Is Alco effective as a painkiller?

[nooby]

I've only tested to drink Vodka once and had no pain
at that time so I have no clue. You guys know such things
so would be nice to hear some comments.

Suppose you measure subjective pain from 0 to 10
and suppose you have a pain on level 5 or higher.

It hurts so bad that you prefer to be still than to walk.
To lay flat instead up sitting straight.

Would a drink of say some 12 CC of Vodka
make that pain bearable so one can walk
to the store and buy food?

Or would the pain remain on level 5 but that one did not care
and walk anyway and buy the food? I am even more noob on alco
than on computers

[Barkin]

I've only tested to drink Vodka once and had no pain
It hurts so bad that you prefer to be still than to walk.
To lay flat instead of sitting straight.

Would a some 12 CC of Vodka make that pain bearable

IMO using alcohol as pain relief is a bad idea: a dose high enough to cause numbness is going to affect your coordination and wits too.

However 12 CC is only half the smallest pub measure of spirits you can get in the UK ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_spirits_measure
So I don't see that dose making any difference to an adult.
So on that occasion willpower was responsible for you tolerating the pain.

so one can walk to the store and buy food?

In the UK you can shop for groceries via the internet and have them delivered. The delivery charge is around £3 to £5 per delivery, which could consist of many items, (e.g. an entire weeks worth of groceries).
The delivery driver can even help you put the groceries into your cupboards & fridge if you have difficulty moving around...

Once you've placed your grocery order online there's a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes to get your shopping to you. We have a team of people who work to make this service possible, our personal shoppers who hand pick every item according to your instructions, our packers who carefully pack your products and our drivers who drive the groceries to your house and deliver direct to your door (even your fridge door if you like).

http://www.tesco.com/groceries/help/def ... y&rel=help

[Amgine]

Why use alcohol when there is a wonderful herb out there that dose not make you stupid, that dose not destroy your body, your family and your life, AND really dose help with pain.....


Alcohol is a very effective killer.

[amigo]

+1 Amgine. Nooby, please don't start drinking -it will cause you lots more misery than whatever bodily pains you are having. Try what Amgine suggested or try using Kinesiology tape.

[nooby]

Herb? That has to be Mint or Basilica

Guys I trust such is smoked and not taken as tea?
I am a non smoker have never began so a bit late now
to cough for hours Haha

[jpeps]

Why use alcohol when there is a wonderful herb out there that dose not make you stupid, that dose not destroy your body, your family and your life, AND really dose help with pain.....

Why have a doctor when there's the Puppy Linux Board

Pot doesn't work for many types of pain. My neighbor tried it..it didn't work at all. He's using prescribed morphine patches.

[Bert]

Hi Nooby,

Sure, the herb can be smoked (I used to do that regularly over 30 years ago )

But, there's also a medical use for it, often as an oil.

I have a family member who was a continuous pain patient. After just a few days of a small dose of oil drops, she could sleep normally again, do the daily duties and just could not believe the well-being that had returned in her life.

Look it up. The question if it's legal depends on the country you live in.
(but more and more doctors are recognizing its importance in the case of pain and difficult deseases)

Apart from pain killing, there have been some spectacular results with curing cancer (humans and animals)

We should not forget that before about 1914, this herb was one of the main ingredients in every pharmacy.
But big money and business have since declared a war...

[cthisbear]

" Apart from pain killing, there have been some spectacular results with curing cancer (humans and animals) "

Ever looked up Maple Syrup and Bicarb Soda.???

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lbakingsoda.htm

Chris.

[Barkin]

... Ever looked up Maple Syrup and Bicarb Soda.???

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lbakingsoda.htm

Chris.

Have you looked up Quackwatch.org ? ...

Every cancer patient and every health care practitioner should know that oral intake of sodium bicarbonate offers an instant and strong shift of blood pH into the alkaline ... Disclaimer ... The people responsible for this web site are not medical professionals.

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lbakingsoda.htm

...Taking calcium or drinking alkaline water does not affect blood acidity. Anyone who tells you that certain foods or supplements make your stomach or blood acidic does not understand nutrition ... Your bloodstream and organs control acidity in a very narrow range. Anything that changed acidity in your body would make you very sick and could even kill you. Promoters of these products claim that cancer cells cannot live in an alkaline environment and that is true, but neither can any of the other cells in your body ... If you hear someone say that your body is too acidic and you should use their product to make it more alkaline, you would be wise not to believe anything else the person tells you.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html

[nooby]

Thanks Bert and Thanks cthisbear and thanks Barkin

All of you care about me that is the important thing.
I don't have the knowledge Barkin have but do have
respect for Quackwatch. So I want to trust them too.

I am on Alvedon (Paracetamol) 2 x 665 mg morning noon and night.
8 o clock and 12 and 20 a clock.
And lo and behold whatever an opium derivate something named
oxikodonhydroklorid wich have Morfine like effect. 10 mg morning
and 10 mg night. Which seems not enough in the morning it hurts

So maybe I try to double that dose if the pain get worse.

Come on guys! If I only have three years to live. I would not
become dependent on alco is such short time would I????


It take many many years for those dependent to reach that state?
And if it has the effect it had last time that I tested it then it is wonderful drug


I had never felt that good in my whole 30 year plus life.

1. I felt totally accepted by life itself.
2. Nothing that I lacked in features had any importance anymore.
3. nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about or let down by.
4. I felt no need to get approved of by other human beings or even myself
5. Being totally accepted by life itself I felt satisfied with being alive.
6. It was the best experience that I've ever had felt so far.

