so:

Hmm i thought the problem was deeper than that. fsck triggers a filesystem check, it doesn't improve searching

I still get stuck on "Loading kernel modules..." in 6.9.6.4 (described here), 01micko was too quick

Try with this adrv. It's just an idea i had, it may or may not work..

[Sailor Enceladus]

Thanks jlst. Adding your adrv does fix the problem and it now boots to desktop.

Interestingly, replacing the fdrv with the one I posted here (and not including your adrv) also fixed the problem, and with this fdrv my wifi works as well, so it looks like the "Loading kernel modules" hanging problem has something to do with it trying to load the ipw2200 driver? In 6.9.6.1 it would just fail and keep going without wifi functionality, in 6.9.6.3+ it just hangs without it.

[James C]

Purely for testing purposes I just tried the latest 32 bit 6.9.6.4 live on this same hexa-core box. Did boot to a desktop but frozen mouse,no internet,incorrect resolution (1024x768),semi-working keyboard input, etc. so I aborted.

Will try later on a bit older box.

On the good side, 64 bit version seems to be working pretty well.

[James C]

Live test of Slacko 6.9.6.4 (same cd as above post) on on old dual-core. Booted straight to a desktop, correct 1440x900 resolution and working sound,internet and mouse, Same GPU as the hexa-core too by-the-way. No uefi/secure boot on this one.

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# inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: puppypc24478 Kernel: 3.14.78 i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.3.0)
           Desktop: JWM 2.3.2 dm: N/A Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.6.4
Machine:   Mobo: ASRock model: N68-S UCC
           Bios: American Megatrends v: P1.70 date: 03/03/2011
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 svm) bmips: 10854
           clock speeds: max: 2712 MHz 1: 2712 MHz 2: 2712 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           tty size: 80x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:05.0 chip-ID: 10de:03f0
           Card-2 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 02:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k3.14.78
Network:   Card: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet
           driver: forcedeth port: d480 bus-ID: 00:07.0 chip-ID: 10de:03ef
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
           mac: 00:25:22:61:55:fc
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1250.3GB (1.1% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: ST3250318AS size: 250.1GB serial: N/A
Partition: ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.49GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: swap-2 size: 6.40GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4
           No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
           Unused Devices: none
Sensors:   None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info:      Processes: 107 Uptime: 10 min Memory: 254.1/3542.8MB
           Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.461 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.3.0 

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# free
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
Mem:        3627804      223240     2746160      291996      658404     2912516
Swap:      14540792           0    14540792
# 

[Sage]

James' tests are most interesting. Therefore, I reloaded 6.9.6.3 on the same CD(-RW), with one of the same burners and run it (live) on the same benchtop XP2400.

Flawless!

Whatever is bent on 32bit 6.9.6.4 has to be serious and almost certainly not related to HW.
James: are you using a delta-ed ...4 based on ...3? Or are we d/l-ing from different servers? different times?

[Incidentally, said it before, it would be very helpful if everybody would edit their personal data to show at least the area of the planet on which they reside, for the straightforward reason that it's helpful to know the time zone we are working within.]

[gyro]

The following applies to frugal installs:
if boot fails because it can't find the puppy...sfs file, please ensure that the following boot parameters are specified:
pmedia=
pupsfs=
psubdir=
e.g. pmedia=atahd pupsfs=Linux psubdir=/puppy/tahrS

"pmedia" is really a flag.
If it's value is "cd" then searching through partitions for a save layer file is enabled.
If the first 3 chars is "usb" then only usb partitions are considered.
If the last 5 chars is "flash" then the pupmide=12 is changed to pupmode=13
If in doubt specify "pmedia=atahd"

"pupsfs" tells init which partition that contains the puppy...sfs file, and hence the default partition for all puppy system sfs files.
The example above uses the partitions Label (Linux) rather than it's name (sda4).
("pdev1" is an alias for "pupsfs")

"psubdir" specifies the subdirectory within the partition specified by "pupsfs".
Only needed if the frugal install is not in the root directory of the partition.

gyro

[gyro]

After a manual frugal install, booting from the cd will not work.

The cd begins to boot, but then booting occurs from the partition with the manual frugal install.

Yes, this is because the new "init" sees the frugal install as a cd boot with puppy sfs files copied to the hd.

A work around that should work is to place the frugal install in a subdirectory. The boot from cd should not find it there.

gyro

[James C]

James' tests are most interesting. Therefore, I reloaded 6.9.6.3 on the same CD(-RW), with one of the same burners and run it (live) on the same benchtop XP2400.

Flawless!

Whatever is bent on 32bit 6.9.6.4 has to be serious and almost certainly not related to HW.
James: are you using a delta-ed ...4 based on ...3? Or are we d/l-ing from different servers? different times?

[Incidentally, said it before, it would be very helpful if everybody would edit their personal data to show at least the area of the planet on which they reside, for the straightforward reason that it's helpful to know the time zone we are working within.]

Used a fresh full download of both versions direct from 01micko's link probably about an hour after he posted.