Yes it was only 6CC and the effect only lasted some 15 minutes
with a peak some 5 minutes in the middle of the 15 minutes
and then slowly it left my body and I became again the whining
miserable complaining guy none want to be near ever

So don't undersell such a wonderful drug.

or my body did fool me it could ahve been a strong once in a life time
placebo boost that did the trick me trusting the text about the features
or Alco.

The surprising thing is that text says that some get talkative
from being silent and shy and distance they become very talkative
and come to close for comfort and want to be friend with everybody.

The effect on me was the opposite.

From being a sober very talkative going too close up for comfort
I just sat on a chair and life was wonderful as is no need to talk at all.

From feeling ashamed over my lack of Comouter savvy life was great
due to all the others who know code no need for me to be a Master of Code.

Alco is the thing. It is a wonderful drug Tongue in cheek.

And if one only use such super low doses as 6 CC then no hangups either.

[jpeps]

You're on two powerful pain medications, both of which warn that alcohol is contraindicated. So why are we having this discussion?

[Barkin]

... an opium derivate something named oxikodonhydroklorid wich have Morfine like effect.

You didn't mention you were taking opiate medication [oxycodone]. Mixing alcohol and opiates is a definite no-no ...

Do not use alcohol or medications that contain alcohol while you are receiving treatment with [Oxycodone]. This may increase nervous system side effects such as drowsiness, dizziness, lightheadedness, difficulty concentrating, and impairment in thinking and judgment. In severe cases, low blood pressure, respiratory distress, fainting, coma, or even death may occur. With certain long-acting formulations of narcotic pain medication, consumption of alcohol may also cause rapid release of the drug, resulting in high blood levels that may be potentially lethal.

http://www.drugs.com/food-interactions/oxycodone.html

If you are on sustained-release oxycodone, a tiny amount of alcohol could dissolve the coating of the tablets causing the drug to be released more rapidly into your bloodstream, causing a euphoric "high".

[nooby]

Ohhh Oups much appreciated you guys told me.

I had no idea it has such strong contra indications
most likely because they did not tell me due to me
asserted that I never use alco so no need to warn me.

And it is true but I come to think of future. I can not expect
them to write a prescription on opiates forever can I?

So this is supposed to be when I only have access to
Paracetamol and similar painkillers.

Good that you warned me. Now I have no alco at home
and I even fail to know where in the shop they put such
so no big risk I get some home by mistake.

Do you know that even plain vanilla milk for children has alco in it?

Yes extremely small amount indeed but it is there if one can measure
on that low level

[jpeps]

And it is true but I come to think of future. I can not expect
them to write a prescription on opiates forever can I?

It's a given, unless you find a cure (I think this is yet another question where you already know the answer).

[Amgine]

... Ever looked up Maple Syrup and Bicarb Soda.???

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lbakingsoda.htm

Chris.

Have you looked up Quackwatch.org ? ...

I would watch out for any main stream information you read. When money is involved people will lie lie lie..

There is a lot of truth to natural cures, but natural cures don't cost a lot of money and big pharma lose money.

I sure hope you do not put all of your faith into sites like Quackwatch.org or the like. There are natural cures for EVERYTHING.

[Amgine]

Anyone who is interested in reading about cancer cures do a search for "Essiac Tea" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Essiac+Tea&t=canonical

There is going to be a lot of sites trying to sell you the tea, "You can make your own for a lot less money"

[jpeps]

I would watch out for any main stream information you read. When money is involved people will lie lie lie..

There is a lot of truth to natural cures, but natural cures don't cost a lot of money and big pharma lose money

It's really up to you to do your own research. Then there's the issue of healthy lifestyles, that take personal discipline. When we have entire threads devoted to the joys of alcoholism on the board..you get the picture. Big pharm doesn't have to lie (people want pills for everything), although it might support biased research to the extent that it can get away with it. It takes anywhere from 2 to 15 billion $ to bring a pill to market, so they won't put R&D where there is no return.

[nooby]

Guys could we get back on topic .

Suppose the Doc had never put me on Morfin like Opiates
so pure as while Lily me had never had any such in my body.

Now. Does Alco help with pain it is it the attitude to the pain that change.

Does it hurt equally bad but using Alco I don't care or don't suffer the pain
because I am in a bliss that is to overwhelming to care about some pain?

Or does the Alco really make the pain less severe?

Skip all the Alternative med talk Start a new thread about
Herb and such. I am not into such in this thread and not outside of it either.

[Barkin]

Suppose the Doc had never put me on Morfin like Opiates
so pure as while Lily me had never had any such in my body.

If you weren't taking any medication a half a shot of vodka would not produce the euphoric "bliss" effect you described.

It's due to an interaction between the alcohol and the opiate medication.

Yes it was only 6CC and the effect only lasted some 15 minutes with a peak some 5 minutes in the middle of the 15 minutes and then slowly it left my body and I became again the whining miserable complaining guy

That the experience only lasted minutes then that's consistent with the alcohol causing the opiate medication to be released into your bloodstream more rapidly than usual. In the hours following this unusual rapid-release you would feel worse than usual because the levels of the opiate in your bloodstream would be less than normal.

You should not take any alcohol when taking opiate medication: they can combine / interact in ways which could be fatal.

[nooby]

Barkin my text must have been extremely misleading.

I am on opiate pain killer tablets now 2013
the alco bliss that I experienced once in my life
where way back in 1977 and I certainly where not
on any opiate then or any time before October 2013.

So let us go back to the topic. The opiates has left my body
the Docs give me no more and they have some ethical code
that forbid them to recommend Vodka so now I ask you guys.

Under these circumstances would I still feel unbearable pain
but alco make me not care life is good anyway with our without pain?

Or would the alco make me less sensitive to the pain?